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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:11 PM Nov 2019

Very bad news. Menashi was confirmed by evil Republicans.

The American Bar Association said he was unqualified to be a judge. He's never tried a court case in his life. He doesn't believe women or minorities should have equal rights. He's involved in a criminal scandal related to DeVos.

And by a 51-41 vote (all Republicans but Collins voting in favor), he now sits on the 2nd Circuit of Appeals for life and has tilted the power of the court to Republicans.

Our Judiciary is completely destroyed for the rest of most of our lives.

I honestly do not believe America can be fixed at this point. I think this country will be an authoritarian dictatorship within the next few years.

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Very bad news. Menashi was confirmed by evil Republicans. (Original Post) OliverQ Nov 2019 OP
Sadly I agree. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #1
I concur DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #28
totally agree. n/t. okieinpain Nov 2019 #2
Ugh.... sakabatou Nov 2019 #3
God help us! lastlib Nov 2019 #4
Hear our bdamomma Nov 2019 #31
Q, terrible, but imo this "American can't be fixed" is useful idiot noise. Hortensis Nov 2019 #5
Voting won't remove Menashi from the bench!!! atreides1 Nov 2019 #7
No, but it will put people in office who WILL remove him. Hortensis Nov 2019 #11
+1000 sheshe2 Nov 2019 #16
No, judges are not removable in this era. It requires 67 Senators to remove a judge. OliverQ Nov 2019 #17
We'll see about that. Harker Nov 2019 #20
What part of being part of a majority who don't want this Hortensis Nov 2019 #36
See Alcee Hastings BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #40
Thank you! Silver1 Nov 2019 #32
He can be impeached. CaptainTruth Nov 2019 #25
Agreed on your comment and the point above about 50 years RT Atlanta Nov 2019 #30
In regards to the judicial crisis, there's review boards and other mechanisms of enforcement Dennis Donovan Nov 2019 #8
Such mechanisms apply only to outrageous personal or enough Nov 2019 #12
Well, I'm thinking a clown like Menashi would trip up sometime... Dennis Donovan Nov 2019 #22
There is a level of competence that even a judge must maintain.... Dan Nov 2019 #29
😫 Moscow Mitch is killing our democracy. Duppers Nov 2019 #6
Disgustingly posted on his feed a week ago today... gloating over it all.... JudyM Nov 2019 #10
Omg! Duppers Nov 2019 #18
They will confirm anyone with a pulse that Fat Nixon wants. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #9
Actually, he nominates anyone they want. NT enough Nov 2019 #14
This is grotesque. Trump got into the WH by illegal means and we put up with this shit. triron Nov 2019 #13
We've been watching "The Good Fight" CrispyQ Nov 2019 #15
Fuck Mcturtle. snort Nov 2019 #19
So should we just bow to Trump? Kingofalldems Nov 2019 #21
No bdamomma Nov 2019 #33
But at least some people can feel sanctimonious that they didn't vote for the lesser of two evils StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #23
McConnell wins. maxsolomon Nov 2019 #24
But Hillary gave a speech once, so surely all this is better? Eliot Rosewater Nov 2019 #26
Yeah there was supposed to be a revolution to fix everything. ismnotwasm Nov 2019 #39
Courts are the grand prize for the deep state. That's why Trump is still in office. Auggie Nov 2019 #27
McConnell bdamomma Nov 2019 #35
He too can be impeached, right? Perseus Nov 2019 #34
'Our Judiciary is completely destroyed for the rest of most of our lives.' Celerity Nov 2019 #37
"Our Judiciary is completely destroyed for the rest of most of our lives." - NOT YET. BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #38
Once the GOP has been crippled, there will be many ways to skin a cat. nt Progressive Jones Nov 2019 #41

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Q, terrible, but imo this "American can't be fixed" is useful idiot noise.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:16 PM
Nov 2019

Vote for Democrats to fix it. That's what's needed from all of us, not black-pilling others with inappropriate despair.

atreides1

(16,074 posts)
7. Voting won't remove Menashi from the bench!!!
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:21 PM
Nov 2019

It also won't remove the other unqualified judges that Trump nominated, and the Republicans rubber stamped!!!


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. No, but it will put people in office who WILL remove him.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:26 PM
Nov 2019

Judges are removable. Those who want to keep their jobs, and that's almost all, will do what they have to do to keep them.

Give them LIBERAL GOVERNMENT to fear and obey, and they'll toe the legal lines or be gone.

Btw, premature despair is...premature. This is hardly the first time good people have had to deal with corrupt and extremist judges. Means are built into the systems, have been from the very beginning and added to -- it's the power to use them we need.

VOTE DEMOCRAT TO FIX IT. TELL EVERYONE ELSE TO ALSO. For each of us, it's really that simple.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
17. No, judges are not removable in this era. It requires 67 Senators to remove a judge.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:42 PM
Nov 2019

That will never happen in modern America. There are not enough states Democrats can legitimately win Senate seats in to give them that many.

Harker

(14,012 posts)
20. We'll see about that.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 06:14 PM
Nov 2019

There's no telling what sea change might result from open hearings.

Even if it takes 50 years (and I'm 60 now) it's worth the fight.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. What part of being part of a majority who don't want this
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:57 PM
Nov 2019

is so hard to understand?

Anyone who can count senators can get the concept of how 67 senators get elected.

