Lordy, there ARE tapes!

[tableturner]

House Intelligence Committee in possession of video, audio recordings from Giuliani associate Lev Parnas

The House Intelligence Committee is in possession of audio and video recordings and photographs provided to the committee by Lev Parnas, an associate of President Donald Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, who reportedly played a key role in assisting him in his efforts to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and Ukraine, multiple sources familiar with the matter tell ABC News.

The material submitted to the committee includes audio, video and photos that include Giuliani and Trump. It was unclear what the content depicts and the committees only began accessing the material last week.

"We have subpoenaed Mr. Parnas and Mr. [Igor] Fruman for their records. We would like them to fully comply with those subpoenas," House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff told CNN Sunday, with a committee spokesperson adding they would not elaborate beyond the chairman's comments.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/house-intelligence-committee-possession-video-audio-recordings-giuliani/story?id=67276448

[OKNancy]

1. Lordy, there are indictments

to come...LOL

BYE RUDY

[subana]

11. many indictments!!

[getagrip_already]

24. maybe not....

The fbi has had these since llev was arrested; they seized all of his electronics when ther arrested him. These are likely copies he kept just in case.

So the fbi has had these for weeks, yet no new indictments or investigations. Rudy still hasn't been indicted; he may never be.

[True Blue American]

70. New York

Is going after Rudy. Forget Barr’s “ Justice,” Department.

[Hortensis]

71. The FBI's boss, the AG, functions as Trump's personal

attorney these days, as True Blue says. Now they're in the hands of the SDNY and accessible to congressional Democrats who also have legal power to act.

[getagrip_already]

75. the sdny is a doj office....

It's not nys, it's federal, and barr has control over what it does.

[TruckFump]

2. Hopefully this will pull the Dunces away from the Repuke bullshit.

Gads, i cannot believe that this many people drank the Kool-Aid and they are still alive.

[subana]

14. I can't believe that republicans

after being told by Fiona Hill that repeating the conspiracy theory of Ukraine meddling in 2016 & that by continuing to repeat that, they are doing Russia's work for them! Even coming from a qualified, credible witness like her, & still they apparently see nothing wrong with doing Russia's bidding!! If they really love Russia that much, they should move there & run for office in Russia!!

bye, bye!

[TruckFump]

34. I keep asking myself, "Why?"

And I hear Deep Throat say, "Follow the money." The only difference is that this time, it's in rubles.

[subana]

50. with republicans, it's ALWAYS about money!!

I'm 70 & for all of my life I've heard republicans talk about the threat from Russia. In the '50s there was Eugene McCarthy who demonized people if they were a communist sympathizer!! In 1963 in Dallas, republicans said JFK was a communist sympathizer because he had tried to have a discussion with Krushchev to negotiate a peace between our 2 countries. For 50 or so years after that, we've listened to republicans talk about Russia as an evil entity & now all of a sudden we're supposed to think Russia is our friend? I don't get it!! When did Russia stop being the evil satan to become our BFF?

[intrepidity]

53. When they abandoned communism and embraced oligarchy

That's the only answer I can come up with.

They lust after the obscene wealth the corrupt oligarchy stole from the people.

[mjvpi]

60. Bingo

[subana]

64. good point

as always, we know republicans love money. It's very likely that that's part of the change in the republican party. But it still doesn't explain all of it.

Btw, if they believe that another country interfered with the election & continues to interfere, shouldn't they try to do something about it? Some departments have tried to do things to make our elections more secure but there has still been little action from the top levels of govt!

[LiberalLovinLug]

69. Yup. It was re-energized with the spread of globalization.

When markets opened up all over the planet. With pro-corporate trade deals. And at a time when wealth was being concentrated more and more to fewer and fewer at an accelerated rate. No longer did the few very wealthy businesspeople have to limit their investments. The world was their oyster.

I think naturally, those uber Capitalists shared a goal. Get into power every Right Wing corruptible leader we can, who can be our economic ally. ie. stamp out unions, keep wages low, lower environmental standards, and ease import export rules. Which is different than a traditional geo-political enemy, where that adversity is mostly a show for the news media.

Its like a club. Where the entry is based not on country, or even race, its based on your bottom line. Where international players scratch each others backs, with the help of the bought off RW leaders they helped to install. Putin, Trump, Duterte, Erdoğan, Orban, Jinping, Bolsonaro, and whomever now takes over in Bolivia. Seems to be spreading.

[Hortensis]

74. Good, but NOT just money. Power AND ideology. They have it

and want more -- securely, permanently, and on their terms.

They can no longer win elections without changing themselves. They've decided to change our form of government instead. And Russia's helping them.

[COLGATE4]

54. It wasn't Eugene McCarthy you're talking about - it's the late, unlamented

Joseph McCarthy who covered himself with ignominy for smearing countless innocent Americans as :"commies" or "commie sympathizers". May he rot in hell.

[wnylib]

55. You beat me to it. Eugene McCarthy was a

liberal Dem who ran in the 1968 primaries for president.

