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Just heard on MSNBC that Volker may be "amending" his deposition. (Original Post) maxrandb Nov 2019 OP
Cuz he lied on the first go round. Nevilledog Nov 2019 #1
Bingo on the Volker card! ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #5
Between that and the way they were using Morrison to bash dewsgirl Nov 2019 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #3
In the hearing? triron Nov 2019 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #9
Do you have any idea why? From now? dewsgirl Nov 2019 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #10
Thanks. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #13
Votes on the House Floor brooklynite Nov 2019 #14
Oh ok, I moved not to long ago, sometimes I forget I'm an hour behind. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #17
I do but I shouldn't try to elaborate. He evidently testified some things before that have since triron Nov 2019 #4
I can hear Urkel: "Did I say that?" gratuitous Nov 2019 #8
This article may provide some clues Mike 03 Nov 2019 #11
From Ryan Goodman at Just Security asiliveandbreathe Nov 2019 #12
Can't stomach falling on his sword for the likes of Cheeto Hitler BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #15
Probably has something to do with him not wanting to go to jail for perjury StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #16
Update... brooklynite Nov 2019 #18
May the "ice" crack........... MyOwnPeace Nov 2019 #19

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
2. Between that and the way they were using Morrison to bash
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 04:16 PM
Nov 2019

Vindman this morning, it should be an interesting afternoon.

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triron

(21,984 posts)
4. I do but I shouldn't try to elaborate. He evidently testified some things before that have since
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 04:17 PM
Nov 2019

been contradicted by other reliable witnesses.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
11. This article may provide some clues
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 04:21 PM
Nov 2019

Link: https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/trumps-ukraine-envoy-may-have-lied-to-congress-more-than-a-dozen-times-law-professor/

Rawstory

Trump’s Ukraine envoy may have lied to Congress more than a dozen times: Law professor

Unfortunately for the GOP, and for Volker, law professor and former Pentagon special counsel Ryan Goodman laid out a 60-page-long, side-by-side comparison of Volker’s testimony with that of several other diplomats and national security officials — and highlighted at least thirteen points where Volker may have lied to Congress.

For example, Volker wrote in his opening statement that “[A]t no time was I aware of or took part in an effort to urge Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Biden.” But the testimony of State Department officials William Taylor, David Holmes, and George Kent, EU Ambassador Gordon Sondland, and National Security Council officials Tim Morrison and Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman all referenced Volker, at various points, as actively involved in the effort to get Ukraine to open investigations.


Volker also did not disclose to Congress that he was a member of the July 10 White House meeting with Ukrainian officials — but the testimony of Taylor, Vindman, and NSC aide Fiona Hill all put him in that meeting.

Volker said that he believed there was a valid reason for the hold on Ukrainian aid and that “he did not perceive” it to be linked to an investigation of the Bidens “in any way.” But Taylor testified that Volker suggested to him that Trump, being a businessman, felt Ukraine owed him something personally. He also said that Volker announced his intention to tell the Ukrainian president at their July 2 meeting in Toronto to cooperate on investigations if he wanted a White House meeting — something Volker never disclosed in his account of that exchange.

On the issue of Rudy Giuliani’s involvement in foreign policy, Volker told the House Intelligence Committee, “He is the President’s personal attorney. I don’t know whether he was representing the President or whether he was doing his own things to try to be helpful to the President.” But in a supplemental declaration, Sondland testified that Trump “directed Ambassador Volker, Secretary Perry, and me, on May 23, 2019, to discuss issues related to the President’s concerns about Ukraine,” and that all of them, Volker included, “understood that satisfying Mr. Giuliani was a condition for scheduling the White House visit, which we all strongly believed to be in the mutual interest of the United States and Ukraine.”


More at link above.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
12. From Ryan Goodman at Just Security
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 04:22 PM
Nov 2019

Introduction by Ryan Goodman:

Ambassador Kurt Volker faces a serious credibility problem for having denied knowledge or involvement in President Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani’s efforts to press Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden.

He also appears to have lied about a crucial July 10 meeting at the White House and other related matters. Volker faces a serious legal liability problem too.


He made these apparent false statements to Congress in his deposition under penalty of law. The Chart below presents detailed information comparing Volker’s testimony to the testimony of at least eleven other current and former U.S. officials whose statements contradict what Volker told Congress.


https://www.justsecurity.org/67314/chart-side-by-side-comparison-of-kurt-volkers-vs-other-witnesses-testimony-in-impeachment-inquiry/
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