***IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY HEARING NOV 20 THREAD 6***

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Other streams: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212688024#post9

NYT Live Updates: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/20/us/politics/impeachment-hearings.html
Global News Canada Live: https://globalnews.ca/news/6189777/live-trump-impeachment-hearings-sondland-day-4/
Wonkette Live: https://www.wonkette.com/the-gordon-problem-impeachment-liveblog-day-four

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1. Bump

[sheshe2]

2. Kick

Thanks, crickets.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

4. that's mean

Don't be kickin' crickets. Bad luck.

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7. ...

[BumRushDaShow]

3. Was just checking back - Schiff is back in the chair and people are returning!

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5. Sondland seated now. About to start!

Expected to be a two hour questioning period.

[malaise]

6. Here we go

again

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8. Sondland back in the room. Schiff about to start with 5 minute questions.

[BumRushDaShow]

9. Schiff - clarifies about the OMB person (Sandy)

He is still reviewing the transcript. Schiff saying that the REAL OMB appointees REFUSED to testify.

[madaboutharry]

10. Making it clear that Nunes is a liar.

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12. It's sad how many times during each hearing Schiff has to do that. nt

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11. Schiff housekeeping: saying that Saturday deposition transcript from Sandy / OMB not out yet

but available soon. Vought and Duffy - higher ups at OMB - have been called to testify and have refused to show up.


corrected sp

[BumRushDaShow]

13. MOO MOO handed off to Ratfucker (R-TX) - MUTE

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14. I want nothing...

Link to tweet

[Roland99]

15. Ratlick and MOOnes could be brothers

Ratlick harping on the GS testimony that trump did not explicitly condition the ask and aid withholding

[Siwsan]

16. Perhaps they are from the same, distant planet.

Just a theory.

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17. OMG question about Drumpf telling him to do something "improper" & whether he would refuse to do it

WTF? Both Drumpf an Sondland were never in the government and refuse to learn anything about government "ethics".

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18. Jim Himes (D-CT) up

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20. Ouch! Pointing out that Sondland's restaurant call is likely

fully transcribed by several intelligence agencies, including our own. There will be a transcript eventually. So! What, again, did the president say he didn't give a fig about wrt Ukraine?

eta - did Sondland just get caught in a lie?

[Rustynaerduwell]

19. Donald Trump: "What does 2 plus 2 equal?"

Everybody around him: "4".
Sondland: "I never heard the President say '4'"

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21. Himes trying to get him to nail Drumpf.

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22. Jordan yelling

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26. I have 2 room humidifiers on and STILL had to turn the damn sound down on him

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39. Hope he pisses Sondland off and he has...

"You cant handle tge truth!" And just lay it ALL out.

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50. LOL

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51. Theres still time

Lol....he'll get yielded to again.

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56. I'm sure!

[sheshe2]

30. And doing another speed read.

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23. Conaway yields his time to GYMSUIT - MUTE ALERT

[Roland99]

24. Gym anxiously asking when did Zelensky make the announcement

Never did

But won’t go into why not. Because whistleblower report came out

[Roland99]

27. Omg. Someone slap the shit out of Gym

Hate this fucker

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

25. Gym Jordan thinks talking fast and loud makes him look smart

[essme]

32. I cannot stand to listen to him talk

He sounds like a deranged middle school coach

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35. ...

[pandr32]

67. Perfect!

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72. That's all they have!

[The Figment]

36. Gish Galloping Asshole is he ( in my best Yoda voice) nt

[demmiblue]

28. OMFG... calm down.

[MuseRider]

48. He has that annoying, nasal voice

a bit high pitched and he is one of those guys who will blow out a bunch of nonsense and the look at the person with that odd challenge to be smarter than he is and be able to answer. He is such a fucking nothing, they all look and talk like that when they are fucking nothings.

Loud, annoying comment......long, direct stare with a slight smile, one of satisfaction because he thinks he always gets them.

[Bayard]

29. Someone please put a jacket and a muzzle on Jordan

[sheshe2]

37. Make that a straight jacket!

[Siwsan]

40. How about a straight jacket, and a muzzle

[Politicub]

49. He has the cadence of a generic southern baptist preacher

A lot of them are con artists, too.

