***IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY HEARING NOV 19 THREAD 1***

[BumRushDaShow]

[BumRushDaShow]

1. About to get started...

[Mersky]

2. Good morning! Kick!

[SKKY]

3. Vindman is not in his uniform. I think the optics are better if he is.

[BumRushDaShow]

5. Yeah he is!

[rzemanfl]

21. ?

[BumRushDaShow]

4. Vindman is entering...

[SKKY]

6. Nevermind. I thought I saw him in a suit, but it was apparently someone else.

[BumRushDaShow]

7. Could have been a lawyer?

[SKKY]

10. Probably, but if so, there is a lawyer who looks just like Vindman.

[irisblue]

35. His twin brother is a lawyer

[SKKY]

120. I had no idea he had a twin brother. That perhaps explains it then.

[BumRushDaShow]

69. What irisblue said - Vindman has a twin!!!

They were adorable as kids!!!

[crickets]

72. Aww.

[BumRushDaShow]

8. Here comes Jennifer Williams

(correction from Fiona Hill)

[Mersky]

16. Is Jennifer Williams

Had to check the schedule myself.

[BumRushDaShow]

18. Yes thank you - will correct my post!!

[Mersky]

88. Is all I can do to keep track. We'll juggle it all together.

Thanks for the thread!

[BumRushDaShow]

91. You are welcome and thank you for helping me fix it!

[BumRushDaShow]

9. Adam Schiff has gavelled in and will do his opening statement.

[crickets]

11. Glad Schiff went through the rules a bit beforehand

Good morning, everyone! Thanks for the thread, BumRushDaShow !

[BumRushDaShow]

15. Am glad the zoo keepers didn't start interrupting with nonsense parliamentary inquiries

before he started!!

And good morning!!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

90. Good. Brought that up last week and was flamed for it.

[NewJeffCT]

12. Thank you for these threads

from somebody in the office who can't stream video.

[BumRushDaShow]

17. Schiff is giving his opening statement

(will try to find that blog site I found last week where someone was summarizing as the hearings went along)

[crickets]

23. If you don't mind irreverence, Wonkette has been posting live blogs:

https://www.wonkette.com/lets-watch-republicans-sh-t-on-a-guy-with-a-purple-heart-impeachment-liveblog-day-three

[BumRushDaShow]

25. LOL

[Laura PourMeADrink]

95. I do...always forget about wonkette. Love the header

Let's Watch Republicans Sh*t On A Guy With A Purple Heart! (Impeachment Liveblog, Day Three!)

[BumRushDaShow]

24. Here is the place I found last week that was live-blogging the hearings

https://globalnews.ca/news/6185264/live-impeachment-hearings-week-2/

They are doing this one too!

[dalton99a]

13. Kick

[spanone]

14. ...and away we go!!!!!

[Mike 03]

19. Nobody interrupted Schiff with a bogus point of order.

We're making progress.

[klook]

81. Investigating corruption, of course!

How to do more of it, that is.

[WhoWoodaKnew]

127. He's crafting trumpcare.

[question everything]

22. Not that they deserve it, but it does grate when Schiff says Trump, Guiliani

He should preface with Mr. Just an observation...

[BumRushDaShow]

26. MOO MOO is up - MUTE alert!

[malaise]

27. A few words for Nunes

Boooooooooo and Moooooooooooo!
Away with your cow manure

[Roland99]

28. Schiff goes there. Brings up extortion and bribery!

[Roland99]

32. Subsequently, MOOnes lying outright that media reports did not match claims in hearings

[crickets]

29. Wow, Nunes is actually going for the

"don't believe what you see and hear, just believe what I tell you!" defense.

[spanone]

30. nunes immediately defends trump....what a pathetic 'human'

republicans don't care one whit about getting to any truth

nunes says ALL THE MEDIA is after trump 'puppets of the democratic party'

[mobeau69]

31. Dickhead Nunes attacking media.

Fuck him.

[Roland99]

34. Going on about mueller and Russian collusion saying it was all false

Which of course is all lies

And DOESNT MATTER IN THIS CASE!

[The Blue Flower]

33. Nunes: Who you gonna believe--me or your lying eyes?

Everyone's lying but us!

