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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHey, Trump-humpers!
Hope youre enjoying yet another school shooting, sponsored by the NRA and brought to you by your pResident and the Republican party! Dont forget to send your thanks to the WH and your GOP representatives, in appreciation of their unwavering dedication to NOT DOING A GOD-DAMNED THING about legislating sensible gun-control.
Now is the time to express your gratitude to Mitch McConnell, who has House-passed bills addressing gun-control measures sitting on his desk that he refuses to bring to a vote.
I hope all of your children are safe tonight. Sadly, there are parents all over the country that are still grieving the loss of their own sons and daughters. You might want to think about them and you might want to remember that they once sent their kids to school not knowing theyd never see them alive again.
JoeOtterbein
(7,699 posts)...worst!
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... having seen/heard Trump-humpers in action, its difficult to pinpoint which of them is the worst the gun-worshippers, the racists, the faux Christians, the too-dumb-to-tie-their-own-shoes crowd there are just so many to choose from.
llmart
(15,533 posts)they are all of those things wrapped up into one deplorable.
JoeOtterbein
(7,699 posts)...dangerous!
madamesilverspurs
(15,799 posts)brewens
(13,539 posts)Most likely just for his own safety.
I'd love it if someone would take him out hunting. We'd forget all about how idiotic Palin looked on her Alaska show hunt. I doubt anyone could talk him into it. Maybe he did some shooting at that military school he went to, but he's probably never touched a gun since.
world wide wally
(21,739 posts)jmowreader
(50,529 posts)Dictatorships like the one Putin and his BFF Trump want in this country are incompatible with gun ownership. Whats really sick is if Trump tells his followers they need to turn their guns in, a lot of them will do it.
czarjak
(11,254 posts)Dontchaknow?
Gothmog
(144,934 posts)catbyte
(34,337 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Federally, a 16 year old is prohibited from acquiring a handgun.
At the state level, safe storage is required.
(1)?The person keeps any loaded firearm within any premises that are under the person's custody or control.
(2)?The person knows or reasonably should know that a child is likely to gain access to the firearm without the permission of the child's parent or legal guardian, or that a person prohibited from possessing a firearm or deadly weapon pursuant to state or federal law is likely to gain access to the firearm.
(3)?The child obtains access to the firearm and thereby causes death or great bodily injury to the child or any other person, or the person prohibited from possessing a firearm or deadly weapon pursuant to state or federal law obtains access to the firearm and thereby causes death or great bodily injury to himself or herself or any other person.
(b)?Except as provided in Section 25105 , a person commits the crime of criminal storage of a firearm in the second degree if all of the following conditions are satisfied:
(1)?The person keeps any loaded firearm within any premises that are under the person's custody or control.
(2)?The person knows or reasonably should know that a child is likely to gain access to the firearm without the permission of the child's parent or legal guardian, or that a person prohibited from possessing a firearm or deadly weapon pursuant to state or federal law is likely to gain access to the firearm.
(3)?The child obtains access to the firearm and thereby causes injury, other than great bodily injury, to the child or any other person, or carries the firearm either to a public place or in violation of Section 417 , or the person prohibited from possessing a firearm or deadly weapon pursuant to state or federal law obtains access to the firearm and thereby causes injury, other than great bodily injury, to himself or herself or any other person, or carries the firearm either to a public place or in violation of Section 417 .
(c)?Except as provided in Section 25105 , a person commits the crime of criminal storage of a firearm in the third degree if the person keeps any loaded firearm within any premises that are under the person's custody or control and negligently stores or leaves a loaded firearm in a location where the person knows, or reasonably should know, that a child is likely to gain access to the firearm without the permission of the child's parent or legal guardian, unless reasonable action is taken by the person to secure the firearm against access by the child.
At the state level, there are universal background checks. They have had it since 1991. No unregulated private transfers. Not at gun shows. Not at flea markets. Not in the paper/classifieds. Not face to face for any reason. There is no legal means by which a handgun would be transferred to a minor in California.
California has waiting periods. They're irrelevant in this case, because a minor cannot legally acquire a handgun by any means, but California has a 10 day waiting period on handguns.
California enacted Red Flag gun laws in 2016, allowing family members and law enforcement to flag individuals for up to 5 years, and this year they expanded the eligible reporters list. (Gun Violence Restraining Orders)
It's not like this kid could have walked across the border into Nevada and avoided some of these laws because they are state and not federal. He's near LA.
California has already achieved (With federal overlap on age restrictions) what we're looking for here. The state exhibits model gun control legislation, most of which has been in place for years if not decades. As long as the US Population HAS ANY GUNS AT ALL, sometimes shit will happen. At least California has done all the prior restraint work to curtail it, and has tools to prosecute whoever enabled this kid to acquire a gun. It's awful that this happened, but there is never 100% efficacy of any legislation.
California has done good work here, it's the rest of the country at risk.
Initech
(100,040 posts)By telling them that their precious 2A rights are under attack in Louisiana. There is no bottom they won't sink to, no line they won't cross. God damn them.