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***IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY HEARING NOV 19 THREAD 1*** (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 OP
About to get started... BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #1
Good morning! Kick! Mersky Nov 2019 #2
Vindman is not in his uniform. I think the optics are better if he is. SKKY Nov 2019 #3
Yeah he is! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #5
? rzemanfl Nov 2019 #21
Vindman is entering... BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #4
Nevermind. I thought I saw him in a suit, but it was apparently someone else. SKKY Nov 2019 #6
Could have been a lawyer? BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #7
Probably, but if so, there is a lawyer who looks just like Vindman. SKKY Nov 2019 #10
His twin brother is a lawyer irisblue Nov 2019 #35
I had no idea he had a twin brother. That perhaps explains it then. SKKY Nov 2019 #120
What irisblue said - Vindman has a twin!!! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #69
Aww. crickets Nov 2019 #72
Here comes Jennifer Williams BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #8
Is Jennifer Williams Mersky Nov 2019 #16
Yes thank you - will correct my post!! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #18
Is all I can do to keep track. We'll juggle it all together. Mersky Nov 2019 #88
You are welcome and thank you for helping me fix it! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #91
Adam Schiff has gavelled in and will do his opening statement. BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #9
Glad Schiff went through the rules a bit beforehand crickets Nov 2019 #11
Am glad the zoo keepers didn't start interrupting with nonsense parliamentary inquiries BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #15
Good. Brought that up last week and was flamed for it. Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #90
Thank you for these threads NewJeffCT Nov 2019 #12
Schiff is giving his opening statement BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #17
If you don't mind irreverence, Wonkette has been posting live blogs: crickets Nov 2019 #23
LOL BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #25
I do...always forget about wonkette. Love the header Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #95
Here is the place I found last week that was live-blogging the hearings BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #24
Kick dalton99a Nov 2019 #13
...and away we go!!!!! spanone Nov 2019 #14
Nobody interrupted Schiff with a bogus point of order. Mike 03 Nov 2019 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #20
Investigating corruption, of course! klook Nov 2019 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #130
He's crafting trumpcare. WhoWoodaKnew Nov 2019 #127
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #131
Not that they deserve it, but it does grate when Schiff says Trump, Guiliani question everything Nov 2019 #22
MOO MOO is up - MUTE alert! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #26
A few words for Nunes malaise Nov 2019 #27
Schiff goes there. Brings up extortion and bribery! Roland99 Nov 2019 #28
Subsequently, MOOnes lying outright that media reports did not match claims in hearings Roland99 Nov 2019 #32
Wow, Nunes is actually going for the crickets Nov 2019 #29
nunes immediately defends trump....what a pathetic 'human' spanone Nov 2019 #30
Dickhead Nunes attacking media. mobeau69 Nov 2019 #31
Going on about mueller and Russian collusion saying it was all false Roland99 Nov 2019 #34
Nunes: Who you gonna believe--me or your lying eyes? The Blue Flower Nov 2019 #33
MooMoo ranting about the whistleblower BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #36
Objection! Irrelevant Roland99 Nov 2019 #39
Russian hoax, Russian hoax. SamKnause Nov 2019 #37
Devin! Botany Nov 2019 #38
He is a one trick cow ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #61
I walked away and posted the cow picture after he started to blather some kind of conspiracy crap Botany Nov 2019 #71
Nunes "everything is a conspiracy" ismnotwasm Nov 2019 #40
Gah, this is a lot of galloping for one cow. Mersky Nov 2019 #41
Yeah, mooman, it's "the media's" fault. Utterly pathetic. They got nuthin" & I think the catbyte Nov 2019 #42
Nunes is a pathological liar. gademocrat7 Nov 2019 #43
Nunes is going full nut ball conspiracy OKNancy Nov 2019 #44
MooMoo telling people to read the discredited Solomon story that even the Hill has backed away from. BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #45
That was stunning. Mike 03 Nov 2019 #65
And he insisted the discredited story be introduced into the record BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #83
If the WB is in witness protection, doesn't ... Whiskeytide Nov 2019 #46
They embrace their mobbery! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #55
Nunes is claiming the whistleblower and "democrats" have coordinated crickets Nov 2019 #47
The lies are sickening. ancianita Nov 2019 #60
Thanks for the thread BumRushDaShow padah513 Nov 2019 #48
You are welcome! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #78
How many times will the Rethugs say Obama and Hilary? SummerSnow Nov 2019 #49
I hope it's from Long Island. WhoWoodaKnew Nov 2019 #138
I hate it when they say Hunter had no qualifications OKNancy Nov 2019 #50
MOOnes putting all his eggs in the John Solomon / Ken Vogel basket Roland99 Nov 2019 #51
Puppet Nunes arrogantly tells Americans what they saw. Disgusting attempt to manipulate perception. ancianita Nov 2019 #52
*ding!* Right on point. Chilling. nt crickets Nov 2019 #74
The supreme evil is that Nunes tells Americans to deny what they hear right before THE eyewitness ancianita Nov 2019 #139
I thought I'd give listening to Nunes a chance mnhtnbb Nov 2019 #53
lapdog nunes hoping to be paid; by WHOM, tho? elleng Nov 2019 #54
Firtash, et al sounds about right. Mersky Nov 2019 #64