This stuff drives me crazy. Frankly, I have to respect our RW neighbors who vote religiously for very wrong things more than I do those who enable what they're doing by insisting there's no point in trying to stop them because we're doomed to lose. Two very different, very serious problems, but one is strong and determined and votes strength.

BumRushDaShow

(128,877 posts)
40. See Alcee Hastings
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:09 PM
Nov 2019
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Impeachment_Hastings.htm

He is currently a Congressman from Florida who is on the Rules Committee (who is now unfortunately undergoing an Ethics investigation - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142395394)

Judges can be removed but it depends on who that person is. Democrats briefly had 60 seats in the Senate (for about 4 months) in 2009. It would be a difficult thing to do to reach 67 (even if some were "moderate" GOP), but not unheard of.

Silver1

(721 posts)
32. Thank you!
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:14 PM
Nov 2019

This isn't the first or the last time we fight for a government worth having. Our turn may be here, and so be it!

RT Atlanta

(2,517 posts)
30. Agreed on your comment and the point above about 50 years
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:10 PM
Nov 2019

Let's play hardball presuming a big D tsunami win in elections next year.

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
8. In regards to the judicial crisis, there's review boards and other mechanisms of enforcement
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:21 PM
Nov 2019

IMO, judges may be lifetime appts, but there not impervious to review and, if necessary, prosecution.

enough

(13,256 posts)
12. Such mechanisms apply only to outrageous personal or
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:29 PM
Nov 2019

criminal offenses, not to ideologically biased jurisprudence. There is essentially no possibility that any of these judges will be removed from office before they decide to retire.

Dan

(3,551 posts)
29. There is a level of competence that even a judge must maintain....
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:09 PM
Nov 2019

I suspect too many judgements that get overturned might result in some type of review .

JudyM

(29,233 posts)
10. Disgustingly posted on his feed a week ago today... gloating over it all....
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:26 PM
Nov 2019




The nightmare of it... is only beginning...

triron

(21,999 posts)
13. This is grotesque. Trump got into the WH by illegal means and we put up with this shit.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:30 PM
Nov 2019

Something is very wrong with this.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
15. We've been watching "The Good Fight"
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:31 PM
Nov 2019

& if the way they portray some of these Trump judges is accurate,we are in a world of hurt. They are ignorant of court procedures to the point they can be easily manipulated by both sides.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
23. But at least some people can feel sanctimonious that they didn't vote for the lesser of two evils
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 06:31 PM
Nov 2019

So, no harm, no foul.

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
24. McConnell wins.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 06:44 PM
Nov 2019

Obstruction works.

I suggest Dems do the same at every opportunity. They started a war and we didn't want to fight.

Auggie

(31,167 posts)
27. Courts are the grand prize for the deep state. That's why Trump is still in office.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 07:47 PM
Nov 2019

Trump is the enabler. McConnell is the enforcer.

Celerity

(43,330 posts)
37. 'Our Judiciary is completely destroyed for the rest of most of our lives.'
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 09:10 PM
Nov 2019

Give Rump and the Rethugs 5 more years of loading it up and you have not see anything yet.

If they can take the SCOTUS to 7-2 or even 8-1 (Sotomayor has really bad diabetes, already requiring multiple hospitalisations) hardcore RW (and refresh Thomas' seat with a much younger RWer) and also keep on packing the lower tiers with RWNJ's, it will more than likely cause an eventual rending apart of the union itself, sometime before 2040. There is zero chance that the hard Blue states will continue to exist for decade after decade in a federally-mandated, nationwide-enforced radical RW theocracy.Think all civil rights (racially, gender, sexual orientation, etc etc) gained post-Brown v. Board (and probably Brown itself) reversed and NOT just devolved to the States, but dictated nationwide.

BumRushDaShow

(128,877 posts)
38. "Our Judiciary is completely destroyed for the rest of most of our lives." - NOT YET.
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:00 PM
Nov 2019

So far, Drumpf has had (per Wikipedia's count that they tabulated from here - https://www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/judicial-vacancies/current-judicial-vacancies) 162 judges (after 3 years).

At the end of Obama's 2 terms (remember he was in for 2 terms), he had appointed 329 - and that was with all the obstruction.

POLITICS 01/12/2017 07:00 am ET Updated Jan 12, 2017
How Barack Obama Transformed The Nation’s Courts
He filled two SCOTUS seats and made the judiciary more diverse than ever. But the GOP stopped him from doing more.

By Jennifer Bendery


Obama will leave office with 329 of his judicial nominees confirmed to lifetime posts on federal courts. That includes two U.S. Supreme Court justices and four judges on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, the two most powerful courts in the nation. Because of Obama, Democratic appointees now have a 7-4 advantage on the D.C. panel, and those judges will play a major role in deciding cases during the Trump administration related to environmental regulations, health care, national security, consumer protections and challenges to executive orders.

Obama also tilted the partisan makeup of circuit courts. Nine of the country’s 13 appeals courts now have majority Democratic appointees, compared with just one when he took office in 2009.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/barack-obama-judicial-legacy_us_586c1944e4b0de3a08f9eb1f


So what has changed now is that rather than 9 of the 13 Appeals courts being (D) and 4 (R), it's now 8 of them as (D) and 5 (R). Before Obama was elected, those Circuit courts were 12 (R) and 1 (D).

So if we can insure he doesn't get back in, we can cut this off at the pass.

I have had to post this over and over and over and over here on DU because of the unfortunate lack of this info being put out there and the continual whining that Obama and Democrats "did nothing".
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