[BumRushDaShow]

36. MooMoo ranting about the whistleblower

[Roland99]

39. Objection! Irrelevant

[SamKnause]

37. Russian hoax, Russian hoax.

I wish they would burst into flames when they deny the facts.

[Botany]

38. Devin!

[ChubbyStar]

61. He is a one trick cow

[Botany]

71. I walked away and posted the cow picture after he started to blather some kind of conspiracy crap

So the democrats, the media, and the whistle blower all got together and made up this stuff
about Trump and the Ukraine and.......................................................................................................................................................................................................................

[ismnotwasm]

40. Nunes "everything is a conspiracy"

And “The media” is evil.

[Mersky]

41. Gah, this is a lot of galloping for one cow.

Good grief, Nunes.

[catbyte]

42. Yeah, mooman, it's "the media's" fault. Utterly pathetic. They got nuthin" & I think the

polls are showing most Americans are getting tired of it. It got old real fast.

[gademocrat7]

43. Nunes is a pathological liar.

Good grief. The rethugs have nothing. Just lying and trying to distort the facts.

[OKNancy]

44. Nunes is going full nut ball conspiracy

Including Solomon's discredited reporting

[BumRushDaShow]

45. MooMoo telling people to read the discredited Solomon story that even the Hill has backed away from.

[Mike 03]

65. That was stunning.

Talk about running into a blind alleyway. What a fool Nunes is!

[BumRushDaShow]

83. And he insisted the discredited story be introduced into the record

The Hill: We Are ‘Reviewing’ and ‘Updating’ John Solomon’s Ukraine Columns

Justin Baragona

Contributor
Published Nov. 18, 2019 10:01AM ET

A day after conservative columnist John Solomon claimed political newspaper The Hill stood by his reporting as he threatened to sue his critics, Editor in Chief Bob Cusack informed Hill staffers that the paper was reviewing and updating Solomon’s columns. With Solomon’s Ukraine-related columns coming under fire during impeachment testimony, Cusack said in an email that even though Solomon left The Hill earlier this fall it was taking steps to scrutinize his articles. “Because of our dedication to accurate, nonpartisan reporting and standards, we are reviewing, updating, annotating with any denials of witnesses, and, when appropriate, correcting any opinion pieces referenced during the ongoing congressional testimony,” Cusack wrote. “As previously stated, the views expressed by contributors are their own and not the views of The Hill.” Following complaints from staffers about his reporting, Solomon was moved to The Hill’s opinion side in the spring of 2018. Cusack concluded his email by referencing Solomon’s tendency to send full-drafts of his columns to allies prior to publication. “We reiterate that we do not condone sending material out before publication,” he wrote.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-hill-we-are-reviewing-and-updating-john-solomons-ukraine-columns

[Whiskeytide]

46. If the WB is in witness protection, doesn't ...

... that make the repubs the Mob? Nice analogy Dev.

[BumRushDaShow]

55. They embrace their mobbery!

[crickets]

47. Nunes is claiming the whistleblower and "democrats" have coordinated

together; that they are in a conspiracy together. Accuses whisleblower of contacting media. Asking the whistleblower all sorts of leading nonsense questions that he already knows the answers to. Doubling down on the LIE that Ukraine is responsible for election meddling. Isn't there some sort of rule about lying this way?

Now talking about Solomon and the Hill, pretending poor Johnny S. is being picked on. He's telling people to go read Solomon and make up their own minds. Now he's defending Vogel too. Apparently journalistic integrity is a bad thing.

[ancianita]

60. The lies are sickening.

[padah513]

48. Thanks for the thread BumRushDaShow

[BumRushDaShow]

78. You are welcome!

[SummerSnow]

49. How many times will the Rethugs say Obama and Hilary?

I will drink more ice tea if they do.lol

[WhoWoodaKnew]

138. I hope it's from Long Island.

[OKNancy]

50. I hate it when they say Hunter had no qualifications

Yale Law degree, job in prestigious law firm and several business activities.

[Roland99]

51. MOOnes putting all his eggs in the John Solomon / Ken Vogel basket

Solomon is worse than a hack and Vogel is now disgraced

Now he’s on Hunter again

Again: IRRELEVANT

[ancianita]

52. Puppet Nunes arrogantly tells Americans what they saw. Disgusting attempt to manipulate perception.

Just like his puppet boss, MF45.

