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The demise of the milk industry/dairy farming is sad and unsettling but I laughed simply at the (Original Post) sprinkleeninow Nov 2019 OP
Omg. I almost watched last night. That was hilarious Roland99 Nov 2019 #1
I had the teevee on for background 'noise' and 'company', but caught this and watched. sprinkleeninow Nov 2019 #2
--- sprinkleeninow Nov 2019 #4
It was also very well performed. nt tblue37 Nov 2019 #11
Why is the demise of the dairy industry Codeine Nov 2019 #3
Cows give milk. What's wrong with that. sprinkleeninow Nov 2019 #5
It depends. H2O Man Nov 2019 #6
My first cousin's maternal grandparents had a dairy farm two towns over from sprinkleeninow Nov 2019 #9
The conditions on factory dairy farms Codeine Nov 2019 #7
Yeah, people are shockingly ignorant of how milk is made. Coventina Nov 2019 #8
So now I'm ignorant. sprinkleeninow Nov 2019 #12
Old timey family farms, okay? sprinkleeninow Nov 2019 #10
You referred to the dairy industry. Codeine Nov 2019 #16
I posted in the middle of the bleary eyed nite. I made an error, okay? sprinkleeninow Nov 2019 #18
Fair enough. Codeine Nov 2019 #22
Many people don't realize that cows have to give birth in order to produce milk. StarryNite Nov 2019 #13
I know, I know. Ideally there would be/should have been paradise on earth. sprinkleeninow Nov 2019 #15
Yes! Most people don't realize how cruel it is. StarryNite Nov 2019 #14
What a fucking shame. Codeine Nov 2019 #17
I must've found myself living in a time warp of nostalgia. sprinkleeninow Nov 2019 #19
Thank you! StarryNite Nov 2019 #20
-- sprinkleeninow Nov 2019 #21
Oat milk is shockingly good. Codeine Nov 2019 #23
I haven't tried oat milk yet. StarryNite Nov 2019 #24

sprinkleeninow

(20,197 posts)
2. I had the teevee on for background 'noise' and 'company', but caught this and watched.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 03:51 PM
Nov 2019

Harry Styles is cute and has a lovely accent, but his 'music'? 😏

sprinkleeninow

(20,197 posts)
4. ---
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 03:58 PM
Nov 2019

I just watched it again myself .

"News flash: Someone drank soy milk and then joined ISIS."

The writers with this skit have hit it outta the ball park, no? 😆

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
3. Why is the demise of the dairy industry
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 03:58 PM
Nov 2019

“sad and unsettling”? It’s a disgusting and inhumane practice.

sprinkleeninow

(20,197 posts)
5. Cows give milk. What's wrong with that.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 04:00 PM
Nov 2019

Let me add: if it were up to me, I'd have animals for pets, companion and otherwise. Not for consumption.

The life of a cow. What should they be doing as a vocation?

H2O Man

(73,499 posts)
6. It depends.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 04:02 PM
Nov 2019

Family farms are usually good. Corporate farms aren't. It's sad that family farms are being put out of business.

sprinkleeninow

(20,197 posts)
9. My first cousin's maternal grandparents had a dairy farm two towns over from
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 04:14 PM
Nov 2019

us city slickers. We'd picnic there and I could hardly wait to go see the cows, venture into the fragrant barn, hug and smooch them. 😚

Yah, family farms. Things have been going to hell inna hand basket lots lately it appears.

Farming is expensive and laborious. Traditional farmers are having difficulties coming against them. But what about those who simply sell out for big $$. Their farmland is you know 'desirable'.

It's a vicious out there.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
7. The conditions on factory dairy farms
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 04:07 PM
Nov 2019

are revolting and cruel. Cows don’t “give” anything, we take milk from them after removing their young to be raised in even worse conditions and then killed.

“Give milk” my ass.

