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spanone

(135,830 posts)
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:29 AM Nov 2019

How do you beat an opponent who lies about everything and is 100% supported by his political party?

trump lies and every republican lies along with him.

'It could be Ukraine...'

I don't know how you win in a situation like this.

Can a democracy even exist in a world of lies?

...and the echo chamber of fox news

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How do you beat an opponent who lies about everything and is 100% supported by his political party? (Original Post) spanone Nov 2019 OP
Voter turnout Sherman A1 Nov 2019 #1
Only about 30% of each side, Dem and Repube, are guaranteed for that side.... cbdo2007 Nov 2019 #2
Infiltrate his propaganda machine. kentuck Nov 2019 #3
We need to vote them out of office Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2019 #4
and, 80% of the media supports Trump NewJeffCT Nov 2019 #5
Get out the vote. Aristus Nov 2019 #6
... and foreign governments? Cause we know Trump is going to cheat again. uponit7771 Nov 2019 #7
Put is lies on display during debates with visual counters on screens. He's going to lie, just have uponit7771 Nov 2019 #8

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
2. Only about 30% of each side, Dem and Repube, are guaranteed for that side....
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 10:13 AM
Nov 2019

the other 40% in the middle are unintelligent and/or uninformed and/or not interested and/or too busy and/or (fill in probably 1 of 50 more variables) and that 40% are the ones who ultimately decide an election. They could probably reasonably be pulled each direction based on some random issue.

In 2016 (besides Trump cheating of course) people were interested because he is a celebrity, he is perceived to have good business sense, they like someone who communicates directly and doesn't bullsh*t them (lying is different), so he won. I think *most* of those people see him for who he is now, which is a scam artist.

kentuck

(111,089 posts)
3. Infiltrate his propaganda machine.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 10:20 AM
Nov 2019

For example, did you know?:

"Many Trump voters are becoming sick of it all. They will probably not vote at all in the next election? They believe the partisanship is hurting our country and they don't want to be a part of it.

Even though they like Donald Trump, they refuse to support the division that is created around him. They won't vote for Democrats but they will sit out the process if they think it is harming our country."

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As far as we know, the quote above is not real. It is only made up to show what we are up against with the lies of Trump and his accomplices.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
4. We need to vote them out of office
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 10:39 AM
Nov 2019

until their representation in power is proportionate to their actual level of support in this country.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
5. and, 80% of the media supports Trump
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 10:44 AM
Nov 2019

if you consider Fox News, OANN, Sinclair Broadcasting, Cumulus Media, Rush Limbaugh and the vast army of RW hate talk radio stations and hosts, and a large majority of the local and regional newspapers are all extensions of the TrumpGOP

Aristus

(66,328 posts)
6. Get out the vote.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 10:46 AM
Nov 2019

Simple as that.

And if anyone hits you with that old meadow muffin "Well, you know, both sides...", kick him in the teeth, and then go vote.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
8. Put is lies on display during debates with visual counters on screens. He's going to lie, just have
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 10:48 AM
Nov 2019

... a team to display his lies.

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