MooMoo is done - Schiff now introducing the witnesses with a brief bio BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #56
Hunter Biden, Hunter Biden, Hunter Biden!!!! Who, exactly, is being impeached? Arkansas Granny Nov 2019 #57
lol @ democrat puppets. SummerSnow Nov 2019 #58
Evil, evil fucking lying hypocrites. SamKnause Nov 2019 #59
Both have now been sworn in and Jennifer Williams will start first with opening statement BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #62
Didn't know this. Ms Williams worked on Bush/Cheney campaign Roland99 Nov 2019 #63
So Nunes is entering all rw conspiracy theories on record: Ukraine meddled in 2016 RestoreAmerica2020 Nov 2019 #66
Crackpot conspiracy theories are all the repukes have got meow2u3 Nov 2019 #99
OMG Williams said that Carolina Rice was a hero BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #67
Trump has called Jennifer Williams a 'never Trumper' SummerSnow Nov 2019 #68
She probably knows that... BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author irisblue Nov 2019 #92
No, that's Pence's press secretary, Katie Waldman. Pacifist Patriot Nov 2019 #114
Whoa, was I wrong. Thx irisblue Nov 2019 #115
I have a feeling Ms. Williams is chomping at the bit to testify. Pacifist Patriot Nov 2019 #118
She served in Kingston, Jamaica malaise Nov 2019 #70
Trump is having a meltdown... SummerSnow Nov 2019 #73
I hope someone gathered up all his phones crickets Nov 2019 #79
Or at least set up one of those jamming devices nearby BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #84
I hope he does tweet. It damages him when he does. nt tblue37 Nov 2019 #134
Yup. nt crickets Nov 2019 #140
LOL Sounds like she is trying to shield Pence BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #76
From what I've read, Williams will disclose Pence's call content behind closed door testimony ffr Nov 2019 #141
Yes - she said she would be willing to testify in a closed-door "classified" setting BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #142
Vindman up with opening statement BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #77
Both Vindman & Williams are very good Botany Nov 2019 #80
Vindman's prepared statement: blaze Nov 2019 #82
Vindman just buried Sondland and Trump. True Blue American Nov 2019 #86
Thank you! BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #87
+1 dalton99a Nov 2019 #108
Very strong statement, esp. the closing. thanks hlthe2b Nov 2019 #135
Anyone Wanna Guess What Time Today that Trump Returns to Walter Reed OldManTarHeel Nov 2019 #85
Good one! Mike 03 Nov 2019 #93
Vindman killed it. Especially that closing bit. NT Happy Hoosier Nov 2019 #97
+1 crickets Nov 2019 #122
Reporting back through his implant to his puppet masters for instructions. ancianita Nov 2019 #98
Vindman excoriating others who have attacked those who testified BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #89
Vindman just announced his brother was there with him today BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #94
He mentioned that he has two brothers. Staph Nov 2019 #110
Okay - and I think I heard Schiff later mention something about the family BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #112
Aw, Vindman mentions his 'little brother' in his statement, so cute crickets Nov 2019 #96
Now starting the 45 minute questions periods, Schiff starting and then going to counsel BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #100
Schiff has clearly explained the rule Stefanik crickets Nov 2019 #101
I feel so bad for Vindman. You can tell this is the last thing he wants to be doing. catbyte Nov 2019 #102
Lawyer for Williams is saying Pence claimed the testimony of the call is "classified" BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #103
The "perfect" call that had most its transcript released by the WH?? Roland99 Nov 2019 #124
Apparently this was related to Pence's call with Zelensky BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #128
ah....surely the VP's call was "classified" while the one the POTUS was on was not. Roland99 Nov 2019 #133
... BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #137
Williams counsel refuses to allow her to answer questions. onecaliberal Nov 2019 #104
Oh here we go: Pence has decided his phone call is classified. crickets Nov 2019 #105
Willaims willing to appear (or submit in writing) to provide info for a "classified" later session. BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #106
Where is Pence, the weasel, hiding these days? polichick Nov 2019 #107
On mother's bosom ffr Nov 2019 #143
Schiff asked about whether corruption was mentioned at April call (to Vindman) - answer no. BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #109
Schiff question to Williams about Drumpf telling Pence not to go to the Ukraine inauguration BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #111
Vindman is excellent! mucifer Nov 2019 #113
Schiff bringing up July 10 meeting and Mulvaney BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #116
Ready! JHB Nov 2019 #117
Question: why would OMB review funds to see if they crickets Nov 2019 #119
Usually there are reviews that go on BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #125
Got it - Thanks! crickets Nov 2019 #129
No. There's no policy to review or withhold funds. Mulvaney withheld funds on MF45's order. ancianita Nov 2019 #132
That's what I thought. I'm sure that will be covered in more detail in later testimony. nt crickets Nov 2019 #144
***IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY HEARING NOV 19 THREAD 2*** IS UP BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #121
Col. Vindman is everyone of us children, grandchildren of refugees who fled oppression and inspired demmiblue Nov 2019 #123
started thread 2 Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #126
Wanted to splice in Vindman's comments about the lack of Burisma Mersky Nov 2019 #136

