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alwaysinasnit

(5,063 posts)
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:04 PM Nov 2019

I believe that the Sondlund bombshell means that pardons won't be available for co-conspirators.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but if there were to be a scenario where 45 wants to resign and have Pence pardon him, then given that Sondlund implicated him (Pence) in this conspiracy, Pence wouldn't be able to grant said pardon.

Am I out in left field???

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I believe that the Sondlund bombshell means that pardons won't be available for co-conspirators. (Original Post) alwaysinasnit Nov 2019 OP
If Pence is President he can do it. redstatebluegirl Nov 2019 #1
From what I understand about Presidential pardons leftieNanner Nov 2019 #2
There is no limit on self-serving pardons Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #3
Eddie Gallagher, war criminal. Two other war criminals, as well. nt tblue37 Nov 2019 #4
Bush's Iran Contra pardons were nearly as corrupt exboyfil Nov 2019 #5

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
1. If Pence is President he can do it.
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:05 PM
Nov 2019

I would hope he would be in so much trouble himself that he would decline but who knows.

leftieNanner

(15,080 posts)
2. From what I understand about Presidential pardons
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:11 PM
Nov 2019

They are nearly limitless. ahem...Joe Arpaio... Scooter Libby...

There aren't any constitutional limits on these, sadly. I guess the Founding Fathers didn't figure we would have a flaming asshole like The Orange One in our house.

Voltaire2

(12,996 posts)
3. There is no limit on self-serving pardons
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:18 PM
Nov 2019

other than a general consensus that one cannot pardon oneself nor can a pardon cover crimes in the future, and of course impeachment.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
5. Bush's Iran Contra pardons were nearly as corrupt
Wed Nov 20, 2019, 04:25 PM
Nov 2019

The President can pretty much pardon anyone. Question becomes can you remain politically viable after doing it. In this climate I think you might be.

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