[nolabear]

31. Oh Jordan, you're so cute. It's weasel on weasel.

[polichick]

33. Schiff should tell Jordan to stop screeching.

[nolabear]

34. Was that talking point photo a ms to Jordan?

He just directly quoted it.

[Roland99]

42. That's exactly what that stunt was

“I’m innocent. I didn’t do nuthin”

Like a criminal would ever admit they did anything wrong??

Get trump under oath and let’s see what he says

[Roland99]

38. Gym being very hostile. Asking GS why he didn't put trump "I want nothing" in opening stmt

[Mersky]

41. "The meeting that never happened - who was there?"

Actually hollered, or rather quacked, by Gym.

[gristy]

43. What a piece of work

Gym Jordan. OMFG.

Every one of these guys are working on the 2020 senate election. That is the only thing that's going on. They are giving cover to every one of the clueless republican voters to vote for their republican.

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44. GYMSUIT MUZZLED. Terri Sewell (D-AL) up

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52. I am glad she is calling him on the difference

between what he was willing to say in his opening statement vs in his testimony.

eta also pointing out that TAYLOR was the amb Ukraine and Sondand EU, so why was Taylor out of the loop if they were all using official channels? Oh, and what about Rudy? She is going after him.

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64. Exactly.

Bypassing the Ambassador (and her replacement Taylor) of Ukraine when it comes to decision making.

Sondland knows they were doing bullshit stuff but he is carefully weaseling around to try to justify not perjuring himself.

[Rustynaerduwell]

46. OMG Jordan just quoted Trumps handwritten talking points verbatim!

It's like he had the same piece of paper in front of him that Trump was holding.

[madaboutharry]

47. Jordan is a charlatan.

Everything he says is begins with "I have never seen anything like it......."

Well, he just spent a lot of time saying nothing.

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53. Sewell nailing him on Ghouliani - with Taylor being bypassed.

[Roland99]

55. A better question of GS would be...

at what point did you realize the ask and the aid were conditioned by the president despite him not saying so explicitly?

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62. +1

[rzemanfl]

54. Has a Republican ever told the truth for an entire day?

I think not. Sondland is evasive when it suits him to be.

[Mersky]

90. I'm thinking the same

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57. Michael Turner (R-OH) up

[madaboutharry]

59. Rep. Sewell driving home the question

"If it was center lane then why didn't Ambassodor Taylor know what was happening?"

madaboutharry will answer for Ambassador Sondland: "Because we did it all behind his back!"

[gademocrat7]

60. Can someone cut gym jacket off Jordan's mike.

His screaming is ridiculous.

[XRubicon]

61. Taylor pushed back and Sondland called trumph

Sondland told him that Taylor was calling them out and asked "What the fuck do you want?"- trupf did the "wrong number, wrong number, phoney phone call!" and hung up.

Sondland is lying.

my 2 cents...

[Roland99]

63. Oohhh! Sondland just dowsed turner (R-OH)

Saying he disagreed with yesterday’s testimony that aid was not conditioned

[elleng]

69. and trying again and again,

but people will be so CONFUSED, according to turner.

[Roland99]

65. Turner trying to get Sondland to walk back his conclusion that aid was conditioned

Sondland won’t give him that walk back

Saying it was his presumption

Edit. Oh. GS just gave him the yes. But saying it was his presumption

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75. Yep. I think he got it, too.

Which means maybe he just got Sondland to perjure himself outright instead of just weasel.

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66. Turner putting him in a huge perjury trap

[Roland99]

70. A dem NEEDS to ask THIS of GS...

at what point did you realize the ask and the aid were conditioned by the president despite him not saying so explicitly?

[BumRushDaShow]

77. They may have sortof asked that

but I think coming back around to it might be useful. Will have to see the transcript later because there was a reason why the headlines went flying everywhere.

[elleng]

74. trying to do so,

but sticking to his 'guns,' "it was MY PRESUMPTION."

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84. That was a new weasle word.

[elleng]

92. and NECESSARY, as we know, from testimony of his jailed friend, trump doesn't give explicit orders.

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97. Mobsters never use literal terms

[mucifer]

76. I would love for Sondland to get some facts out AND go to prison for a bit for his perjury

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68. Andre Carson (D-IN) up

[madaboutharry]

71. YES!

oh my!