Joseph McCarthy was the RW scumbag from the 1950's who destroyed people's lives with his vicious accusations and hearings.

[subana]

65. sorry guys, I should have known better than to make that mistake

McCarthy demonized people for (in many cases) being nothing more than a communist sympathizer!

[wnylib]

81. Easy enough mistake to make since they have

the same last name and both became known in politics.

BTW, I'm the same age. I keep the McCarthy guys apart because I have a very vague memory of my mother cussing out Joe McCarthy while she was dusting in the living room with the tv on. I was too young to know who he was or what it was about but made the connection when I was older.

A friend of mine was a supporter of Eugene McCarthy in thr 1968 primaries. Even though we were not voting age yet since it was still 21 then, my friend did phone calls, knocked on doors, and stuffed envelopes.

There is also news video of the McCarthy supporters on primary election night in CA getting word of Bobby's assassination

[subana]

63. you're right, sorry

most of my life I've tried to forget that guy & the terrible things he did!

[getagrip_already]

78. and lets not forget the lesson of herbert hoover, who

terrorized the executive, legislative, branches and media with dirt dug up by his fbi agents.

He had dirt on everybody and was essentially untouchable. That is where barr is heading. But with far more power to investigate and compromise individuals.

[BigmanPigman]

49. Ditto!

[lagomorph777]

66. 'publicans promoting Putin's propaganda.

Pigs.

[demmiblue]

3. ...

[Funtatlaguy]

4. Play the damn tapes on live tv.

[subana]

8. hell yeah!!

that would definitely be must watch TV!

[Grins]

62. Never mind that - first find Rose Mary Woods!!

And keep her away from those tapes!!

(You youngins may have to Google that name.)

[Hortensis]

76. :) The "Rose Mary Stretch" showing how she accidentally

erased incriminating evidence while answering the phone the way she normally did.

[SunSeeker]

5. I imagine Putin has everything on tape. And in some cases video.

[Still In Wisconsin]

9. No kidding, right? The orange anus-face talks on an unsecure cell phone.

You can bet GRU (and by extension Putin) hears literally *everything* that is said.

[pangaia]

43. The why doesn;t the FBI also have tapes?

[Still In Wisconsin]

47. I'd wager the CIA and FBI *do* have tapes.

However, you have to remember that some in those two organizations, as hard as it may be to believe, are Trump loyalists. So...

[UpInArms]

6. I want to hear/see!

Inquiring minds want to know

[subana]

7. this is beautiful!!!!

even better than audio only, it sounds like it also includes video tapes!!!

I was hoping they would subpoena Parnas because he seems to want to make a deal. But this story is moving so quickly, we may already know much of the information before he even gets to testify!!

[Brother Buzz]

10. Looks like Parnas documented EVERYTHING

Why am I riffing on kompromat?

Oh, my Magic 8-Ball says Giuliani is indeed a hand grenade and he's going to blow everything up.

[subana]

15. haha!

yes, he will blow everything up, including himself!!

[pandr32]

12. Be still my heart!

[Evolve Dammit]

13. You go Lev! Spill it out and stay free. Show how 45 didn't even know you.

[subana]

17. that's what made him want to testify!

He was pissed when Donnie said he didn't know him!! So now he wants to screw Donnie as much as he can!

[Evolve Dammit]

72. We can only hope...

[bdamomma]

16. He's on a mission

Adam Schiff will never stop to get the truth, and damn those who stand in his way.

Your friends across the aisle aren't your friends!!!!!!!!!!!

[subana]

18. no they're not!

they hardly even qualify as Americans!!

[Ferrets are Cool]

19. Wont they just ignore the subpoena's like they have ignored every other one? nt

[Lock him up.]

22. ''The House Intelligence Committee is in possession of...''

Does that mean they already have them or is that just another (would-be-too-obvious) fake news for profit???

[Ferrets are Cool]

25. Yeah, it kinda contradicts itself, doesn't it.

At least to my little pea brain. If they already have possession, why have they subpoenaed?

[TheRealNorth]

28. If he refuses to comply, you can add an obstruction of justice charge

It's also possible Leg isn't sharing everything.

[wnylib]

57. The House committee does not have all the tapes.

[getagrip_already]

27. of course it does....

But they have to transcribed, vetted, and if possible, corroborated. Lev could potentially be a "double agent", planting false stories that can be disproved after they are used in hearings.

It's a typical russian tactic.

Once refuted successfully, the entire process would be corrupt and trump would instantly win.

Intel has to be double careful here. Triple careful.

[klook]

37. Very good point. (nt)

[warmfeet]

20. Bring out the sunshine.

Let it show the truth for all to see!

It must be powerful enough so that even the blind may see the truth.

I know, it's a serious stretch. One can hope, however.

[zentrum]

21. But Ghouliani will simply

...say he did it on his own, as a private citizen. Nothing to do with Rump.

He'll say that since he Sainthood was bestowed on him after 9/11, all he ever does is try to find ways to protect America.

[Mr.Bill]

38. Unless the video and audio

says different.

