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(22,665 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:24 PM Nov 2019

Nicolle Wallace, "I believe he (John Bolton) is the difference between conviction and no conviction



You have used the analogy of brick by brick, and I think the Democrats have gone about this in a very sturdy way trying to get this case across. Where I think we are right now, however, is that castle that’s being built out of those bricks is going to be large and imposing and undeniable in what it looks like to anybody with eyes in their head.

And, yet, I don’t think at this moment that that castle, that built, that edifice is going to be enough to move Republicans in an appreciable number in either the House or the Senate to act in the way the Democrats are going to want to act with respect to the disposition of president trump’s presidency, which is why I think so much now hinges in a way on John Bolton. And he is the person who can do something other than build the edifice, the person who because of his credibility, because of his place in the world, because of what he means to conservatism, because of what his place in the world and particularly the Republican world.

The more we learn about him and his role in this, where he was and what he was privy to, what he witnessed, if he came forward and told the story, it might be enough to start to shift the tectonic plates. It might. Not necessarily because we know Republicans are resistant to even powerful pieces of evidence but he’s the wildcard now, and, man, could he — turns out to be the most high-value target on the list by a long, long way. - PoliticusUSA


It's sad to me that facts don't matter to republicans on any level, only loyalty and what those within the republican 'click' have to say.
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Nicolle Wallace, "I believe he (John Bolton) is the difference between conviction and no conviction (Original Post) ffr Nov 2019 OP
If that is true then he won't be convicted..Bolton wants a career helpisontheway Nov 2019 #1
I wouldn't hang my hat on Bolton... VarryOn Nov 2019 #2
Good point Poiuyt Nov 2019 #7
Uh huh, and if Bolton testifies, then . . . gratuitous Nov 2019 #3
Here's hoping Bolton wants revenge on Trump. Marie Marie Nov 2019 #4
Damning Testimony by Bolton won't lead to Trump Conviction ritapria Nov 2019 #5
The Republican party can only go so far down the road they've chosen..... Red Mountain Nov 2019 #6

helpisontheway

(5,005 posts)
1. If that is true then he won't be convicted..Bolton wants a career
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:34 PM
Nov 2019

as a Republican. That would be difficult if he was blamed for a Trump being removed.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. Uh huh, and if Bolton testifies, then . . .
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 07:50 PM
Nov 2019

Let's move those goal posts one more time, and say that, uh . . . Ivanka has to testify! Yeah, that's it. Because we've already passed several goal lines on our way to this point (e.g., a whistleblower, testimony from someone who has seen the full transcript of the July 25 call, evidence of a quid pro quo, someone who was actually on the July 25 call, someone from the diplomatic corps, someone who did the hokey-pokey and properly turned himself around). But let's just set up another goal post, anyway.

And one after that.

And one after that.

And one after that.

And . . . well shit, the election's over.

 

ritapria

(1,812 posts)
5. Damning Testimony by Bolton won't lead to Trump Conviction
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 08:15 PM
Nov 2019

I have no faith in these Republican Senators ….. They will never abandon Trump unless and until the Trump Cult abandons Dear Leader …..…..Bolton will shake their faith in Big Don ?

Red Mountain

(1,727 posts)
6. The Republican party can only go so far down the road they've chosen.....
Mon Nov 18, 2019, 08:26 PM
Nov 2019

before they disappear forever.

Maybe some Republicans are trying to think of a way out of this mess.

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