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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 07:48 PM Nov 2019

The Supreme Court just temporarily stayed the order that Trump turn over his tax records to Congress

But don't get excited or frustrated. This is SOP to grant such a stay pending filing of the petition for a writ of certiorari.

Moreover, the Supreme Court gave Trump until noon December 5 to file his petition. If it's not filed before then, the stay terminates upon expiration of the deadline. If the petition is denied, the stay will terminate immediately.

TRUMP, DONALD J., ET AL. V. MAZARS USA, LLP, ET AL.

The application for stay of the mandate presented to The Chief Justice and by him referred to the Court is granted. The issuance of the mandate of the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, case No. 19-5142, is stayed Pending the filing and disposition of a petition for a writ of certiorari, if such petition is filed on or before December 5, 2019, by noon. Should the petition for a writ of certiorari be denied, this stay shall terminate automatically. In the event the petition for a writ of certiorari is granted, the stay shall terminate upon the issuance of the judgment of this Court. If no petition for a writ of certiorari is filed on or before December 5, 2019, by noon, the stay shall terminate.
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The Supreme Court just temporarily stayed the order that Trump turn over his tax records to Congress (Original Post) StarfishSaver Nov 2019 OP
One question bluestarone Nov 2019 #1
The House had asked that the deadline for Trump to file cert petition be advanced to 12/2 onenote Nov 2019 #16
Actually i fear you are right! bluestarone Nov 2019 #18
you're just a fountain of knowledge CatWoman Nov 2019 #2
Entirely normal procedure - I want to point this out before the hissy fits begin. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #3
Yep! StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #5
Don't scare me like that. I'm old and feeble. dameatball Nov 2019 #4
I have a bit of a problem with this. Doormouse Nov 2019 #6
Fortunately your belief has no basis in or influence on the law StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #7
Congress has no enumerated Constitutional Power to Doormouse Nov 2019 #8
I think you may have stumbled onto the wrong site StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #9
you have failed to consider ... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #15
How does impeachment violate anyone's rights when the Constitution offers impeachment as ... marble falls Dec 2019 #19
Sounds like someone's been watching FoxNews. ehrnst Dec 2019 #21
Your opinion is just that an opinion that does not affect anything. Joe941 Nov 2019 #11
Bill of Rights aren't permitted here? Doormouse Nov 2019 #10
It has nothing to do with the bill of rights. NYC Liberal Nov 2019 #12
right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, Doormouse Nov 2019 #13
They are seeking a court order. That's due process. NYC Liberal Nov 2019 #14
Curious where you got your law degree. onenote Nov 2019 #17
What happened since 1968, especially since Nixon was impeached? Were his rights trampled on? marble falls Dec 2019 #20

onenote

(42,778 posts)
16. The House had asked that the deadline for Trump to file cert petition be advanced to 12/2
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 01:27 AM
Nov 2019

The court decided on 12/5. Still a month earlier than it would be due otherwise and, arguably, in time for the Court to decide whether or not to grant the petition and hear the case at its 12/13 conference. Unlike some who seem convinced that the Court will duck the case, I'm going to be very surprised if they don't vote to take the case (it only takes four votes to grant cert).

bluestarone

(17,062 posts)
18. Actually i fear you are right!
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 10:48 AM
Nov 2019

I'm leaning that way too. They will take it if nothing else just to stall.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,877 posts)
3. Entirely normal procedure - I want to point this out before the hissy fits begin.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 07:51 PM
Nov 2019

If they didn't grant the stay, the cert petition would be moot because the cat would be out of the bag, so to speak.

dameatball

(7,400 posts)
4. Don't scare me like that. I'm old and feeble.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 07:51 PM
Nov 2019

Although I do think I should get a merit badge for one of those. Not sure if it would be for old or feeble. Yes, I was a Boy Scout.

 

Doormouse

(20 posts)
6. I have a bit of a problem with this.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 08:36 PM
Nov 2019

I believe this is a 4th Amendment violation on the part of the House.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,467 posts)
15. you have failed to consider ...
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 01:14 AM
Nov 2019

If any one place his property with another for safe keeping, and there, either through thieves or robbers, his property and the property of the other man be lost, the owner of the house, through whose neglect the loss took place, shall compensate the owner for all that was given to him in charge. But the owner of the house shall try to follow up and recover his property, and take it away from the thief.

marble falls

(57,323 posts)
19. How does impeachment violate anyone's rights when the Constitution offers impeachment as ...
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 05:08 PM
Dec 2019

a process in the hands of Congress for just these specific charges? He certainly has the right to lie, stand mute or tell the truth.

 

Doormouse

(20 posts)
10. Bill of Rights aren't permitted here?
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 09:14 PM
Nov 2019

I'm an old time Democrat. Worked on HHH's campaign.

Bill of Rights are sacrosanct.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
14. They are seeking a court order. That's due process.
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 12:51 AM
Nov 2019

Also, you left out the “against unreasonable searches and seizures” part.

onenote

(42,778 posts)
17. Curious where you got your law degree.
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 02:19 AM
Nov 2019

Apparently at some school that didn't teach you the difference between a warrant and a third party subpoena (and the fact that the probable cause standard applies to the former and not to the latter).

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