[crickets]

74. *ding!* Right on point. Chilling. nt

[ancianita]

139. The supreme evil is that Nunes tells Americans to deny what they hear right before THE eyewitness

hearer testifies under oath about what he actually heard.

Americans will stop listening to Nunes after today.

[mnhtnbb]

53. I thought I'd give listening to Nunes a chance

But he hadn't spoken for less than a minute when I pushed the mute button.

Damn. Republicans do not learn. They just keep up with their lies and BS.

[elleng]

54. lapdog nunes hoping to be paid; by WHOM, tho?

[Mersky]

64. Firtash, et al sounds about right.

[BumRushDaShow]

56. MooMoo is done - Schiff now introducing the witnesses with a brief bio

[Arkansas Granny]

57. Hunter Biden, Hunter Biden, Hunter Biden!!!! Who, exactly, is being impeached?

[SummerSnow]

58. lol @ democrat puppets.

Nunes said Hunter Biden had no experience. lol. Oh and Ivanka and Jerrad has foreign policy experience? lol

[SamKnause]

59. Evil, evil fucking lying hypocrites.

They LOVE republican nepotism !!!

Let's investigate the current administrations children.

[BumRushDaShow]

62. Both have now been sworn in and Jennifer Williams will start first with opening statement

[Roland99]

63. Didn't know this. Ms Williams worked on Bush/Cheney campaign

And she works on Pence’s staff

I’m sure she’ll be called deep state before long

[RestoreAmerica2020]

66. So Nunes is entering all rw conspiracy theories on record: Ukraine meddled in 2016

Burisma, Bidens, Obama nada nada nada, attacking the media, fake news..same ole same ole mierda. What a pendejo!

[Nada: got nothing; nothing burger]
[mierda:caca or shite]
[Pendejo:idiot, sonso or stupido]

[meow2u3]

99. Crackpot conspiracy theories are all the repukes have got

Trump's conduct is absolutely indefensible, so they have to concoct a loony CT out of whole cloth because they're acting as Trump's flying monkeys.

[BumRushDaShow]

67. OMG Williams said that Carolina Rice was a hero

[SummerSnow]

68. Trump has called Jennifer Williams a 'never Trumper'

I bet Trump will call for her firing asap. He will make Pence fire her.

[BumRushDaShow]

75. She probably knows that...

[Pacifist Patriot]

114. No, that's Pence's press secretary, Katie Waldman.

[irisblue]

115. Whoa, was I wrong. Thx

[Pacifist Patriot]

118. I have a feeling Ms. Williams is chomping at the bit to testify.

She's career FSO and clearly upset about what has transpired.

[malaise]

70. She served in Kingston, Jamaica

[SummerSnow]

73. Trump is having a meltdown...

He wants to tweet about Jennifer Williams so so bad. Do you think he will tweet about her ?

[crickets]

79. I hope someone gathered up all his phones

because you know he wants to tweet responses to the hearing SO BADLY.

[BumRushDaShow]

84. Or at least set up one of those jamming devices nearby

[tblue37]

134. I hope he does tweet. It damages him when he does. nt

[crickets]

140. Yup. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

76. LOL Sounds like she is trying to shield Pence

[ffr]

141. From what I've read, Williams will disclose Pence's call content behind closed door testimony

Pence must be shitting bricks!

[BumRushDaShow]

142. Yes - she said she would be willing to testify in a closed-door "classified" setting

and Schiff offered that she could do so in writing too if she wished.

[BumRushDaShow]

77. Vindman up with opening statement

[Botany]

80. Both Vindman & Williams are very good

But they still have Moo-unes and Gym Jacket-off

[blaze]

82. Vindman's prepared statement:

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/19/politics/alexander-vindman-opening-remarks-impeachment-hearing/index.html

[True Blue American]

86. Vindman just buried Sondland and Trump.

[BumRushDaShow]

87. Thank you!

[dalton99a]

108. +1

[hlthe2b]

135. Very strong statement, esp. the closing. thanks

[OldManTarHeel]

85. Anyone Wanna Guess What Time Today that Trump Returns to Walter Reed

[Mike 03]

93. Good one!

[Happy Hoosier]

97. Vindman killed it. Especially that closing bit. NT

[crickets]

122. +1

[ancianita]

98. Reporting back through his implant to his puppet masters for instructions.

[BumRushDaShow]

89. Vindman excoriating others who have attacked those who testified

[BumRushDaShow]

94. Vindman just announced his brother was there with him today

Awwww...

