I'm going to speculate about Trump's visit to Walter Reed yesterday

[mnhtnbb]

and I'm going to guess that he heard the Supreme Court is going to decline to hear the case about releasing his taxes and it gave him a panic attack.

Anybody else want to play this game?

The assumption is the official press release story is false.

[Laffy Kat]

1. I honestly don't know what to believe anymore. nt

[mnhtnbb]

3. I certainly don't believe the explanation that was offered by the White House.

[elleng]

7. Nor I; his normal time for check ups has been Jan/Feb, I think.

[RKP5637]

8. ... or anything else. Most untrusted WH in the history of the nation. n/t

[Alpeduez21]

34. WTF is any 'phase' of a physical?

[MoonRiver]

2. I think he has lots of reasons for a panic attack.

[mnhtnbb]

5. But he's had lots of reasons for some time. Why now?

Maybe it wasn't a panic attack. Maybe it was a mini stroke.

[Pachamama]

35. I agree he has had lots of reasons - but I think previously that sociopath believed he can get away

...with everything.

Suddenly now, especially after the events of Roger Stone's conviction, the testimony in the impeachment proceedings and the unanimous ruling of the Appeals Court regarding his accounting firm needing to turn over 8 years of taxes and knowing that Sundlerland has to testify next week - led to him finally having a panic attack.

I meanwhile can't think of a more deserving person to have a stroke....

[MoonRiver]

40. Chickens coming home to roost. Even Idiot can see it.

[Laffy Kat]

6. Can sociopaths even have panic attacks? nt

[RKP5637]

10. Excellent question!!!!!! n/t

[OldRed2450]

23. I imagine if they're worried about themselves

they can.

[MoonRiver]

39. Yes, when facing the consequences for their crimes.

Victims, of course, are irrelevant. It's all about them.

[elleng]

4. Dunno, but hope it was something REAL,

pain, panic, SOMETHING that gave him 'concern.'

[Hoyt]

9. He's got a lot of junk to atone for, and people are catching on. I don't think his taxes are

going to show anything we don't already know or suspect. It will show he's a braggart because his income is no where close to what he tries to claim, but we already know that. There's not a tax schedule for illegal income or payments.

He knows he's close to GOPers being forced to turn on him, and he'll go down as worst Prez in history.

[RKP5637]

11. Yep, eventually they will turn on him like they did to Nixon. n/t

[Qutzupalotl]

20. If he is profiting from his presidency, that would be a violation

of Article I, section 9. His taxes would be proof of personal income and sources listed could open up a ton of leads. We might be able to show his deductions are fraudulent, for example. Just the fact that he has fought so hard to hide them suggests something isn’t right.

There is a slim chance that his taxes are 100% legit, but knowing what we know about Trump in all other areas of his life, that seems unlikely.

[RockRaven]

12. One thing I think can be classified as "not speculation" is that the official story is false.

Given the Trump WH's history of falsehoods, and their defensive "don't you dare question our story" posture, and the laughable implausibility of the official story, it is certain that the explanation the press sec gave to the media is bogus.

[WhiteTara]

13. Yep. Being confronted with the possibility

of consequences sent him into an absolute panic attack. He can't believe that someone/anyone is going to oppose him so completely he doesn't get to squirm out of the problems he caused. Now, if he "dies" and has a closed casket funeral, we know he's sneaking out the back door to go play golf with Ken Lay.

[mnhtnbb]

16. I don't believe the routine physical story at all. Not at all.

And I'm inclined to think because he walked to the vehicle and they didn't helicopter him to Walter Reed that he went for some tests that couldn't be done at the White House, but that the WH physician had already ruled out possible MI or something else for which time would be critical.

I like the panic attack possibility given the leak of "chest discomfort". And I suspect it wasn't the buildup of everything that has been happening, but some new piece of news that triggered it.

Anyway, it's entertaining to guess.

