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Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 05:50 PM Nov 2019

"Rudy's going down every which way."

"Look, I've said all along this was going to be about SDNY and of course our great attorney general basically came in and put a kibosh on some of the ongoing investigations but there are new ones that have surfaced. Thank god for Berman he is letting them happen. Look, I'm like a broken record: It's going to be about money laundering. This is what the Trump Organization has done for 20, 30 years. It's going to be fascinating to see, because Rudy's going down. You see it. Rudy is going down every which way. And then, does Rudy eventually flip on the president? Wouldn't that be the great irony of all this, if that's where this ends? Now, the fact that Rudy Giuliani is tied up in the things that he's tied up in-- He was at one point the mayor of this great city, and led us through 9/11. (This is) in my view the most stunning downfall of any public official I've ever seen. When you kind of go back and look at the cover of Time Magazine, and you look up at where he's ended up now, as a cheap thug or, as John Bolton said, a guy carrying out a drug deal. I have never seen anybody fall so far from grace as that man."

-- Donny Deutsch, Deadline WhiteHouse, November 25, 2019

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getagrip_already

(14,628 posts)
1. bs - ask yourself who is leaking this info...
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 05:55 PM
Nov 2019

It isn't rudy, and it likely isn't the sdny.

This has cipaloni's (sp?) fingerprints on it. Not trumps, and not barr's.

Barr won't allow an indictment while trump objects. That doesn't mean certain players in the wh aren't trying to set him as a fall guy (along with mulvaney).

It may not even be true.

Sorry, I see a major bs alert here. Rudy is not acting like someone being investigated. He is still meddling in ukraine. And he isn't trying to hide it.

MontanaMama

(23,295 posts)
2. I heard this segment on Wallace's show.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 06:44 PM
Nov 2019

I’m skeptical that Rudy is going down. He will keep this charade going as long as Barr is AG.

Hekate

(90,560 posts)
3. Donny D also said he wishes the people in DC hewing to Trump could visit Cohen in prison...
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 07:17 PM
Nov 2019

...just sit with him for an hour, and feel what he is feeling about the consequences of unquestioningly working for Trump.

I think he's right about Rudy's fall. From America's Mayor to a clownish thug for Trump. Eventually the music will stop.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
4. Randy Cunningham, Vietnam Ace and war hero would be a close second.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 07:24 PM
Nov 2019

Second from the left.


Randall Harold "Duke" Cunningham (born December 8, 1941) is an American politician, jet fighter ace, and convicted felon. A Republican... - Wiki

Like Rudy, he turned his back on his country over cash and greed.

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
11. I'd forgotten about him.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 08:13 PM
Nov 2019

I guess that's the whole idea of locking someone up for eight and a half years though.

I had to look him up on Wikkipedia and see he served every friggen day of his sentence. I wonder now what would happen if he were tried today in this political climate. Would republicans circle the wagons now in defense of "mere bribery"?

Certainly Cunningham hasn't learned anything in prison. He's complaining the IRS wiped him out and claiming that he was on meds and knew 90% to 95% of his plea bargain was a lie. He even asked a judge if he could have a gun (he said no).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Cunningham

AdamGG

(1,286 posts)
5. and he's not a 9/11 hero either
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 07:28 PM
Nov 2019

He's the schmuck who ignored expert recommendations not to locate the NYC emergency command center in the World Trade Center after the first bombing attack in 1993.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
8. There were also stories that when the first plane hit, he was in bed with
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 07:35 PM
Nov 2019

his mistress, who he would marry on national tv after divorcing his wife. His police Comish was a total scumbag also.

AdamGG

(1,286 posts)
16. Maybe the best line of Joe Biden's career
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 08:27 PM
Nov 2019

"There's only three things Rudy mentions in a sentence, a noun, a verb and 9/11."

JohnnyRingo

(18,619 posts)
9. Here's a legal conundrum.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 07:42 PM
Nov 2019

I'm no lawyer, but I wonder if Rudy's allowed to give testimony against Trump? If I confide details that would get me in trouble with the law, the last thing I'd expect is for my lawyer to "flip" on me.

It's normally up to the attorney to keep his own nose clean and stay on the right side of the law so I'm not sure how this works out.

yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
15. Attorney/Client priv. does not protect criminal conspiracy.
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 12:48 PM
Nov 2019

Also there is a difference between a lawyer and a "fixer.". Rudy is T-rump's fixer.

FakeNoose

(32,589 posts)
12. Money laundering is not what Chump will be impeached for
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 08:19 PM
Nov 2019

Yes he's guilty and we all know it, but the House has already passed on the money-laundering charges. If the FBI and SDNY can get him, so much the better, but it's frosting on the cake. Chump will be impeached for Ukraine and the quid pro quo. I hope they get Giuliani too, but it's important to get Chump first and foremost. Don't get sidetracked.

CrispyQ

(36,423 posts)
13. He also said Michael Cohen would be an instrumental player in bringing down the Con.
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 12:10 PM
Nov 2019

Once again, I hope he's right, but I wouldn't bet money on it.

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