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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Obama sent blankets; Trump sent Javelins!" He did, with a big catch...
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In 2018, the Trump administration authorized sales to Ukraine of a shoulder-fired anti-tank missile called the Javelin, reversing an Obama administration policy of supplying only non-lethal aid.
But there is a big catch. The Trump administration provided the missiles on the condition that they not be used in the war, Ukrainian officials and American diplomats have said, lest they provoke Russia to slip more powerful weaponry to the separatists.
They are not to be on the front line, Iryna Herashchenko, a former chief settlement negotiator, said of the missiles. Their precise deployment positions are kept secret.
So, Ukrainian soldiers at the front have improvised: They prop up the dummies of straw and extra uniforms that appear to hold the missiles, as a ruse, an army spokesman said.
Soldiers at Lieutenant Molchanetss position said the fake missiles are conjured from logs and empty ammunition boxes, roughly mimicking the silhouette of a Javelin.
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And Obama sent "non-lethal" equipment, things like trucks, body armor, medical supplies, infrared night scopes (certainly more than blankets!).
TheRealNorth
(9,478 posts)Attack Obama or Hillary.
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)the fandango?" With thanks to Freddy Mercury and Queen... Seems to me that the quote applies to tRUMP et al. Straw men were put to good use in the movie Oz The Great And Powerful. Hope it works as well in Ukraine!
louis-t
(23,292 posts)moondust
(19,972 posts)There were peace talks held and ceasefires signed at least in 2014 and 2015, possibly more. The Minsk agreements (link below) prohibited some types of weapons. Gets really complicated, way too complicated for stupid Republicans who want to reduce it all to a sound bite: "we're the good guys and they're the bad guys!"
Minsk Protocol
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Just the new Software on these Javelin's is so state of Art that if there was no fail safe in place,they could not be released.
doc03
(35,325 posts)taking military support from Ukraine? Did Trump give them aid because he wanted to or did Congress authorize it instead and he had to. Or am I wrong?