Wow, Obama's former doctor is telling Erin Burnett that Trump is having major neurological problems

[kpete]

From @OutfrontCNN: Dr. David Scheiner, Obama's former doctor, says Trump's "inability to say words sometimes worries me tremendously. He is having trouble word-finding... Comedians joke about it, but it's not a joking matter."
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[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

1. Too much Adderall?

[calimary]

50. Too much junk food on the brain?

That could contribute, as well. Doesn’t help cholesterol levels or guard against late-onset diabetes either.

[brush]

70. Sounds like a precursor to a stroke. I know a recovered stroke victim who...

still has problems at times getting out the right words. They didn't take trump to the hospital for nothing.

[littlemissmartypants]

96. Could even be mini strokes or TIA's (transient ischemic attacks)

Lots of little strokes can be just as debilitating as one big one when they are frequent and the deleterious effects are cumulative. Either way something's up.

[brush]

99. Yep, something's up.

[Iliyah]

2. Duh . . .

[irisblue]

4. His speech patterns have changed since the 90s

Trump's father Fred had Alzheimers last several years of his life.

[tblue37]

12. Fred's Alzheimer's symptoms started really showing around 70--just like Donald's. nt

[bucolic_frolic]

20. Yup, that's the disease

for these symptoms. Doubt it's stroke. Dementia might trigger 25th amendment if the GOP wants to change horses.

[SergeStorms]

91. In that clip from the White House on his way to Walter Reed....

you could see that his tie was missing and the top two buttons of his shirt were undone. Other than when he's cheating at golf, when have you ever seen Trump without his ubiquitous 6 foot long tie and the buttons of his shirt undone? I never have, not even on the campaign trail or at his Nazi rallies. There was something attached to his suit jacket as well, that looked like it had a manila folder or something atop it in order to conceal it's identity. There definitely was skullduggery afoot, and it was not a trip for a routine physical!

[wnylib]

34. And I believe it runs in families. If a parent has it,

the chances increase that the children will have it.

I would not wish it on anyone or feel any schaudenfreude toward anyone with it.

Besides, if it is true, then he won't be of a sound enough mind to fully appreciate how much his behavior and policies are despised and rejected. The despicable behavior and criminality existed long before his mind started failing.

[True Blue American]

81. Many times it starts with Dementia

Short term memory. Those I know focused on a subject,repeat the same thing over and over.
Like how Trump dwells on winning the election and the size of his crowds.

[wnylib]

82. I suspect that his dementia has a different cause

than Alzheimer's, even though it runs in his family. Another cause of dementia is repeated mini strokes over a period of time. I'm not going to get into it here because I already did that further down the thread.

[True Blue American]

84. Yes, I know how

Mini strokes happen before the big one. They may be momentarily confused. Most usually get worse. I also think Trumps drug use, his diet that has lined his arteries with calcium are just one of many problems.

Congestive heart failure has also been mentioned . That would explain the bloat.

[wnylib]

85. In my post toward the end of the thread I

mentioned the diet and arteries, which are contributors to mini strokes. Pieces of plaque get dislodged from the artery walls and drift into smaller arteries and capillaries, where they block oxygen to the brain until the capillary breaks or the plaque breaks up into smaller pieces and pass through. When that happens enough times, pockets of brain cells are destroyed. Quite often the brain area affected deals with speech but it could affect other parts of the body too.

His speech patterns fit mini stroke damage. His diet, age, and life style fit the profile of people who experience mini strokes.

To avoid a big one he will need to eat healthier, not just cutting saturated fats and sugars, but increasing veggies and grains for beneficial vitamins and minerals as well as fiber. Plus, cholesterol meds, an increase of healthy oils (olive oil), and exercise to increase his oxygen intake and reduce his weight.

He is not the type of guy to discipline himself that way so he will face the consequences. I think he believes that enough money will buy medical fixes without any effort on his part.

[bluescribbler]

87. Might also be a tumor.

My wife had word retrieval issues after her cancer had spread to her brain.

[SharonAnn]

90. My aunt suddenly had word retrieval problems and was diagnosed within 4 months with glioblastoma.

It's the brain cancer that Ted Kennedy died of. Another very cruel disease.

[SergeStorms]

92. What are the chances...

that Trump would listen to a Doctor? He knows more about everything than anyone else, so I'm sure he knows much more about his health than any Doctor.

[smirkymonkey]

109. I saw an interview of his back then and he was not all that sharp even at that time.

He has never been an intelligent man. He has always been the king of bullshit, but he's ten times worse now. He can't hide it anymore, except his moronic base will never notice because he is still just as hateful as they are and that is all they care about.

[Anon-C]

5. With his other issues and with stimulants, this anomic aphasia

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...problems finding words...would indicate a stroke? MRI's aren't likely to happen at the White House.


