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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWALLACE Demolishes GOP Talking Point.
WALLACE: "A dozen people listened in on the phone call and a number of them were immediately upset..."
Steve Scalise: "Those were Schiff's witnesses."
WALLACE: "No, sir, they are career foreign service officers and these are people who worked in the Trump administration."
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blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)usaf-vet
(6,181 posts)They all have strayed from the Trump talking points. If they keep it up their days will be numbered.
Pink slips could be arriving soon.
luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)because they are newscasters. The idiots in prime time host "opinion" shows. So when anyone complains about "bias", the Murdochs can point to Wallace and Baier who provide the actual news.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)soldierant
(6,847 posts)However, as a legal expert, he talks about law, period. Any other hosts on at the time are all shocked, but not being lawyers, can't really dispute, and get over it an back to peddling lies as fast as they can. But this is something new for Wallace and even newer for Baier. Baier got twitter attacked like Tippi Hedren over his comment.I think he's the most vulnerable.
NotASurfer
(2,149 posts)Somebody to uphold the Tim Russert tradition of knowing facts and revealing ignorance, stupidity, and willing rejection of reality. I miss his ability to make an unprepared/ignorant politician or anybody regurgitating talking points look and sound reveal themselves in full, confused, sweating, squirming, embarrassed glory. And it was a wonderful thing to see the really good and capable people who actually did know what they were talking about. Political party didn't matter; if you knew what you were talking about, it showed, and if you were an idiot, you walked away looking like an idiot.
Could Wallace handle it?
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,833 posts)ananda
(28,858 posts)But I guess Chuck Todd is worse.
How many degrees of awful can we stand?
The bar seems to be set pretty high.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)DallasNE
(7,402 posts)Was Dick Cheney. Couldn't stand Russert for that reason.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)NotASurfer
(2,149 posts)Looking back I can remember a Russert interview torpedo the 1990s presidential aspirations of John Kasich, just by circling repeatedly to Kasich's ignorance of whatever he was trying to talking-point his way through. If Todd did that interview, it would have been with deference and minimal mention of how reality differed from talking points. That set the image in my mind: you better be knowledgeable and able to think on your feet. I don't get that from MTP today.
Maybe it is by comparison, but it still seems like now people show up expecting to yammer talking points without being seriously challenged unlike what I remember.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)You were. He was so far right before he died suddenly I quit watching!
And they took David Gregory off for Chuckles who is the poorest excuse of a host ever.
Wallace, Smith, even Bret Bauer would be better.
calimary
(81,220 posts)By many. Including me.
I did respect Tim Russerts work. For a long time. Until I heard how he went to some cocktail party in Georgetown and, when he spoke to a GOP party guest, he briefly opened his jacket wide enough to flash the bush/cheney campaign button he was wearing under cover. An attempt at a physical dog whistle, I suspect, to reassure said GOP guest that he was secretly a friendly. And this was DURING the 2000 campaign.
When I heard that, I lost all respect for Tim Russert. He even talked about this on the air, snickering and with a devilish grin (hee-hee-hee! Im a sneaky little so-&-so, aint I! Chuckle-chuckle wink-wink)
NotASurfer
(2,149 posts)I hadn't heard that assertion about being a secret GOP asset before, so I threw "was Tim Russert a GOP supporter" at Google.
Wikipedia had nothing but Google in turn had an entry from something called Conservapedia
https://www.conservapedia.com/Tim_Russert
I figured a right wing site would maybe mention the cocktail party, but their reference to the GOP support angle is this:
On the liberal side, he is attacked for, as a Democratic Underground (sic) stated, being "...anything BUT an objective journalist."[7]
Didn't find anything else, so far. The link to DU in their references goes nowhere, http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Time%20for%20change/31 , though a RW website might be linking to an alt reality version of DU.
Still digging
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)A Google search to know what Russert was. I heard him.
wnylib
(21,432 posts)still beloved here, well remembeted, and well respected for his work as a Dem who served in NY politics for Patrick Moynahan and Mario Cuomo, father of our current governor.
I used to love when a guest on his show made a claim that Russert easily disproved with a film clip of the guest. He did that often.
I believe the Russert shows that I watched and his record in NY Dem politics over anything a RW source says about him.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)By the end I quit watching him, but was shocked he died so young.. the show has never recovered. I do not watch it.
