Are any pundits on MSNBC or CNN reporting on the recently released state dept. docs (due to FOIA)?

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[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. You could turn them on and find out?

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2. I generally avoid watching these programs on the weekend. I bet Rachel will Monday.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. The Sunday shows are irritating. I don't watch them either.

Anyhow, there are more documents coming, so they will be reported on sequentially. I hope these are like the Nixon tapes.

[UniteFightBack]

3. Oh yes they are. And much more is coming. nt

[Hortensis]

5. Can't imagine they wouldn't be. I learned

on Rachel after they were released, I believe, during her time slot. Then O'Donnell, then Brian Williams. They were huge with only a few of 100,000 pages mined and are being pored over.

[triron]

6. Yes I also saw it on "The last word". They weren't released until after Rachel. I don't watch

Brian Williams. I was really wondering about this weekend.

[2naSalit]

8. From what I've seen...

that is included with the enormous amount of conversation about the hearings. There's so much there there that it's difficult it cover it all. Meanwhile, the analysts are reading the new documentation so they can report more completely about it.

[Hortensis]

10. I don't watch either. Delivery mechanisms for anti-Democratic

messages and comparisons to Republicans are bad for my health.

You made me wonder, though, and I just googled state department documents and interestingly found no new revelations from them over the last day.

Even more unwilling to go look now though since my experience is that would leave more time open for badmouthing and trying to undermining confidence in Democrats.

[eppur_se_muova]

7. They were released as Ali Velshi went on the air subbing on The Last Word -- Fri. night.

So Ali, Brian Williams and Joy Reid are the only ones on MSNBC who've been on air since then.

Look for them to get plenty of coverage Monday. They may bring Pompeo down, even before 45.

[2naSalit]

9. I think it's a good path

if these docs take down the support network just prior to removing the head honcho so that he has no one there to protect him from accountability.

[Hortensis]

11. Taking down Pompeo would hopefully save KS,

but I'm always happy to see some consequence at least for these bastards. And of course disruption may slow them down, noting that Russia and China are not disrupted and counting on making the most of ours. Pompeo's effectively a traitor enabling Russia, but as ex- CIA director he does have expertise.

Fareed Zakaria was on, but his is a quality show. He usually starts with U.S. politics these days but not the typical repetitive groupthink coverage. He focused on the attempted Ukraine framing originating as a Russian operation, Pompeo's abuse of power for his own political purposes

Also the policy "Trump's" pursuing of unilaterism and isolationism, rejection of rule-based world order, which he thinks is a neglected, much more important story in its consequences.

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12. I haven't heard a word yet from Sciff or Pelosi about pursuing anyone else but Trump.

Makes me wonder. maybe they are keeping a lot under wraps for now.

[Hortensis]

13. Absolutely sure they know a lot we don't. If I knew something,

not being a government employee, I'd call Pelosi's or Schiff's office, not the NYT or FBI.

Beyond doubt they knew about Russia's Ukraine-Biden plot and Repubs involved long before it blew up in their faces. Actually, much of it was reported by media last winter but didn't, just sat there like IUDs the nation noted but drove on past. But not them, and no doubt a lot coming out now was known or strongly expected by them, like Nunes's perambulations.

Schiff and company are doing an ethics investigation of what looks like a complete betrayal of all ethics and misuse of position by Nunes, but apparently that would be the appropriate first step for his Democratic peers in the senate in any situation. Gee, if only they had video in case prosecutors needed some.

In any case, I'm wondering if they'll let the media and court of public opinion tend to some of the lesser characters who've committed big crimes while they focus on Trump. Until the Justice Department and any other jurisdictions involved finish investigating and indict, of course.

[eppur_se_muova]

14. Isolationism was the Repug's hallmark for much of the 20th century -- they opposed what they

called "interventionism" in world affairs (unless it involved invading Latin American countries, evidently) and which most people today just regard as engaging the rest of the world, instead of ignoring it.The old Taft Repugs bitterly opposed any effort on FDR's part to aid the Allies fighting Germany, until Pearl Harbor made that stance impossible.

45's peculiar twist is that he's most opposed to doing *anything* to thwart Russia. TR's "walk softly and carry a big stick" has, in his mind, warped into "sound off your big bazzoo and swing a phony stick you won't bother to use if you're sedated with enough flattery", which doesn't seem to be working very well as an (ostensible) foreign policy. It's actually much worse than a simple regression to the historic norm for Repugs would be; Zakaria's absolutely right about that.