On edit, actually pretty dumb to assume he would not have an MRI at the White House, one would think.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

6. what? everybody says "foistered", don't they? ...

[zentrum]

7. But I think a lot of this is

......just ignorance and illiteracy. He hasn't read a book in 40 years or more. Just too ignorant to know he's mispronounced the word.

[Mr.Bill]

9. You really think he read books 40 years ago?

[zentrum]

75. You're so right.

I meant since he was a read to by his nanny 70 years ago!

[CaptYossarian]

78. Why not? He came close to writing a book once.

He never challenged his mind, never once was curious to learn, always thought he knew it all.

His brain is atrophied. That's why he "loves the uneducated". Even a fool can outsmart someone. He found 60 million of them.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

11. not quite. United Shursh?

[tblue37]

14. His dentures really slipped that time! nt

[Hermit-The-Prog]

15. and that was probably 4 kilos of adderall ago! some people say

[soldierant]

30. Urmagurd!

[bucolic_frolic]

24. foist is the verb, foister is a noun, so Trump is using it incorrectly

Definition of foister

foister noun

1 archaic : pickpocket
2 obsolete : a palmer of dice : cheat, rogue

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/foister

[Orrex]

28. Foistered. It's Australian for beeir, mate.

[lunatica]

36. Foister Freeze ice cream.

Everybody knows that.

[Adsos Letter]

41. Great.

Now I want one of their vanilla shakes, and the closest Fosters Freeze is 15 miles away.

Thanks lunatica…thanks a lot.

[TeamPooka]

61. same here.

[sprinkleeninow]

63. Couldja get one for me? 😋

[sprinkleeninow]

59. How d'ya say beeh in Ostahlian? Fahster's. 😤

[BamaRefugee]

40. I'm hungry for some Foisters Rockefeller!

[sprinkleeninow]

60. --

[wnylib]

57. Since he used that on more thsn one occasion

and did not fumble or hesitate over it, I think his use of foistered is not an indication of mental decline. I think it's just a case of general ignorance like W saying nucular instead of nuclear.

[Maru Kitteh]

8. Mr. Maru and I were yelling together in the kitchen "IT'S ABOUT TIME!"

[MontanaMama]

10. I think he's having mini strokes.

They can impart speech. If he were having heart issues, they never would have let him walk out of the WH on his own.

[greatauntoftriplets]

38. That's called aphasia.

A long-dead cousin had a stroke and had trouble putting thoughts to speech so others could understand it. Helen's was pretty extreme, and it always seemed to be horribly frustrating for her.

[MontanaMama]

49. Yes! That's the word

I wanted to use...aphasia. He could be having mini neurological events...maybe he had a bigger one this weekend that concerned WH staff. Again, if he were having heart problems, I doubt they’d let him walk to the vehicle.

[OxQQme]

13. Yep. We need to get to the 'oranges' of his slurring. n/t

[Hermit-The-Prog]

16. oringes, you say? ...

[Harker]

19. And find out who's the ringmaster

of this citrus.

[soldierant]

32. ROTFL

[Glimmer of Hope]

17. Can this be fatal?

[paleotn]

22. Depending on the underlying cause, yes.

[Glimmer of Hope]

31. Thank you.

[AdamGG]

18. Once he's out of office, maybe he'll act extra senile to try to avoid prison

Like the NY mafia don who used to wear his bathrobe all the time. I think that was Vincent the Chin Gigante.

[Doitnow]

89. Been thinking just that.

[mopinko]

21. his language patterns have been a blaring klaxon to me from day one.

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beside just his inability to speak in anything but superlatives, his constant repetitions of some phrases, describing wildly disparate event/issues, the aphasia, and the slurring, there is very clearly something wrong w his brain.
language is a real window to the mind.

i have been saying for some time that an mri of his head is a slam dunk diminished capacity defense. put money on that if you can.

[unblock]

45. Klaxon

[mopinko]

54. ty

[paleotn]

23. Well, that's as obvious as the sunrise.

[Johnny2X2X]

25. Rushed to Walter Reed Saturday

Hasn’t been seen nor heard since. Walter Reid has an MRI, that’s my guess.

[irisblue]

35. And as military base, it can be locked down.

Cause a portable MRI unit pulling up behind the White House would have drawn a lot of attention and been slow.

[Johnny2X2X]

37. They have portable MRIs?

It’s a massive machine with a massive magnet.

[irisblue]

53. Yep

Source--https://www.statnews.com/2019/10/25/smaller-lighter-cheaper-a-serial-entrepreneur-wants-his-portable-mri-to-transform-medicine/


snip--"Usually an MRI machine requires a giant, powerful magnet and must be encased in its own copper-shielded room. It is why the behemoths cost hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars. But this device, from a startup called Hyperfine, is about the size of a luggage cart. It could be wheeled from one bed to another.