crickets

(25,896 posts)
11. Glad Schiff went through the rules a bit beforehand
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:10 AM
Nov 2019

Good morning, everyone! Thanks for the thread, BumRushDaShow !

BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
15. Am glad the zoo keepers didn't start interrupting with nonsense parliamentary inquiries
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:11 AM
Nov 2019

before he started!!

And good morning!!

BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
17. Schiff is giving his opening statement
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:12 AM
Nov 2019


(will try to find that blog site I found last week where someone was summarizing as the hearings went along)
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
95. I do...always forget about wonkette. Love the header
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:46 AM
Nov 2019

Let's Watch Republicans Sh*t On A Guy With A Purple Heart! (Impeachment Liveblog, Day Three!)

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Response to klook (Reply #81)

Response to WhoWoodaKnew (Reply #127)

question everything

(47,271 posts)
22. Not that they deserve it, but it does grate when Schiff says Trump, Guiliani
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:15 AM
Nov 2019

He should preface with Mr. Just an observation...

crickets

(25,896 posts)
29. Wow, Nunes is actually going for the
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:20 AM
Nov 2019

"don't believe what you see and hear, just believe what I tell you!" defense.

spanone

(135,636 posts)
30. nunes immediately defends trump....what a pathetic 'human'
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:20 AM
Nov 2019

republicans don't care one whit about getting to any truth

nunes says ALL THE MEDIA is after trump 'puppets of the democratic party'

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
34. Going on about mueller and Russian collusion saying it was all false
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:22 AM
Nov 2019

Which of course is all lies

And DOESNT MATTER IN THIS CASE!

Botany

(70,291 posts)
71. I walked away and posted the cow picture after he started to blather some kind of conspiracy crap
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:32 AM
Nov 2019

So the democrats, the media, and the whistle blower all got together and made up this stuff
about Trump and the Ukraine and.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................

catbyte

(34,174 posts)
42. Yeah, mooman, it's "the media's" fault. Utterly pathetic. They got nuthin" & I think the
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:24 AM
Nov 2019

polls are showing most Americans are getting tired of it. It got old real fast.

gademocrat7

(10,623 posts)
43. Nunes is a pathological liar.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:25 AM
Nov 2019

Good grief. The rethugs have nothing. Just lying and trying to distort the facts.

BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
83. And he insisted the discredited story be introduced into the record
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:41 AM
Nov 2019


The Hill: We Are ‘Reviewing’ and ‘Updating’ John Solomon’s Ukraine Columns

Justin Baragona

Contributor
Published Nov. 18, 2019 10:01AM ET

A day after conservative columnist John Solomon claimed political newspaper The Hill stood by his reporting as he threatened to sue his critics, Editor in Chief Bob Cusack informed Hill staffers that the paper was reviewing and updating Solomon’s columns. With Solomon’s Ukraine-related columns coming under fire during impeachment testimony, Cusack said in an email that even though Solomon left The Hill earlier this fall it was taking steps to scrutinize his articles. “Because of our dedication to accurate, nonpartisan reporting and standards, we are reviewing, updating, annotating with any denials of witnesses, and, when appropriate, correcting any opinion pieces referenced during the ongoing congressional testimony,” Cusack wrote. “As previously stated, the views expressed by contributors are their own and not the views of The Hill.” Following complaints from staffers about his reporting, Solomon was moved to The Hill’s opinion side in the spring of 2018. Cusack concluded his email by referencing Solomon’s tendency to send full-drafts of his columns to allies prior to publication. “We reiterate that we do not condone sending material out before publication,” he wrote.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-hill-we-are-reviewing-and-updating-john-solomons-ukraine-columns

crickets

(25,896 posts)
47. Nunes is claiming the whistleblower and "democrats" have coordinated
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:26 AM
Nov 2019

together; that they are in a conspiracy together. Accuses whisleblower of contacting media. Asking the whistleblower all sorts of leading nonsense questions that he already knows the answers to. Doubling down on the LIE that Ukraine is responsible for election meddling. Isn't there some sort of rule about lying this way?

Now talking about Solomon and the Hill, pretending poor Johnny S. is being picked on. He's telling people to go read Solomon and make up their own minds. Now he's defending Vogel too. Apparently journalistic integrity is a bad thing.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
50. I hate it when they say Hunter had no qualifications
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:27 AM
Nov 2019

Yale Law degree, job in prestigious law firm and several business activities.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
51. MOOnes putting all his eggs in the John Solomon / Ken Vogel basket
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:27 AM
Nov 2019

Solomon is worse than a hack and Vogel is now disgraced

Now he’s on Hunter again

Again: IRRELEVANT

ancianita

(35,813 posts)
52. Puppet Nunes arrogantly tells Americans what they saw. Disgusting attempt to manipulate perception.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:27 AM
Nov 2019

Just like his puppet boss, MF45.

ancianita

(35,813 posts)
139. The supreme evil is that Nunes tells Americans to deny what they hear right before THE eyewitness
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:16 AM
Nov 2019

hearer testifies under oath about what he actually heard.

Americans will stop listening to Nunes after today.

mnhtnbb

(31,319 posts)
53. I thought I'd give listening to Nunes a chance
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:27 AM
Nov 2019

But he hadn't spoken for less than a minute when I pushed the mute button.

Damn. Republicans do not learn. They just keep up with their lies and BS.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
58. lol @ democrat puppets.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:29 AM
Nov 2019

Nunes said Hunter Biden had no experience. lol. Oh and Ivanka and Jerrad has foreign policy experience? lol

SamKnause

(13,043 posts)
59. Evil, evil fucking lying hypocrites.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:30 AM
Nov 2019

They LOVE republican nepotism !!!

Let's investigate the current administrations children.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
63. Didn't know this. Ms Williams worked on Bush/Cheney campaign
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:30 AM
Nov 2019

And she works on Pence’s staff

I’m sure she’ll be called deep state before long

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,433 posts)
66. So Nunes is entering all rw conspiracy theories on record: Ukraine meddled in 2016
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:31 AM
Nov 2019

Burisma, Bidens, Obama nada nada nada, attacking the media, fake news..same ole same ole mierda. What a pendejo!