[zentrum]

68. True. Hope so.

[Blue_true]

23. Spycraft 101, always clandestinely video and tape conversations.

Can come in handy later.

[DENVERPOPS]

32. I would love

I would love to see the tapes Putin most assuredly has on Trump, Lindsey Graham, Mitch McConnell and others in the Republican Administration. The rated "XXX" ones........I'm sure they exist and Putin has them on CD's..........

Of course according to Stormy, there really isn't much to see........LOL

[Blue_true]

36. Do you really want to look at their little wee-wees? I'll take a pass. nt

[DENVERPOPS]

41. Nope, just want the Republican Women Trump Humpers to see for themselves......LOL

All hat and no cattle.............I think they say in Texas......

[Blue_true]

42. They won't care. It is all about punishing "others" for them. nt

[DENVERPOPS]

44. On a lighter note:

On a lighter note, I heard that the Dow Corning Corporation is having a real problem with producing enough of their bathtub caulk. It seems there has been a tremendous demand for the amount of Silicone needed by all the women who want a position in the Trump administration..........

Most recent example is that fraud of religious leader he just appointed to his administration. Sure her silicon rack will be a great addition to all his other arm candy..........

[Blue_true]

48. She has fake breasts and Botox (fake lips). Yes, she is a fraud in every way. nt

[DENVERPOPS]

61. His new Press Secretary

also was appointed for her maxed out Mammaries.

doesn't matter that she has been jailed twice for DUI's and a bar brawl where she was arrested for assault because she took a pool cue and went after someone...........

[Blue_true]

79. Like a guy who speculated on the breast size of his unborn daughter

would change.

Trump hires the best people. Grisham is likely excellent at swinging a pool cue at a head.

We may want to chill pointing out Trump's dumbassery, None other that Rick Perry says that God sent Trump to earth special.

[DENVERPOPS]

80. there have been many pictures by legitimate sources

there have been many pictures by legitimate sources of him holding his daughter in ways normal men would never think of holding their daughters.

There is even one of him kissing her behind the presidential podium. The zoomed in area shows it is lip to lip with open mouths.....
No wonder he gives her anything she wants.............

Is there anything about this man, his family or his administration or especially the current excuse for a Republican Party that is not purely nauseating????

[dawg day]

26. LOL, I just heard Rudy swearing (not under oath, mind you) that the meeting never took place.

He's always a step behind these days.

They are going to subpoena Rudy, aren't they? He doesn't have any executive privilege (doesn't work for the exec branch) or atty-client privilege (he's no longer licensed and can't act as an attorney).

Of course, he will claim both of those. All the more reason to force him into court.

[liberal N proud]

29. Republicans can deny this at their own peril

[getagrip_already]

30. also from the article (explains whats still outstanding)

However, some of the material sought by congressional investigators is already in possession of federal investigators within the Southern District of New York and thus held up from being turned over, according to sources familiar with the matter.

So some of the materials lev identified aren't in his possession, and have been subpoena'd from the fbi.

[OMGWTF]

31. Butt, butt, butt...her emails!!! LOL!

[YOHABLO]

33. UH OH !

[California_Republic]

35. ' include Trump". Oh my

[rpannier]

39. Of course there are

Once again proving fact is stranger than fiction
If, 10 years ago, I wrote a novel, tv series or movie that mirrored this maladministration no one would have bought the script because it was too unbelievable

[smirkymonkey]

40. Hallelujah!

[malaise]

56. Not sure I'd trust tapes from those

scumbags

[thucythucy]

45. I wish the media would stop saying this was an effort "to investigate"

the Bidens.

It wasn't.

It was an attempt to SMEAR them and evidence be damned.

This is a point that has to be emphasized again and again.

[lagomorph777]

67. Pushing Putin's Propaganda

I struggled for days to come up with a simple way to describe Nunes' behavior. Fiona Hill laid it out elegantly, but we have to dumb it down enough for the Deplorables to understand it.

[doc03]

46. If there was a tape of Trump killing someone

and another with him getting paid cash for it it wouldn't make any difference.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

51. Right now I'm watching the CNN show about the Nixon tapes.

It's déjà-vu all over again...

[UCmeNdc]

52. The GOP! Corruption!

[wnylib]

58. It sure is exciting. - almost too good to be true.

So I have questions.

If the tapes were seized by the FBI in the arrest of Parnas, why are we just hearing about them now?

The FBI director is a dedicated Trumpist. Would he really allow the release of tapes harmful to Trump?

So are the tapes genuine or are they doctored?

If they are copies that Parnas had and voluntarily turned in, what is his motive? To help his case? In what way? Remember, he is a Russian agent.

I absolutely hate to put a damper on the enthusiasm we feel about these tapes, but I would hate it even more if these tapes were found to be doctored or unreliable after being made public.

[disndat]

59. It looks like

Putin's money and Trump are one.

[Vinca]

73. This could get really, really good, really, really fast.

[donkeypoofed]

77. Will.these tapes make a difference? I have doubts.

If not enough Americans want Spanky impeached, the Repukes won't convict him no matter what, truth be damned. I sure hope these tapes turn things around!