(I thought I may have heard him call him his "little brother" - i.e., if he did, then he popped out first )

[Staph]

110. He mentioned that he has two brothers.

So maybe this is the not-twin brother.

[BumRushDaShow]

112. Okay - and I think I heard Schiff later mention something about the family

[crickets]

96. Aw, Vindman mentions his 'little brother' in his statement, so cute

His story about his family and his message to his Dad at the end is so touching.

[BumRushDaShow]

100. Now starting the 45 minute questions periods, Schiff starting and then going to counsel

[crickets]

101. Schiff has clearly explained the rule Stefanik

broke last week, so there are no excuses for interruptions today. Ha!

[catbyte]

102. I feel so bad for Vindman. You can tell this is the last thing he wants to be doing.

Fucking petty tyrant wannabe infesting the White House.

[BumRushDaShow]

103. Lawyer for Williams is saying Pence claimed the testimony of the call is "classified"

on behalf of Pence.

[Roland99]

124. The "perfect" call that had most its transcript released by the WH??

[BumRushDaShow]

128. Apparently this was related to Pence's call with Zelensky

(I don't think any transcript was released for that)

[Roland99]

133. ah....surely the VP's call was "classified" while the one the POTUS was on was not.

makes perfect sense

[BumRushDaShow]

137. ...

(TupPence had his lawyer tell her lawyer to keep that whole thing under wraps )

[onecaliberal]

104. Williams counsel refuses to allow her to answer questions.

[crickets]

105. Oh here we go: Pence has decided his phone call is classified.

Jerks, it's not like the call really was classified, or that testimony will not be given. So transparent.

[BumRushDaShow]

106. Willaims willing to appear (or submit in writing) to provide info for a "classified" later session.

[polichick]

107. Where is Pence, the weasel, hiding these days?

[ffr]

143. On mother's bosom

Sucking his thumb and pouting.

[BumRushDaShow]

109. Schiff asked about whether corruption was mentioned at April call (to Vindman) - answer no.

[BumRushDaShow]

111. Schiff question to Williams about Drumpf telling Pence not to go to the Ukraine inauguration

[mucifer]

113. Vindman is excellent!

[BumRushDaShow]

116. Schiff bringing up July 10 meeting and Mulvaney

[JHB]

117. Ready!

Support the artist: Give the original a click:
https://www.gocomics.com/mo/2019/11/18

[crickets]

119. Question: why would OMB review funds to see if they

were in line w/policy after the funds were already voted upon and released by Congress? Is that normal?

[BumRushDaShow]

125. Usually there are reviews that go on

but from what I gathered last week was that the primary review by DOD (due to most of this being for military-related stuff) had already been done back the previous May so really, there wasn't a need for further review.

[crickets]

129. Got it - Thanks!

[ancianita]

132. No. There's no policy to review or withhold funds. Mulvaney withheld funds on MF45's order.

[crickets]

144. That's what I thought. I'm sure that will be covered in more detail in later testimony. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

121. ***IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY HEARING NOV 19 THREAD 2*** IS UP

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212703086

[demmiblue]

123. Col. Vindman is everyone of us children, grandchildren of refugees who fled oppression and inspired

Col. Vindman is everyone of us children, grandchildren of refugees who fled oppression and inspired us to uphold the rule of law in their honor. So grateful to him.

Link to tweet

[Hermit-The-Prog]

126. started thread 2

Beginning to take a while to load this one, so I started a 2nd thread.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212703086

(Don't know the protocol; lemme know if I should delete)

[Mersky]

136. Wanted to splice in Vindman's comments about the lack of Burisma

Being mentioned by name in the publicly released transcript for the July 25th call.

He said that it was his “informed speculation” that the people who make the transcripts didn’t capture the word Burisma. That he wanted the record to be complete according to his notes from the call.

(This post is about ten ish minutes late, but falls about here in the order of things.)