On a recent day, I lay down and put my head under the machine. Within minutes a three-dimensional image of my brain was on a screen in an adjoining room — not quite as good as a normal MRI, but pretty clear. There was no need for me to take off ordinary metal objects. I wore my belt."

snip--"
Dr. Kevin Sheth, the associate chair for clinical research in the department of neurology at Yale University, said the device has been used more than 100 times in the neurological intensive care unit he oversees as part of ongoing clinical research. He has not personally received any money from Hyperfine"


Fairly small portable MRI units are on the way, but the visualized details are not quite there yet.


Last mobile MRI unit I saw was the size of a school bus, you need to watch where you park them because you still can generate a magnetic field.

[backscatter712]

58. Oh, you can't have anything metal or magnetic around an MRI machine.

As mentioned, they have giant superconducting monster magnets, that will throw heavy metal objects with extreme force.

[captain queeg]

76. I'm not sure about that no metal thing

I have a lot of hardware in my back and have had MRIs. It’s probably titanium and that might not be magnetic. Iron is a real problem

[backscatter712]

97. Yeah, titanium isn't nearly so much of a problem.

It's ferrous metals, or any magnetic metal, that's a hazard around an MRI.

The metal in titanium can cause distortion in MRI images though. If you mention that you have implants, the MRI tech can work around that.

[captain queeg]

98. Sounds right.

I had an MRI last year when I was having all my back problems. They said they couldnt get a good read in the area of my previous surgery where there was a bunch of hardware. Even more now.

[sandiapeach]

68. Thanks

thanks for your comment. I have a history of a brain tumor, but I also have a Cochlear Implant. Because of the implant I cannot have the MRIs I need to monitor for tumor regrowth. The magnet of a regular MRI would move the implant in my brain which would not be nice. I will keep an eye out for units like you described. Of course I live in NM and it will probably a long time before this new technology reaches us.

[Jewls2]

46. Wasn't he at a rally tonight? Maybe I read wrong.

[Johnny2X2X]

51. No

Next rally is next week Tuesday.

[Jewls2]

55. Ok, thanks.

[warmfeet]

26. I hope the disease

progresses very rapidly.

Very rapidly.

[Kaleva]

27. Here's a clip of Trump speaking in 1988

[Adsos Letter]

47. Lucid and well spoken, language flows easily.

Whether or not we agree with what he is saying in this video, it points up a marked difference between his speech and clarity of mind in 1988 as opposed to now. Thank you for posting this Kaleva.

Also: at the 1:44 mark he pinches his thumb and forefinger in the "ok" sign that is currently associated with white supremacy. Perhaps it is primarily just a communication tic for him (I'm not trying to naysay any of the white supremacist policies/attitudes coming out of this administration. Trump is certainly a racist).

[AdamGG]

94. He's more fluid and low key, but he's saying the same bullshit

[Kaleva]

95. But one can clearly see how his speaking has changed.

[emmaverybo]

103. Interesting. Coherent. Thoughts are connected and a part of an overall point/idea. He can

actually make a point here.

[Kaleva]

105. He doesn't come across as belligerent either in the the earlier videos.

[emmaverybo]

106. No. Right. Not hyped up either and mugging and trash talking like a wrestling character. Different

affect entirely.

[Kaleva]

107. He strikes me as someone who is likeable in the early videos.

[greatauntoftriplets]

29. But he told us that he has the bestest words!

[RainCaster]

33. He does! But they're not the correct words.

He does have the best drool, however.

[greatauntoftriplets]

39. He drools more than my two-year-old great niece!

[JoeOtterbein]

42. Trump is evil but it's even more evil for the GOP and Trump's "friends & family" to abuse us while..

...they abuse him, to abuse us more.

[gab13by13]

43. Meh,

that means he can still eat fast food.

[gratuitous]

44. It isn't a joking matter

But that's all the American people have left since neither the President nor anyone on his staff will admit there's a problem. What are we left with but to take it unseriously?

[shanti]

48. Ya think?

It must have gotten so bad that someone had to step in.

[yaesu]

52. his bad hair plugs have mutated into the body snatchers. nt

[Nitram]

56. Here we go again. Reagan showed symptoms of dementia as early as 1981,

the first year of his first term. Think on that! Eight years with a president who was suffering from Alzheimer's. He probably wasn't lying when he claimed he knew nothing about Iran/Contra. But it was so damn useful to have him in office. I don't know how many of you have seen the movie "Being There", but it wasn't fictional, and it is happening again

[lunatica]

67. Well Reagan had Nancy to run the country for him

and to speak for him when he fumbled for words, and she was fierce in her protection. I don’t approve of that, but I think Nancy managed her husband pretty well.

Melania on the other hand... She couldn’t care less. About him or us.

[Nitram]

73. You sound a little blithe about the country being in the hands of a woman who took advice from

astrologers.