Turner now trying to beat him up.

[nolabear]

73. BOY do they twist things. I don't even know what side they're pretending Sondland is on.

[Mersky]

78. I predict we'll hear the words presume, presumption, and opine

Quite a few more times. I hope I'm wrong.

I think he dined on some choice words over the lunch break.

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79. Schiff pointing out that exact wording does not affect whether a crime happened.

[Roland99]

80. Schiff setting the record straight that trump doesn't have explicitly say he's bribing

or a quid pro quo in order for there to be evidence of it

[mucifer]

82. Sondland is getting squirmy

[nolabear]

81. Thank you Adam Schiff! Calling out the bs!

[Roland99]

83. Again Schiff pointing out they got the money cuz trump got caught

Two days before the aid was lifted the news went public that congress was investigating

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86. Yes! I love that he did that. It cleared the BS cloud from the room. nt

[Roland99]

85. Wenstrub up

Maybe trying to push CT that Ukraine was involved in 2016 election

Says he’s interested in facts. LMAO

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87. Brad Wenstrup (R-OH) up

[madaboutharry]

88. I love Adam Schiff.

The republican argument is that the President of The United States is incompetent and not in control of the government. They are arguing that Rudy Giuliani was running a rogue government behind Trump's back.

It is just ridiculous.

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96. Rudy can't work his own phone. Run a rogue government? Pfttt!

[backtoblue]

89. Wenstrup whining to Schiff

[nolabear]

91. They talk to Schiff more than they do the witnesses.

I swear I would

[demmiblue]

93. If they did impeachment as a yelling contest, Republicans would definitely win.

Link to tweet

[Miles Archer]

94. HA HA HA, Wenstrup. Bite my ass, buddy.

"Failed Clinton Coup."

[polichick]

95. Trump is pretty slick in getting people to do his bidding...

without spelling things out himself. He does have a few skills.

[MFGsunny]

113. snake oil salesman meets charlatan meets mob cartel boss meets pitiful psychopath ..... n/t

[Roland99]

98. WTF is Conaway on about? A boycott of sondlands hotels?

That’s America. Free expression / speech

[madaboutharry]

101. Anything to ignore the facts.

[backtoblue]

104. Iokiyar

Where was his outrage at the threats and career loss to Amb. Yovanovitch?

[mucifer]

106. I am up for boycotting his hotels Despite some good statements today he is scummy

[nolabear]

100. OFFS. They're just riffing now. Attacking every Democrat possible.

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103. Speier is up now.

[Pachamama]

110. "The POTUS has 5 Pinochios on a daily basis, so lets not go there..."

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117. That was classic! She got applause in this household.

[Roland99]

105. President of the US has five Pinocchio's on a daily basis. Let's not go there

Speier!!

[demmiblue]

109. FTW!

[Pacifist Patriot]

118. Line of the day and got her in-room applause. LOL!

[BumRushDaShow]

107. Jackie Speier (D-CA) up and just hit one outta the park

"The President has "5 Pinocchios" on a daily basis!" (to applause)

[2naSalit]

120. She sure did!

Brought up Cohen's statement on "code".

[shanti]

108. Kudos, Ms. Speier!!

[elleng]

111. HAIL to Jackie Speier!!!

[backtoblue]

112. The president has 5 Pinocchio s daily so lets not go there...

Applause and laughter in room

[Roland99]

114. GS: I've been hampered to give accurate testimony w/o those docs

On docs held up by pompeo

[Roland99]

116. Does delay of aid benefit Russia?

GS: it could be looked at that way. Yes

[dustyscamp]

115. hehe

[oasis]

119. Jackie Speier says Trump has 5 Pinnochios on a daily basis. Gets applause

from those present in the hearing room.

[BumRushDaShow]

121. Chris Stewart (R-UT) up putting crap into the record

and Schiff just corrected him on who was "refusing to testify".

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122. THREAD #7 IS UP

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212710429

[Siwsan]

123. Is it my TV, or does Congressman Stewart's face looks like his BP might be spiking!

That's just not coming across as a normal, healthy skin tone.

[asiliveandbreathe]

124. Looks like BP and getting redder..as compared to the fellow

sitting over his right shoulder..yup BP....l