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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAs always, Hillary Clinton tweets the perfect response
Link to tweet
@Bakari_Sellers: D'all ever sit back and think about how much @HillaryClinton was actually right about?
@HillaryClinton: Occasionally

Pepsidog
(6,325 posts)triron
(22,240 posts)lastlib
(25,240 posts)"An informed and enlightened citizenry is the archenemy of tyranny."
I think the corollary might be that an un-informed and b]un-enlightened citizenry is the foundation of tyranny. And I think this is why Repugs are so hostile to education--the less educated are less willing to question the authority, and thus more accepting of domination.
SuprstitionAintthWay
(386 posts)The struggle to pull the dis-informed out of their mental indolence, indifference to truth, and bigotry, feels endless, like so much paddling against the tide. Friends, relatives, and acquaintances alike, in these ruts of hostility towards objective facts, seem hellbent on staying in them. They like it there.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)usaf-vet
(7,236 posts)She had access to classified data, the type of data Trump brags about knowing AND quite often shares it with the Russians.
She could see connections that were hidden away from the average American citizen.
The U.S. intelligence services have been maligned by Trump and the GOP. Maligned with memes like "fake news", "deep state", "never trumpers, and many others. Essentially lying about the validity of our intelligence agencies' findings.
Now over the last two weeks of hearing, Trump has kept access to the data from being public. More than one of the recent FACT witnesses have said: "they could have been more precise if they had their documents." How convenient for the GOP members that the witnesses were unable to produce the factual data. WHY?...because Trump wouldn't release it.
The GOP members of the Impeachment Hearings used the fact that not all the documents need were available. They played both sides of the fence.
Whining on the one hand that they didn't have access to the data that would PROVE their conspiracy theories. DEBUNKED theories.
Then on the other hand constantly making the point that all the data the witnesses where citing was second hand. How convenient for them that Trump wouldn't release the factual data.
You know Obstruction of Justice.
moose65
(3,351 posts)I foresee in the future there will be a lot of laws passed in the wake of all this shit. The President, while under investigation, has the power to block access to evidence in that investigation. That is absolutely ridiculous!
usaf-vet
(7,236 posts)A DU post eariler today pointing out that a law was passed in Russia that will REQUIRE all electronic devices to have Russian software installed. Just imagine how little privacy users of those devices will have.
I'd take a bet if Trump is elected to a second term we will be facing the same invasion on our privacy.
malthaussen
(17,886 posts)Ellen Forradalom
(16,179 posts)both to the left and the right by "punching" Hillary: that woman is a corrupt/ neoliberal/commie/warmonger/troops-hating/carpet-bagging c*nt." Wow, you sure made yourself look radical/murican on Facebook and to your friends, but how did that work out for the entire freakin' world?
I'm thinking it's a phenomenon akin to hippy-punching: mommy-punching. Prove how cool you are by dissing your parents. Hillary represents "mom", she is all about work, responsibility, doing your homework and knowing the material, and doing your part instead of blaming someone else. She can absorb the punches and keep on keeping on. But Mom doesn't live forever and she can't fix all problems, and when the time comes...it's not her fault.
The_Counsel
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Hortensis
(58,785 posts)how scary what she knew was.
Or how much she must have worried, even with almost all polls showing her winning solidly until close to the end. To me, just the realization that Trump was nevertheless only one vote away from the oval office was a cold and surreal reality.
Such a burden to carry the future of the nation on her shoulders and to feel responsibility, as she must have, for even the decisions of those willing to believe disproved lies about her.
THIS below is the real Secretary Clinton speaking, though.
Link to tweet
ScratchCat
(2,542 posts)"The question is whether Republicans in Congress will affirm that a REPUBLICAN president is not above the law".
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)We of course know they're doing their best to kick off the ties of representative government that are supposed to bind them, and allowing those to rule is not in their game plan, to put it mildly.
ismnotwasm
(42,549 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)I hope she knows that.
Actually Im pretty sure she does because Im sure there are people who know her who come to DU.
Alithea
(99 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 22, 2019, 07:09 PM - Edit history (1)
"Are there any women out there who astutely analyzed a situation and issued warnings, but were ignored or discounted?" it would generate a tidal-wave of responses.
Brilliant answer by Hillary. Its brevity speaks volumes.
Beacool
(30,346 posts)Love Hillary.
StevieM
(10,559 posts)How are you doing?
I have been trying to figure out what to in this election. I was pretty annoyed with Mayor Pete early on, due to an unfair swipe he took at HRC, parroting the claim that her slogan had been "I'm with her" when, of course, it was actually "Stronger Together." I thought he made some unfair critiques of her campaign.
But I am slowly warming up to him. He has been much better lately. I am now giving him serious consideration.
I like Kamala Harris too, but she is struggling to stay in the top tier. It looks like she will be out after Iowa.
Tulsi Gabbard is loathsome.
Beacool
(30,346 posts)Everything is OK. I hope that's the case for you too.
I don't have a favorite candidate yet. Although I think that mayor Pete will do well in the future, I don't think that he'll be the nominee this time around.
Frankly, I don't know if anyone in our current roster will sway enough Independents and some moderate Republicans not to vote for Trump. As despicable as he is, he seems to have created a cult and we don't have anyone with that kind of pull in our current roster. There's no Obama or Hillary in the group. Maybe Sanders, but he's too darn old IMO and his views scare away moderates.
At this point, I would vote for a turnip over Trump. I'm just not sure if we can pull it off. I'm praying and keeping my fingers crossed.
I'm leaving tomorrow morning for PA, so I want to wish you and yours a Happy Thanksgiving!!!
czarjak
(12,635 posts)Again.
kwolf68
(7,885 posts)For all her criminal actions? You mean she did nothing? It was all political theater? You can basically slander a person to get elected. That's what our nation has become.
BootinUp
(49,295 posts)Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)Cha
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barbtries
(30,153 posts)going back a long way, she was right about much more than she was wrong about.
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