[lunatica]

74. Maybe we should be thankful she asked for advice

from someone outside the Republican Party.

I imagine Melania only asks her lawyers for advice, and only to serve herself.

In actuality though I don’t really think either one cares all that much for the country itself.

[Brainfodder]

62. I'm not a doctor but: DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH!

He can drop dead, we promise to celebrate in his honor!

[doc03]

64. I never heard the word "major" nt

[Blue Owl]

65. Garbage In Garbage Out

n/t

[wnylib]

66. I think it's mini strokes - transient ischemic attacks (tia)

That fits his lifestyle and the symptoms. Poor diet, lack of exercise, high blood pressure, and daily high levels of stress lead to temporary, brief blockages in arteries that limit oxygen to the brain. This would cause slurred speech, trouble finding words, disrupted thinking patterns. Can also cause dizziness and other physical symptoms depending on what area of the.brain is affected.

Repeated mini strokes over a period of time can reduce mental clarity and overall brain function.

They can also be forerunners of a more serious stroke or heart attack.

If a longer spell of symptoms occurred, indicating a more serious, but not necessarily incapacitating stroke, that would explain taking him to a hospital for tests and prescribed treatment.

I cannot believe that people closest to him have not noticed symptoms that are obvious to the general public. They must be aware and are just not talking about it.

[Captain Zero]

69. Consider this: what doctor does a routine physical exam at 4:30 pm on a Saturday ?

Give me a break. NONE, that's how many.

[Jewls2]

71. Any number would if a President wanted it done at that time, I would imagine.

[duforsure]

72. I watched the show,

And heard him talk about what is happening , and mini stroked comes to mind after thinking about it. If anyone has experienced one , or been close to someone while they had one it is spot on what he said could be happening, and why the rush to Walter Reed.

[Pacifist Patriot]

77. How many years have some of us been saying that?

His neurological symptoms were evident in 2016 and have gotten worse at an accelerating rate. I have expressed sincere doubt he would physically be able to be a candidate by next summer.

[B Stieg]

79. If tRump is having neurological problems...

then what in the hell is wrong with Jim Jordan?

[LeftInTX]

80. His base won't care!

"He's just like us".....

[Crowman2009]

83. Probably from all the nose candy he use to snort at Studio 54.

Just saying!

[SpankMe]

86. Neurosyphilis

From Mayoclinic.org:

At any stage, syphilis can spread and, among other damage, cause damage to the brain and nervous system (neurosyphilis) and the eye (ocular syphilis).

Just sayin'.

[C Moon]

88. It is a joking matter because he's 100% a-hole. It's not a joking matter because

he was hoisted into our WH.

[cstanleytech]

93. I suspect that the problem is Alzheimer's as from what I

have read he had it and it could explain everything we have seen and heard him do.
I also suspect those near him like his family as well as a number of high level Republicans know and are using it for their own gain.

[magicarpet]

100. trDump sold his soul to the Devil,...

.... decades ago, now the Devil wants trDump to start paying the rent, he is owned by Satan.

[Turbineguy]

101. I can accept anything

that will end his presidency.

I know not to expect the revenge I'd like.

[MissMillie]

102. I, too, worry about Trump's inability to...

well, to do anything. To say he is inept is a monster of an understatement.


But I don't take very much stock in any doctor that makes a medical or psycological diagnosis from a distance (from watching TV footage or reading tweets).

I recall Bill Frist trying to give his expert opinion on Terry Schiavo a few years back, from watching a video of her. I didn't take much stock in that either.

[John Fante]

104. An idiot psychopath with dementia and possibly early onset alzheimers. Just great.

To the 62.9 million idiots that voted for this trainwreck of a human being, all I can say is: FUCK YOU

[duforsure]

108. I think he's right

Possible mini strokes , dementia, congestive heart issues, blood pressure issues, and possible drug and addiction issues, and more, but as he hides it from the public its seen almost daily his health is failing, and he's desperate to hold onto power. Watch as he gives ivankie more and more of his duties , and gets so bad he's kept out of the public view altogether so she can then protect them , because he knows its over for them if he leaves , or is removed from office. When he starts hiding more and more , and delegates to others his duties, you can then bet he's so bad he's done. Will the republicans in Congress accept it? Ivanka telling them what they can do? Will his followers believe them, and accept her? He knows what will happen if he's forced out of office, so he'll try to stall it from happening , with their help. He'll not change any of his habits , so expect a major event , maybe sooner than he , or we think, and these are early signs of it coming. He is very , very ill I think. He will get worse with all the stress of him getting exposed also, and losing more court battles. The longer republicans allow him to stay in office, the more republicans will lose in the 2020 election, so their future is in their hands, get rid of him for survival, or destroy their party and possibly our country for someone not even a republican, he's a totally compromised putin loyalist. trump's in deep trouble now, in many ways.