Truthfully I only see 3 or 4 GOP Senators that would vote against him.

[edhopper]

Collins, Murkowski and Romney. And maybe one or two long timers who might. There are 3 Senators not running again, but I wouldn't count on them either.
The rest are too far gone to turn on Trump.

So 3 defections means a 50-50 tie.(That is only if we can count on Manchin)

Even though it takes 2/3, I would love enough voting against the traitor to give conviction a majority of some sort. Just so he can't say he was "exonerated".But I am not optimistic.

I am just thinking out loud, I fully support impeachment in the House.

[Wounded Bear]

1. Tie would be meaningless...

other than he couldn't brag about full partisanship. Need 67 to out him.

Would be nice to see some Repubs rebel and vote a conscience.

[edhopper]

2. I know it needs 2/3

but a clear majority would stop him from arguing he was exonerated.

He will still say it, but it would be easily refuted.

[nykym]

3. a 2/3rds majority is needed

for impeachment, so a 50/50 vote is kinda a moot point.
Pence can't do shit!

[Proud Liberal Dem]

4. I would like it so

Trump can't claim "complete and total exoneration" as well. Although, frankly, I'm not sure what actual value there is of an acquittal of a Republican President by a Republican-controlled Senate.


Bill Clinton's acquittal in the Senate in 1998-1999 by a (hostile) Republican Senate seems like it would have mattered more.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Pence gets to vote in the Senate only if there is a tie, and there won't be,

because you need 2/3 of all senators present, which is 67. In fact, I don't think the VP has any role at all in an impeachment trial.

[edhopper]

10. good point

I'll edit that.

[lastlib]

13. Pence won't get to vote on conviction. He is replaced as presiding officer by CJ.

Only the Senators can vote.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

14. That's what I thought. A VP's only constitutional function,

apart from taking over for a dead president, is to break ties in the Senate. In Pence's case, his only other job is to gaze adoringly at Dear Leader.

[lettucebe]

15. I read Pence can not be tiebreaker vote in an impeachment

[ritapria]

6. Cory Garner might vote to convict as well

He is facing an uphill battle for re-election ……..Susan Collins is no doubt "very, very concerned " about the testimony of Sondland .. Romney is trying to screw up the courage to come out against Trump but I doubt he will ……..Ditto for Manchin

[customerserviceguy]

12. Susan Collins won't do this

She knows that any GOP support for her would vanish in Maine. They're already ticked off at her for taking so long to back Kavanaugh.

[FM123]

7. We need 20 repub senators to vote with us.

I found an article by Elie Mystal (editor of Above The Law) who seems to think that as unlikely as it is, just could happen if we rattle a few cages....


https://www.thenation.com/article/impeachment-senate-republicans/

[Stargleamer]

8. It could still embarrass him badly

if the majority in the Senate vote to convict him, even if it doesn't reach 67, but 51 instead, with Collins , Murkowski, Romney, and Garner voting with the Democrats, and Manchin not fucking up

[WhiteTara]

9. I don't think VP can vote in impeachment

but I'm often wrong. Sorry, I just spilled honey on my keyboard and it's getting hard to type.

[edhopper]

11. True

I had this wrong and edited my post.