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redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 08:15 PM Nov 2019

Well it's done. I'm glad it was done. Will it change anything?

Trump’s cowardly devotees do not seem moved or likely to move. Maybe one or two-maybe none. The Senate is his. It’s on to the election. It kinda feels the way it felt after the solar eclipse was over.

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Well it's done. I'm glad it was done. Will it change anything? (Original Post) redstateblues Nov 2019 OP
Think about the independents. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #1
We will have them in the General redstateblues Nov 2019 #4
One hopes. eom guillaumeb Nov 2019 #5
Yeah, we'll be able to put a name on who killed the Republic. dem4decades Nov 2019 #2
The Democrats need to time the handover to Senate perfectly and control messaging Blaukraut Nov 2019 #3
It certainly isn't going to change anything about removal vis a vis the senate Arthur_Frain Nov 2019 #6
I think they should openly debate the merits of the evidence. world wide wally Nov 2019 #7
My repug coworkers loved the hearings highmindedhavi Nov 2019 #8
What's with the trolling bs? rockfordfile Nov 2019 #10
I'll just say this... Boxerfan Nov 2019 #9

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
3. The Democrats need to time the handover to Senate perfectly and control messaging
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 08:20 PM
Nov 2019

The closer to the general election the Senate verdict comes in - and it will obviously be an acquittal - the better it is for our side. It just can't be too close to throw up tons of ads against vulnerable repub senators. We want the memory of the vote fresh enough in people's minds to remain angry and motivated to go to the polls next November.

Arthur_Frain

(1,849 posts)
6. It certainly isn't going to change anything about removal vis a vis the senate
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 08:33 PM
Nov 2019

But as was pointed out somewhere else, this ceased to become about trump and instead has become about an attempt to expose what republicans are willing to defend. Which doesn’t matter at all to their base.

It’s kind of frustrating. As I ask my wife (and anyone else who doesn’t have to listen to me) is there anyone at this point who does not know if they will vote for trump in 2020? The obvious answer to that question should be no. Anyone who tries to tell me they haven’t decided is a liar. The only honest indecision I could accept would be which democratic candidate is preferred, but that applies to the primary.

But this was true for most folks I know long before the impeachment proceedings got started. Everything that went before us this week was political grandstanding. That became obvious from the tone of questions that every single republican favored. Every. Single. Republican.

And that right there should inform a lot of decisions we consider going forward.

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
7. I think they should openly debate the merits of the evidence.
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 08:33 PM
Nov 2019

That way, we could point out how fucking STUPID Republicans are and how unfit for office as well.

 

highmindedhavi

(355 posts)
8. My repug coworkers loved the hearings
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 08:37 PM
Nov 2019

I had to endure the video clips of our witness saying there was no quid pro quo or bribery, thought we had more, dang!

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