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[dewsgirl]

1. Holy hell, I knew about the lettuce and pork.

SMH😔

[Farmer-Rick]

2. Thanks for this.

[CurtEastPoint]

3. Thanks to giant goober ex-gov of GA Sonny Pigfucker Perdue, now head of USDA.

[2naSalit]

9. +1

[DFW]

4. In my case the USDA plays almost no role whatsoever, so I should be covered.

We are having Thanksgiving dinner here in Germany. The only things we'll have from the States are the Pepperidge Faaaam stuffing mix and the cranberries from Massachusetts. Everything else will be locally grown from local farms here in Westphalia.

[cwydro]

5. I hear you.

I love when I visit Europe because I don’t have nearly the trepidation about buying food that I do here. Sigh.

[DFW]

7. My roomies in Dallas tell me "don't buy this, don't buy that, don't touch bread."

I may as well be in Tokyo for all the western stuff we're not supposed to touch these days!

[cwydro]

8. I really don't trust our food delivery system here anymore.

I grow my own lettuce and spring onions even in the winter.

But dayum, shouldn’t be like this.

[DFW]

11. It should be the other way around

Here in Europe, everything is so crowded and close together, you'd think it's here that you had to watch out. But in the States, so much evil stuff is permitted that you really have to watch what you stuff your mouth with. I check every product for high fructose corn syrup in the USA, even cocktail sauce for our shrimp in Cape Cod (Crosse and Blackwell has it, Legal Seafoods does not). Smuckers jam uses lots of it, but most other brands do not. If it's a European import (Bonne Maman, e.g.), then we're safe.

And you are SO right--it shouldn't be like that!

[demigoddess]

17. I looked at my Smucker's Low Sugar Orange Marmalade and

it did not have high fructose corn syrup. It listed only sugar as sweetener. I like the Low Sugar ones but the stores refuse to carry them, so I buy them direct from Smucker's online. They stopped making or selling the Low Sugar Apricot that my husband likes. Thanks for mentioning those other labels from europe, I will look for them.

[DFW]

18. I am an apricot fan, too

There is a valley in Austria called the Wachautal. They grow a special kind of apricot there called the "Marille." It is famous for its powerful fruity aroma. There are a few local producers of Marille products, but not many export outside of the German-speaking countries. One exception is (or, at least was) Staud's. If your husband can find Staud's Marillen marmelade and get it delivered, I think he will be very grateful for the experience!

I do not knowingly use products with low sugar unless they do not contain any artificial sweetener (especially aspartame). Both my parents and all their siblings had cancer, so, with me, it is not a question of "if," but "when." I have no intention of accelerating the process. HFCS is already well-known as bad news, so I look for it on every label when in the USA. It is not permitted here, so I am less vigilant.

[Blue_true]

19. You can search online for low sugar apricot jam. There should be several choices.

I almost said that you can make it yourself at home, but most people today don't bother with that.

[demigoddess]

21. that is why we like the Low Sugar ones. My husband used to make

jam using his mother's recipe. She just made it with half the sugar and double the pectin. It makes a lovely jam in all kinds of flavors. But we are getting too old for the home canning these days.

[demigoddess]

25. I talked to the company, they said not enough stores were ordering

it so they stopped making it. My husband loved to can jam until he got too old and cranky. We have a recipe for pear butter that is out of this world! miss it!

[Blue_true]

28. I suggest that you still look online.

Companies that sell to supermarket chains and Walmart tend to be companies that run fairly significant volumes. There are smaller companies that are fine with low volume runs, you want find their stuff in supermarkets and they don't have the money to advertise.

[YOHABLO]

6. There are items that you can eat, just check info on brands.

for instance Breakstone cottage cheese. Romain grown in Salinas. So more importantly, check labels and stay informed.

[Jewls2]

10. Bought the cottage cheese a couple days ago. Was picking up pork ribs today.

And often grab a box of cheese nips.

Italian sausage pork? Was getting some Jimmy Dean too, for spag.

[Jewls2]

12. Interesting information on the pork. Glad someone called them out.

[PennyK]

13. "Evil regulation" indeed

Only thing here that affects me is the lettuce -- for salads and sandwiches.

[erronis]

14. More like evil deregulation. The peeResident is appointing the foxes to guard the hen house

in exchange for some "campaign support" or emoluments or purchasing gobs of his kids worthless products/books.

[OhNo-Really]

23. I chop mine up and boil in organic broth with other veggies. Kills most stuff

[Mendocino]

15. Romaine in itself

is not the problem. Like most produce it is raised in animal manure.

[IcyPeas]

16. thank you. I only knew about the romaine lettuce

hadn't heard about all the others... blackberries... cottage cheese

and CHEESE NIPS??? lol

[Blue_true]

20. Looks like Trump's rollback of farm water cleanliness standards are hitting produce and fruit.

The pork contamination problem is likely due to production lines being allowed to run faster, another rule that Trump messed with.

[OhNo-Really]

22. And self-Report. Huge pork processing owned by China

[NotASurfer]

24. And chicken soup

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/recall-lipton-knorr-lego-t-200000665.html

The recalled products include certain dried chicken soup mixes with specific best by dates. A complete list of affected products, Consumer UPC codes, and best by dates can be found here. No other Lipton, Knorr, or LeGoût products are affected.

No idea how they managed to contaminate a powdered mostly salt instant soup wilh listeria...but they did. Knorr's , Lipton, and LeGout (not familiar with that last one)

[underpants]

26. Well there goes my plans for pork nips lettuce wraps

[smirkymonkey]

27. Yes, dammit! Always a popular Thanksgiving family tradition!