[FreeState]

29. Not really

Maby an anxiety attack - Panic Attacks don’t have a singular cause or anchor.

https://healthblog.uofmhealth.org/wellness-prevention/panic-attack-vs-anxiety-attack-6-things-to-know

Anxiety is a condition defined as excessive, persisting worry over an imminent event such as death or illness, or even minor events such as being late for an appointment or other uncertain outcomes. Symptoms include fatigue, hypervigilance, restlessness and irritability — and are often chronic.


Panic attacks, on the other hand, are short bursts of intense fear often marked by increased heart rate, brief chest pain or shortness of breath. Typically lasting fewer than 30 minutes, they could occur once or repeatedly — sometimes without reason. These episodes can send patients to the emergency room, as they are sometimes mistaken for a heart attack.

[DUgosh]

14. Trial Balloon

Setting the stage for a medical crisis if it’s needed

[Cornus]

15. Exactly!

There will surely be follow-ups.

[StarfishSaver]

17. Has anyone seen him since then?

I wonder about his affect and condition.

[mnhtnbb]

18. He's tweeted, but I don't think he's been seen.

The press pool did NOT see him return to the White House, although the story is he came back after a couple of hours.

And his twitter feed looks like anyone using his phone could have posted all that stuff. It could be an attempt to indicate he's behaving normally for him.

[Maru Kitteh]

27. What kind of punctuation and spelling?

Aides are afraid to push that too far so they use his “boisterous” voice but they spell and punctuate above the 3rd grade level.

[dewsgirl]

28. And they sent the press home, at 9 am they called a lid.

[LeftInTX]

19. Did the SC decline to hear the case???

[mnhtnbb]

21. NO. I'm just guessing. There hasn't been a response one way or the other from the Supremes.

[mahina]

22. He connected the dots and I agree, probably had a panic attack.

And then of course his staff lied about it because what could they say?

[empedocles]

33. Just saw Chuck Todd had a chart showing trump tweets numbers before

Impeachment [well under 200], and after Impeachment started [consistently well over 200].

[Hermit-The-Prog]

24. it's constipation ...

Elise Stefanik tried to join Leningrad Lindsey, Moscow Mitch, Cowpile Nunes, Skeezy Scalise, and Rancid Paul up in Trump's ass and even that big gut finally hit its limit.

[Cirque du So-What]

25. I think it's cumulative

Can’t point to one incident and say that’s whut dunnit. We know that he hangs onto every little slight from years past, and these last three have been no picnic. Surprised he hasn’t experienced an episode of some sort already.

[Bok_Tukalo]

26. He only has a little over a year of the best healthcare in the world available for free

He's going to get a lot of stuff taken care of before he's a former president in Florida.


My speculation.

[mnhtnbb]

30. This is a pretty fun thread on Twitter

speculating why Trump has not been seen today.

He was seen getting in to the vehicle at the WH to go to Walter Reed. He was presumably seen exiting Walter Reed and going to a vehicle. He was not seen returning to the WH and getting out of a vehicle. Go ahead and click on the link and then scroll through the responses. One of the Press vans also was discovered to have a flat tire at Walter Reed!

There's also confirmation in the Twitter thread that the visit to Walter Reed was NOT on POTUS schedule in the am. per the press. In other words, it was a hastily scheduled event in the afternoon.

Link to tweet

[roamer65]

31. I think it was the extra greasy KFC.

Almost...sigh.

[AkFemDem]

32. This is his exit plan

A “health crisis” necessitating his resignation.

[yellowdogintexas]

36. if in fact it was a mini stroke, or suspected to be one anyway

a CT scan or MRI would be needed, and the WH probably does not have that in the on site medical clinic

[Jewls2]

37. I do not think he would go a weakness like illness, to get out of trouble.

I do not think that works with his narcissism. I think there was probably an health issue. Maybe panic attack but with his age and horrible life style, probably something real.

But, I do not think he would fabricate an health issue because in his mind, that shows a weakness, inferior.

[Talitha]

38. Maybe he got a 'Dear Don' text from Pootie.