But after an uplifting Service at Early Church I try to keep the reality of what we live in away for the day.
calimary
(81,220 posts)MSNBC. He described going to this cocktail party during election season. And I still remember the devilish grin that took over his face when he described running into some GOP figure and when he believed nobody was looking, opened his jacket to reveal the secret bush/cheney campaign button so only his pal could see it. Like fraternity brothers flashing the secret code in a mixed crowd, wink-wink.
I remember feeling my jaw drop.
Okay, theres currying favor with various sides and sources so theyll come on your show and theyll allow you access, but then you portray yourself as objective and not instinctively favoring one side over another?
I watched the interview and couldnt help noticing that he added nothing along the lines of and on the inside of my jacket on the other side, I had a Gore/Lieberman campaign pin to flash to friends I knew were gonna be at the same cocktail party who were Democrats. Nothing. He wasnt doing any stealth both sides/BOTH SIIIIIIIDES!!!!! schtick that night.
I can never get around that one whenever Tim Russerts name comes up. When he died, I watched the lofty, worshipful coverage of his career and what he meant to NBC News and its political coverage over many years of elections and administrations. They all spoke of him in hushed tones. I could not. I couldnt get that shhhhhh, dont tell anybody, but just know Im one of you (wink-wink) story outta my mind. Still cant.
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bucolic_frolic
(43,133 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)Lets hear from Bolton, Mulvaney, and Twitler himself
Takket
(21,562 posts)That Schiff will be happy to let him be called in.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Trump to visit. Nancy seconded the offer yesterday!
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)TNNurse
(6,926 posts)LittleGirl
(8,283 posts)True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 18, 2019, 04:54 AM - Edit history (1)
After getting the best Medical care in the world standing with Trump in front of the WhiteHouse gleefully laughing that they had just voted to take health care away from millions.
He also bragged about God saving him. Lower than a snake in the grass.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)complete the job. This is one bastard who deserves to be gone. But he bounced back and doubled down, making the country a more dangerous place for the rest of us.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)lonely bird
(1,685 posts)Isnt that an oxymoron?
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Point taken!
The_Counsel
(1,660 posts)Schiffs witnesses?
As in witnesses for the prosecution? Somehow thats a problem now?
If they are fact witnesses that prove whether or not there was wrongdoing, why WOULDNT the committee want to talk to him/her? Just as if there were fact witnesses that prove there WASNT any wrongdoing they should be hearing from them as well.
But the White House doesnt want ANYONE speaking with this committee, which is VERY telling. Illegitimate proceeding my hairy brown buttocks. If youve done nothing wrong, and you have evidence and witness to that end, you should be providing that, Mr. Trump. What youve done so far is NOT the behavior of an innocent man, though...
JHB
(37,158 posts)The audience will hear the key words, fill in what they want, and be properly "triggered".
stopdiggin
(11,296 posts)the GOP wanted to bring in a bunch of their "own" witnesses -- most of whom were completely extraneous to the investigation, focused on conspiracy theory, and designed to derail and muddle the hearings -- and Schiff said, "Nyet"
The_Counsel
(1,660 posts)Like I said: the fact that the GOP couldnt come up with a single FACT witnessand not some conspiracy theorist nutthat could prove Trumps innocence in all this is very telling.
Too bad the Constition actually PROTECTS him here, or hed have been carted off to jail weeks ago.
Stuart G
(38,419 posts)Some don't know that Chris Wallace is the son of Mike Wallace. Mike had that same trait.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Wallace
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Surprised he showed up at Fox. But he does a fine job.
Fox needs to clean out their litter box. Jeanne, Hannity, Tucker, Dobbs! Who used to be a decent person, and the rest.
Marcuse
(7,479 posts)Mandeville
(35 posts)He is one of the reasons Louisiana has such a bad reputation...except for our newly reelected Democratic governor.
Scalise is a twat!
Hekate
(90,645 posts)Because, despite all the F-bombs, there is certain language we actually don't allow. Calling a man a demeaning word for a woman or woman's body-part falls into that category.
You're welcome.
Doodley
(9,088 posts)True Blue American
(17,984 posts)The poster is trying to help a newbie.
Hekate
(90,645 posts)True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Better a warning for a newbie than report.
lonely bird
(1,685 posts)the term pus bucket to replace what he used?
flying_wahini
(6,589 posts)progressoid
(49,983 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Back on his heels yesterday when he tried to call the witnesses, Schiffs! No Sir, those are dedicated Public Servants!
OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)Iggo
(47,549 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)...a little more like his father.