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Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 08:48 PM Nov 2019

Yovonovich told Ukraine it could not investigate Burisma? Where that that come from?

The Trump lover in our bridge group brought it up but I can't find that she was questioned about this in the impeachment hearings. did I miss something? Anyone know where this came from?

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Yovonovich told Ukraine it could not investigate Burisma? Where that that come from? (Original Post) Hamlette Nov 2019 OP
probably Fox "News" Skittles Nov 2019 #1
Hazard to guess - some Republican's ass BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #2
Per her wikipedia page, she's very anti-corruption. Dennis Donovan Nov 2019 #3
Did you ask her to prove her claim? mcar Nov 2019 #4
I asked her to prove another claim Hamlette Nov 2019 #10
I live in Red world mcar Nov 2019 #11
I live in a red state Hamlette Nov 2019 #12
From the Department of Making Shit Up CanonRay Nov 2019 #5
The Ukrainian mercuryblues Nov 2019 #6
Thanks, helps a lot Hamlette Nov 2019 #9
That was a false accusation spread by Giuliani, Don Jr., Fox in their smear campaign against her wishstar Nov 2019 #7
thanks Hamlette Nov 2019 #8

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
3. Per her wikipedia page, she's very anti-corruption.
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 09:05 PM
Nov 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Yovanovitch#Anti-corruption_work_and_other_activities

Anti-corruption work and other activities
Yovanovitch was respected within the national security community for her efforts to encourage Ukraine to tackle corruption, and during her tenure had sought to strengthen the Ukrainian National Anti-Corruption Bureau, which had been created to bolster efforts to fight corruption in Ukraine; these efforts earned Yovanovitch some enemies within the country. In a March 2019 speech to the Ukraine Crisis Media Center, Yovanovitch said that the Ukrainian government was not making sufficient progress to combat corruption, saying: "It is increasingly clear that Ukraine's once-in-a-generation opportunity for change has not yet resulted in the anti-corruption or rule of law reforms that Ukrainians expect or deserve."

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
10. I asked her to prove another claim
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:38 PM
Nov 2019

but having dealt with these nut cases all my life, my guess is she won't.

I told her I read the NYTimes, WashPost, Wall Street Journal and the local paper every day plus I watch 2 hours of news a day. She said she doesn't trust the NYTimes or WashPost because they lie. I told her to find me one lie in either paper that was not retracted.

She won't. But the Yovonovich caught me a tad off guard as it rang a faint bell but I couldn't remember exactly where that particular lie came from. Thanks to everyone here for telling me what I needed to know.

What I really need to do is not talk politics with her. She loves me because I am a good bridge player (and good company). But yuck. Her politics are so irrational.

mcar

(42,307 posts)
11. I live in Red world
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:00 PM
Nov 2019

so I get it completely. Many of my friends are either apolitical or Republican. We don't talk politics. But they are wonderful people. It makes me crazy most of the time.

I'm fortunate to have been part of forming a Democratic Women's Club in my county and through that, have met many like-minded people who have become friends. It gives me some balance.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
12. I live in a red state
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 11:52 PM
Nov 2019

but a blue city. Which was pretty red when I was young.

This woman is the only republican in the group. So I get lots of support for taking her on but it makes me crazy. I hate Trump but am sick when I think that 30% of my fellow Americans believe and love him.

mercuryblues

(14,531 posts)
6. The Ukrainian
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:13 PM
Nov 2019

prosecutor that got ousted made this claim. I think he claimed something along the lines of Yovonovich gave me a do not prosecute list. It was part of the smear to quickly remove her.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
9. Thanks, helps a lot
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:34 PM
Nov 2019

it is all coming back to me. Amazing what these people will believe. The bridge lady referred to Yovonovich as a bimbo and I almost lost my shit. And she is an MD. Shocking.

wishstar

(5,269 posts)
7. That was a false accusation spread by Giuliani, Don Jr., Fox in their smear campaign against her
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:18 PM
Nov 2019

To justify removing her, they (including corrupt Ukrainian) falsely claimed she had a list of entities that they shouldn't investigate.

Hamlette

(15,412 posts)
8. thanks
Tue Nov 19, 2019, 10:32 PM
Nov 2019

I have a very faint memory but couldn't place it. DH said something about Rudy calling Hannity and telling him about it so Hannity promptly made it a big deal.

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