[Nada: got nothing; nothing burger]
[mierda:caca or shite]
[Pendejo:idiot, sonso or stupido]

meow2u3

(24,745 posts)
99. Crackpot conspiracy theories are all the repukes have got
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:47 AM
Nov 2019

Trump's conduct is absolutely indefensible, so they have to concoct a loony CT out of whole cloth because they're acting as Trump's flying monkeys.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
68. Trump has called Jennifer Williams a 'never Trumper'
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:32 AM
Nov 2019

I bet Trump will call for her firing asap. He will make Pence fire her.

Response to SummerSnow (Reply #68)

Pacifist Patriot

(24,647 posts)
118. I have a feeling Ms. Williams is chomping at the bit to testify.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:56 AM
Nov 2019

She's career FSO and clearly upset about what has transpired.

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
73. Trump is having a meltdown...
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:35 AM
Nov 2019

He wants to tweet about Jennifer Williams so so bad. Do you think he will tweet about her ?

crickets

(25,896 posts)
79. I hope someone gathered up all his phones
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:39 AM
Nov 2019

because you know he wants to tweet responses to the hearing SO BADLY.

ffr

(22,649 posts)
141. From what I've read, Williams will disclose Pence's call content behind closed door testimony
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:06 PM
Nov 2019

Pence must be shitting bricks!

BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
142. Yes - she said she would be willing to testify in a closed-door "classified" setting
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 12:08 PM
Nov 2019

and Schiff offered that she could do so in writing too if she wished.

BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
94. Vindman just announced his brother was there with him today
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:46 AM
Nov 2019

Awwww...

(I thought I may have heard him call him his "little brother" - i.e., if he did, then he popped out first )

crickets

(25,896 posts)
96. Aw, Vindman mentions his 'little brother' in his statement, so cute
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:46 AM
Nov 2019

His story about his family and his message to his Dad at the end is so touching.

crickets

(25,896 posts)
101. Schiff has clearly explained the rule Stefanik
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:47 AM
Nov 2019

broke last week, so there are no excuses for interruptions today. Ha!

catbyte

(34,174 posts)
102. I feel so bad for Vindman. You can tell this is the last thing he wants to be doing.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:47 AM
Nov 2019

Fucking petty tyrant wannabe infesting the White House.

BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
103. Lawyer for Williams is saying Pence claimed the testimony of the call is "classified"
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:48 AM
Nov 2019

on behalf of Pence.

BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
128. Apparently this was related to Pence's call with Zelensky
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:00 AM
Nov 2019


(I don't think any transcript was released for that)

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
133. ah....surely the VP's call was "classified" while the one the POTUS was on was not.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:07 AM
Nov 2019

makes perfect sense

crickets

(25,896 posts)
105. Oh here we go: Pence has decided his phone call is classified.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:49 AM
Nov 2019

Jerks, it's not like the call really was classified, or that testimony will not be given. So transparent.

crickets

(25,896 posts)
119. Question: why would OMB review funds to see if they
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:56 AM
Nov 2019

were in line w/policy after the funds were already voted upon and released by Congress? Is that normal?

BumRushDaShow

(127,312 posts)
125. Usually there are reviews that go on
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:58 AM
Nov 2019

but from what I gathered last week was that the primary review by DOD (due to most of this being for military-related stuff) had already been done back the previous May so really, there wasn't a need for further review.

demmiblue

(36,751 posts)
123. Col. Vindman is everyone of us children, grandchildren of refugees who fled oppression and inspired
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:57 AM
Nov 2019
Col. Vindman is everyone of us children, grandchildren of refugees who fled oppression and inspired us to uphold the rule of law in their honor. So grateful to him.



Hermit-The-Prog

(33,041 posts)
126. started thread 2
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:59 AM
Nov 2019

Beginning to take a while to load this one, so I started a 2nd thread.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212703086

(Don't know the protocol; lemme know if I should delete)

Mersky

(4,969 posts)
136. Wanted to splice in Vindman's comments about the lack of Burisma
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:12 AM
Nov 2019

Being mentioned by name in the publicly released transcript for the July 25th call.

He said that it was his “informed speculation” that the people who make the transcripts didn’t capture the word Burisma. That he wanted the record to be complete according to his notes from the call.

(This post is about ten ish minutes late, but falls about here in the order of things.)

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