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Fri Nov 22, 2019, 07:57 AM

Sondland lied again!!

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Susan Simpson
@TheViewFromLL2
I just realized that, for whatever reason, Sondland got his testimony about his "no quid pro quo" call with President Trump wrong. He testified that the call took place on September 9th, but that can't possibly be true













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Reply Sondland lied again!! (Original post)
Roland99 Nov 2019 OP
FM123 Nov 2019 #1
malaise Nov 2019 #2
global1 Nov 2019 #3
2naSalit Nov 2019 #6
lagomorph777 Nov 2019 #8
2naSalit Nov 2019 #9
UpInArms Nov 2019 #4
Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2019 #10
spanone Nov 2019 #5
mopinko Nov 2019 #7
MartyTheGreek Nov 2019 #11
Pepsidog Nov 2019 #12
gab13by13 Nov 2019 #13
Cosmocat Nov 2019 #16
MontanaMama Nov 2019 #14
SCantiGOP Nov 2019 #15
Moosepoop Nov 2019 #18
OhNo-Really Nov 2019 #19
DallasNE Nov 2019 #17
uponit7771 Nov 2019 #20
CaptainTruth Nov 2019 #21
global1 Nov 2019 #22
wnylib Nov 2019 #23
H2O Man Nov 2019 #24

Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:06 AM

1. Yep. He is so trumpy in that way....

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:08 AM

2. Get thee to the greatest page

RFN!

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:12 AM

3. So What Happens Now?....

Does Schiff recall Morrison and Sondland to correct the record? Do they charge Sondland with perjury?

They can't let this lie stand. The record needs to be corrected.

Will Trump have to make new notes? (sarcasm)

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Response to global1 (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:34 AM

6. Funny thing about MF45's notes...

They might have been written in sharpie but that's not his handwriting. So that's his script, as he demonstrated. When all speak the identical phrases and their memory is most clear with those exact words and murky on what should be more memorable things... doesn't work out when details are checked.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:22 AM

8. Trump's 'I Want Nothing' Rant Transformed Into Songs By The Ramones, Morrissey, and More

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:25 AM

9. Saw that, funny!

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:18 AM

4. Sondland seems to have lied about many things ..

One state department employee testified that all records were available... Sondland testified that he could not access his records ..

Who to believe?

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Response to UpInArms (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:46 AM

10. That's interesting. I was wondering how that worked

And if somehow they just made his in and out box restricted.

So if a witness has 10 emails HE can pick which, if any, to show at the hearing.

What's restricted is the the committee can't get the whole 10, right?

Have to say, pretty damn savvy move on their part.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:19 AM

5. truth is dead.

thanks to trump

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 08:51 AM

7. he was clearly trying a limited hangout. it wont help.

at this point, sondland's lies are assumed.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:50 AM

11. My gut tells me that was a staged call...

to get picked up on a private line in Ukraine knowing that the call would do just that, there would be several witnesses and who knows, maybe even a microphone under the table. It would get Sondland off the hook because he was just following orders and Trump would get to say no QPQ, but allow him to mention the investigations as though it were a thing. The Russ-Ukra-Trump theory that it was Ukraine that attacked the 2016 elections, DNC, etc.

#AlibiCall

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:53 AM

12. Republicans master propagandists. Take one or two words out of context and control the narrative.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:57 AM

13. Everyone brags up Volchor

but I'm not so sure about him.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:19 AM

16. People bragged up Barr, too

nm

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:57 AM

14. This means Sondland can be squeezed.

Maybe it’s time for Gordon to go through some things...

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 09:58 AM

15. Does anybody know who this woman is?

A quick search doesn’t show a lot about her except she is desperate for an audience.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:37 AM

18. My quick search got me this (in part):


About Me

“LL2” is short for Lower Level 2, or the second sub-basement of the George Washington University Law Library. LL2 has no windows, and no view to speak of, but it does have the library’s collection of books on international law. Susan spent too much time there during law school.

Susan Simpson graduated from the George Washington University Law School. As an associate with the Volkov Law Group, she focuses primarily on the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act and white collar defense, as well as related civil proceedings. Her previous legal experience includes civil litigation and criminal appeals. She is a producer of the Undisclosed podcast, along with Colin Miller and Rabia Chaudry.

As a blogger at LL2, she will, on rare occasions, write about things other than jurisdictional issues, in which case she will most likely write about standards of review and/or Battlestar Galactica. Her interests include international tribunal procedure, law of the sea, conflicting sovereignty regimes, and craft projects involving obscure tetrapods and repurposed armor. She can beat you in Halo.

[email: susan.simpson@gmail.com]

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #15)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:40 AM

19. "The woman" is the messenger

But since you asked

Susan Simpson graduated from the George Washington University Law School. As an associate with the Volkov Law Group, she focuses primarily on the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act and white collar defense, as well as related civil proceedings. Her previous legal experience includes civil litigation and criminal appeals. She is a producer of the Undisclosed podcast, along with Colin Miller and Rabia Chaudry.

About Me

Hi, I'm Susan. I'm a lawyer in Washington, D.C., and The View From LL2 is my place to talk about things that I am interested in.

To find out more about LL2, go here.
https://viewfromll2.com/about/

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:32 AM

17. When Sondland Said That

My immediate reaction was that Sondland was backtracking, then I said that Trump will run with that. But I couldn't put my finger on exactly why that was so, not realizing it was a timeline issue. But when Trump ran with it so fiercely it was pretty clear Sondland was at that moment speaking to an audience of one. And when you look at how he prefaced the comments he was about to make it is lawyerly and intended to give cover to any possible perjury. So Simpson does a really great job here and nails it down precisely.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:55 AM

20. Sondland can say he doesn't have his notes, plausible since Red Don is holding them

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 10:59 AM

21. Wow, this is significant!

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 11:19 AM

22. How Come Nothing Is Being Said About This Call And Timeline On The Cable.....

News channels?

It would seem that this information from Susan Simpson is significant to this whole impeachment inquiry. How come we aren't hearing anything about this on the news? This should be a big story.

What's going on?

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 01:26 PM

23. Sondland was so ambiguous that I wonder why

he testified at all -- supposedly in defiance of Trump so that he was denied access to his own material for reference. Or is that an excuse for being vague on specifics and for previous lies and omissions?

He sounded like he was actually defending Trump while claiming to provide as much info as possible on QPQ. But he insisted that he could only "surmise" that QPQ included security system. He confined QPQ to what was already known from phone call -- Velensky visit to WH. So no new info on that from Sondland.

Did not know that.Burisma meant Biden? Not credible claim. Just CYA BS to dissociate himself from obvious Biden reference in phone call.

Then gives Trump something to use with claim of no QPQ statement from Trump in phone call -- which now is under question due to timeline.

Even the "bombshell" claim of no inner vs outer loop that names administration people says it was all open and above board, allowing Trump to claim it was legitimate tactic in fighting corruption. Fiona Hill made it clear that there was a division of inner and outer. Trump and pals vs career professional diplomats.

Only 2 useful points from Sondland. 1. That Trump wanted only a televised statement of investigation, which means it was politicsl fodder for campaign. But Trump can say he knew the investigation would take time and only wanted a public commitment to prove intent to fight corruption.

2. More useful, IMO, is the claim by Sondland that he was denied access to his own records for reference. That is something to add to the obstruction charges. Then Trump has to ignore the charge and let it stand, or produce the records which would provide specifics and eliminate what I believe was deliberate vagueness from Sondland.

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Response to Roland99 (Original post)

Fri Nov 22, 2019, 03:33 PM

24. Well done!

Thank you for this. It is very important.

Recommended.

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