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(111,056 posts)Sort of like, "Hunter Biden was working with Burisma." What does that have to do with bribing the Ukrainians for help in the next election?
I fail to see the correlation to any crimes by Donald Trump and the minor crimes of others?
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,396 posts)Just adds fuel to the wingnut CT fires.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,396 posts)"DEEP STATE IS OUT TO GET TRUMP!!!!"
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Volaris
(10,269 posts)This might be a dead horse or it might not be, but oh boy are they gonna fuck it till it smells bad..
Cartaphelius
(868 posts)that I can actually envision Gym J and Ratfinc taking turns....
🤦?♂️🤢
Volaris
(10,269 posts)magicarpet
(14,124 posts).... I ran to the medicine cabinet then dabbed some Vicks to my nostrils and the area under my nose.
[Hot sex with a dead carcass,... that is so Rethug.]
Ms. Toad
(34,004 posts)But - there are very strict rules to follow in order to obtain a FISA warrant.
It is the equivalent of lying to obtain a regular search warrant - even if the target really is a criminal, any evidence that flows from the warrant may be kept out of court (even if the persion is guilty) in order to protect all of our rights.
So - this is potentially a BIG deal, even though it has no bearing on whether he is guilty or not.
tblue37
(65,227 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,004 posts)triron
(21,984 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,004 posts)If the information on which the warrant was based was falsified
If it was the only information (or the key piece of information) on which the warrant was based
How many warrants there were - and what was gathered as a result of the warrants
If (assuming normal criminal procedural rules - without pulling the statute to confirm) those executing the warrant were (or should have been) aware of th eany falsification.
There's a lot we don't know at this stage - but it could be a very big deal (regardless of all of the criminal activit it
Imperialism Inc.
(2,495 posts)He wasn't found guilty of anything so no worries about that situation here.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)is covered in Russian dirt. But you're right, he wasn't charged.
Ms. Toad
(34,004 posts)Fruit of the poisonous tree, and all - you have to unravel the thread of everything that flowed from any tainted warrants. (The contention was that it doesn't alter Trump's guilt - which is accurate. But from a legal perspective, whether it alters his gilt or not is pretty much irrelevant, if it taints threads that lead to Trump.)
evertonfc
(1,713 posts)He deserves the harshest penalty
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)maxsolomon
(33,252 posts)firing squad?
or a reprimand in his file?
MontanaMama
(23,296 posts)these days?
ETA: I wonder if we will find out that Barr is mixed up in this?
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)on. No alteration needed. I don't know, I know, I don't trust whatever this is.
MontanaMama
(23,296 posts)I edited my post with the thought that Barr might be creeping in and around this...
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)triron
(21,984 posts)Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)As long as we don't know how the document was altered, they can make hay with just the insinuation that something untoward was going on.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)And the timing is beyond suspicious.
triron
(21,984 posts)Volaris
(10,269 posts)But expect the desperate GOP to go grasping at straws.
If this is legit (like a court says 'yeah you fucked up buddy') it will fuel deep state coup conspiracy theories among the right for at least as long as the Kennedy assassination...what fun..
rzemanfl
(29,554 posts)I don't trust Barr and with good reason.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)XRubicon
(2,212 posts)Oh my god!
</sarcasm>
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)MattP
(3,304 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Imperialism Inc.
(2,495 posts)Apparently leaking ahead of time to set the narrative.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)the date and try to shape the story, to fit their narrative. Maybe that's what they are doing? I know the Magat's and bots were all over this story, like rabid wolves as soon as CNN reported it.
Imperialism Inc.
(2,495 posts)Article says FBI thing will be part of IG report and that is coming on Dec 9. I thought I heard something was coming tonight too, but maybe it was just this leak?
LuvLoogie
(6,936 posts)and the media will talk about this and only this for two weeks
bluestarone
(16,872 posts)That's a proven.
Maru Kitteh
(28,325 posts)shaped a creepy skull around it.
Narrator: "Mr. Page's wardrobe has been furnished by . . . VLAD'S WAREHOUSE . . . the last place you will ever need to shop. We insist.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)are pointing finger at each other. The damn has broken. Criminal Barr covered up the WB's complaint, He should recuse himself.
The Public has not seen the Mueller Report. What Criminal Barr is doing should put in behind bars.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)I also think the IC has and will continue to fight back.
Criminal Barr and the Republicans favor most heartily the Russians over The United States of America.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,075 posts)Don't be surprised if this is another one of their "muddy the waters with an unfounded accusation" stunts. They put it out there, so that people start to question things, and then when it proves to be false, it gets printed in a tiny column on page 16B, while everyone still believes it to be true. Same shit, different day.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)is beginning.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)he is globe trotting for Putin I find equally ridiculous and terrifying. He is cocky for a reason, he thinks he won't get caught and for now he is right.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)Criminals in the White House and the #DeptofCorruption have defied duly authorized congressional subpoenas.
I've already started talking to my husband about moving to Canada because the situation America is in is extremely dangerous for all Americans. All of us.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)rapidly.
triron
(21,984 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)the press saw the other night.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,396 posts)Like yay, we found *something* bad on somebody (other than Trump)? Or, "Is this the best you could do?"
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)DURHAM D
(32,607 posts)Is this the best Barr can do?
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)He was already under FISA in 2013/2014 for working with the Russians once.
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)triron
(21,984 posts)spanone
(135,795 posts)I'm leery.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,396 posts)Same day that Netanyahu gets indicted?
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)indictment with t-rump, et al.
onecaliberal
(32,786 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)uponit7771
(90,304 posts)Leghorn21
(13,523 posts)IG discovery/Durham criminal investigation. It was an
FBI line attorney (meaning not top level) whos no
longer with the FBI
Link to tweet
No investigation needed - just the announcement of one, eh?
meh
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)attempt to steer the narrative. It is working on the right, they are devouring this like wolves and of course _____(insert
left wing boogey man here) Brennan, Comey, McCabe, Strock, Page, Clinton, etc. will be locked up immediately.
Johnny2X2X
(18,973 posts)Thats their big reveal? OK.
uponit7771
(90,304 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)But alas, it keeps the insane Republican base in line.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)like whoever may have done it was a lower level staffer and it didn't really change anything.