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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:34 AM Nov 2019

The award for Best Impeachment Coverage goes to The New York Times -- here's why.



The New York Times’ website was must-see for one reason: running commentary from some of the sharpest reporters in the world. Next to testimony broadcast on the screen, White House and Washington correspondents from the Times such as Maggie Haberman, Emily Cochrane, Michael S. Schmidt, Nicholas Fandos, Annie Karni, Peter Baker and Charlie Savage (and others) offered quick-take commentary and perspective in real time.

Some of that was details that viewers wouldn’t know by just watching, such as when Cochrane wrote, “This is now Sean Patrick Maloney of New York, and just two Democrats will be left. Many of the members in the audience have left, but Mark Meadows, a key Trump ally, and Carolyn Maloney, who hopes to take permanent control of the Oversight committee, are among those still here.”

Another example is when Schmidt wrote, “Just a reminder: John Ratcliffe, the Republican who raised objections to (Rep. Adam) Schiff, was Trump’s pick to be the director of national intelligence – the same position that played a pivotal role in the whistle-blower’s complaint being held up before it was sent to Congress.”

But the commentary was at its very best when it was describing a detail or fact, or offering some context that perhaps readers weren’t familiar with, such as when Haberman wrote, “Mulvaney’s press conference in which he conceded there was a quid pro quo continues to be problematic for the president. It’s been raised a few times during this hearing, and was just now with (Rep. Eric) Swalwell to (George) Kent.”


https://www.poynter.org/newsletters/2019/the-award-for-best-impeachment-coverage-goes-to-the-new-york-times-heres-why/
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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
2. Their headline is pretty terrible this morning.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:45 AM
Nov 2019

They're doing a lot of damage to journalism and this country by giving weak headlines and articles to how serious things are. They also hired Ken Vogel.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
3. They didn't crash and burn like Jeff Mason of Reuters did...
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:46 AM
Nov 2019
https://www.mediaite.com/news/reuters-reporter-roasted-for-panning-lack-of-fireworks-quoting-eric-trump-in-impeachment-roundup-a-guided-tour-through-media-dysfunctions/

Reuters Reporter Roasted for Panning Lack of ‘Fireworks,’ Quoting Eric Trump in Impeachment Coverage: ‘A Guided Tour Through Media Dysfunctions’

The first day of impeachment hearings of President Donald Trump included hours of detailed, sworn testimony of his alleged misconduct and a stunning new revelation about his extortion efforts on Ukraine, but because the proceedings lacked “fireworks” and began “without a bang,” Reuters reporter Jeff Mason panned the historic moment as “dull” and quoted a tweet from the president’s own son, Eric, who unsurprisingly dismissed the hearings as “horribly boring.”

Mason’s arch, drama-critic review of the Congressional hearings ignited fast and fierce pushback from journalists and politicians alike, and his similarly cavalier tweet about the story was quickly called out by thousands of angry replies.




Mason, who is the former president of the White House Correspondents’ Association, fell victim to several journalistic bad habits, critics charged, from dueling-soundbites framing to clichéd “reality TV” analogies to a supposedly “savvy” meta-focus on the optics, instead of the substance, of the political moment.

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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
11. Mason's remarks created a LOT of comments in the Twitterverse
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:32 PM
Nov 2019


Maggie Haberman tends to be cautious about any negative stuff re: trump, people are often not happy with her remarks.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
4. Would not be beneficial, if all the commentators all 'got in line', like dumbass trumpers 'boring'.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 10:52 AM
Nov 2019

Some times the diversity is within one reporter. Yesterday someone was panning chuck todd. When I heard him on NBC Nightly News, a big audience then, was, [best as I remember], Todd said, the Democrats moved forward with important 'new information.'

Raftergirl

(1,285 posts)
5. There is nothing wrong with the NYT
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:06 AM
Nov 2019

headlines on the inquiry.

‘Behind a Star Witness, Democrats Take Their Impeachment Case to the Public’

‘Impeachment Hearings Open With Revelation on Trump’s Ukraine Pressure‘

The NYT isn’t Breitbart or Fox News.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
6. Oh, yes ... I really enjoyed when the Republicans wanted to put the
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:16 AM
Nov 2019

NYT’s piece of propaganda by Ken Vogel into the record

https://www.mediaite.com/news/nyts-ken-vogel-gets-dragged-for-pushing-debunked-joe-biden-ukraine-story/

But the allegations against Biden have been pretty thoroughly debunked, over and over again, and the story Vogel published in May — which says right in the title that it is being pushed out by ‘Trump and Allies’ — says “No evidence has surfaced that the former vice president intentionally tried to help his son by pressing for the prosecutor general’s dismissal.”

Vogel was lambasted on Twitter by users who saw this as a repeat of the newspaper’s focus on Trump-fed smears like the debunked Hillary Clinton “Uranium One” story.

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
13. I stopped my subscription to the NYTs
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 07:47 PM
Nov 2019

After I realized they were supplying weapons to both sides ...

The Judith Miller propaganda that propelled the Bush/Cheney lies ...

And the last straw was Ken Vogel’s propaganda piece ...

During the impeachment hearing yesterday, the republicans wanted that article put in the record ...

So, for me, that was their coverage ... they get to go in the records of Congress with their misinformation that they left up for 4 days after it was debunked...

That is my opinion... you are welcome to yours ...

Thanks for asking

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
14. So, your post doesn't have anything to do with the impeachment coverage by the NYT staff.
Fri Nov 15, 2019, 08:20 AM
Nov 2019

Or the Poynter article in the OP.

Thanks for answering.

blogslut

(37,999 posts)
9. cool
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:18 PM
Nov 2019

I'll probably stick with the journalists on my Twitter list, here @ DU and of course, the live stream from (preferably) C-Span.

The more the merrier. It's must-see TV, don'tcha know.

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