Coventina

(27,040 posts)
8. Yeah, people are shockingly ignorant of how milk is made.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 04:14 PM
Nov 2019

They apparently think that adult female cattle just make milk forever for no apparent reason.

Unlike every other mammal on earth, who only lactate when nursing their young.

sprinkleeninow

(20,197 posts)
10. Old timey family farms, okay?
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 04:18 PM
Nov 2019

Not your highlighted factory farms.

I shouldn't say Christ! but I just did.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
16. You referred to the dairy industry.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 04:30 PM
Nov 2019

Old-timey family farms (mostly gone now) do not represent said industry and aren’t producing any significant fraction of America’s milk product.

Cow milk is for baby cows, full stop.

sprinkleeninow

(20,197 posts)
18. I posted in the middle of the bleary eyed nite. I made an error, okay?
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 04:34 PM
Nov 2019

Yeah, I know, humans weren't meant to drink milk and consume 'dairy' products sourced from 'milk'.

StarryNite

(9,432 posts)
13. Many people don't realize that cows have to give birth in order to produce milk.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 04:23 PM
Nov 2019



Farming
Dairy’s ‘dirty secret’: it's still cheaper to kill male calves than to rear them
Dairy farms need female cows to produce milk but with little demand for male calves many farmers can’t afford to keep them beyond birth

"Dairy farms depend on female cows to produce milk, so when male calves are born, they are surplus to requirements and farmers are currently faced with few options.

They can immediately dispose of the calf, either by shooting it themselves or contracting a knackerman to do it [licensed slaughter business that will kill or collect dead farm animals]. They can sell the calf to be raised for veal or beef. Or they can sell the calf for live export. A few farms are experimenting with keeping the calves with the mothers for longer, but this is an expensive and rarely chosen option."

[link:https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/mar/26/dairy-dirty-secret-its-still-cheaper-to-kill-male-calves-than-to-rear-them|

sprinkleeninow

(20,197 posts)
15. I know, I know. Ideally there would be/should have been paradise on earth.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 04:29 PM
Nov 2019

But it ain't. Killings, death...

It's gotten outta hand.

It shouldn't be this way.

Then everyone, "stop consuming meat and dairy products".

StarryNite

(9,432 posts)
14. Yes! Most people don't realize how cruel it is.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 04:28 PM
Nov 2019

10 Dairy Facts the Industry Doesn’t Want You to Know
By Ashley Capps | July 30, 2014

A few excerpts...

4. Even so, virtually all dairy calves are stolen from their mothers within hours of birth in order to maximize profit. 97% of newborn dairy calves are forcibly removed from their mothers within the first 24 hours. (3) The rest are removed in a matter of days. On so-called humane dairy farms, cows are often taken within the first hour of birth as separation of mother and calf is considered less stressful when they have not been allowed to bond (see video clip below).


5. To keep them lactating at maximum yields, cows are artificially and repeatedly and forcibly impregnated year after year. The constant cycle of forced pregnancy and birth creates a huge surplus of calves.

9. Trapped in a cycle of forced impregnation, perpetual lactation and near constant confinement, most dairy cows’ overworked bodies begin producing less milk at around 4 to 5 years of age, at which point they are slaughtered. (6) In natural conditions, cows can live 20 to 25 years. (7)

10. Of the 9 million dairy cows in the U.S., 3 million are slaughtered each year at only a fraction of their natural lifespan. (8) Their worn out bodies become ground beef and restaurant hamburgers. (9)

[link:https://freefromharm.org/dairyfacts/|

sprinkleeninow

(20,197 posts)
19. I must've found myself living in a time warp of nostalgia.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 04:39 PM
Nov 2019

I appreciate your informative exchange.

I am using some coconut milk products lately.

I'll do my best! 💙

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
23. Oat milk is shockingly good.
Sun Nov 17, 2019, 04:59 PM
Nov 2019

My kids prefer almond milk but I’m really sold on oat milk; it’s very rich and creamy.

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