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Botany

(70,504 posts)
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 09:37 AM Nov 2019

'War on Thanksgiving' Goes From Fox News to Trump's Rally: 'People Want to Change the Name'

What fresh hell is this? A Fox News made up story now has Donny Dumb Ass pushing this bullshit at one
of his Bund Rallies. Do people really believe this shit? And what DUer started the war on Thanksgiving?

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/war-on-thanksgiving-goes-from-fox-news-to-trumps-rally-people-want-to-change-the-name/


President Donald Trump warned that an unnamed force wants Thanksgiving to be called something other than “Thanksgiving” at a rally Tuesday night, a belief that is likely derived from Fox News segments declaring a “war” on the holiday.

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“Some people want to change the name Thanksgiving,” Trump said at the beginning of his rally in Sunrise, Florida. “They don’t want to use the term Thanksgiving. And that was true also with Christmas. But now everybody is using Christmas again. Remember I said that?”

“People have different ideas why it shouldn’t be called Thanksgiving,” Trump continued. “But everybody in this room I know loves the name Thanksgiving and we’re not changing it.”

snip

This month, an article from HuffPost offered advice on how to have an environmentally friendly Thanksgiving dinner. That story sparked mass coverage at Fox News: it was covered on Fox & Friends, Fox & Friends First, Tucker Carlson Tonight, The Five, Fox News @ Night. It gave us this incredible graphic, spawning the War on Thanksgiving:

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'War on Thanksgiving' Goes From Fox News to Trump's Rally: 'People Want to Change the Name' (Original Post) Botany Nov 2019 OP
My life pretty much revolves around politics and has dewsgirl Nov 2019 #1
I had to look it up this morning underpants Nov 2019 #10
I swear they just make this shit up. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #20
There are some people Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2019 #36
Actually, I have seen that. I think they got so much mileage out dewsgirl Nov 2019 #37
Yeah Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2019 #38
Yes, the mocking is funny. I couldn't care less either dewsgirl Nov 2019 #39
Bullshit. The War on Leftovers, though, is a real thing. rzemanfl Nov 2019 #2
Saturday, huh? Cirque du So-What Nov 2019 #5
There is a secret weapon called "Hot Brown." Look it up. rzemanfl Nov 2019 #19
I've had that - at the Brown too Cirque du So-What Nov 2019 #21
Lucky you. A restaurant in Clearwater, Florida, O'Keefes, serves it. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2019 #22
Glad to see it's gotten around Cirque du So-What Nov 2019 #24
Your reply made me hungry for this- rzemanfl Nov 2019 #27
That looks wonderful Cirque du So-What Nov 2019 #31
It made college worthwhile. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2019 #33
Change the name to what? BlueIdaho Nov 2019 #3
This comes from the place where lies are the currency of the realm. Botany Nov 2019 #4
So this is the "War on Xmas" pre-season? Nice. BlueIdaho Nov 2019 #6
They must be high or lack of oxygen or hysteria or something underpants Nov 2019 #14
According to MSNBC lapfog_1 Nov 2019 #28
Well, in all fairness BlueIdaho Nov 2019 #34
His optics haven't been so well lately The Genealogist Nov 2019 #7
Jeeze...being governed by the evil bastards at Fox News. Liberal In Texas Nov 2019 #8
They got a lot of mileage out of Merry Christmas, so... Frustratedlady Nov 2019 #9
I prefer "Merry Xmas" .nt BlueIdaho Nov 2019 #35
typical "straw man" ploy. Works well with ignorant and dumb people beachbumbob Nov 2019 #11
If you can stomach it watch the video @ the link. Botany Nov 2019 #15
I do not understand minds that wrap around things like this or the "war on Christmas" logosoco Nov 2019 #12
:) It's cover for far less exalted motives than protecting Hortensis Nov 2019 #17
Lol, "What fresh hell is this?" nt Hortensis Nov 2019 #13
The lying motherfucker would love to change Presidents' Day to President Trump's Day dalton99a Nov 2019 #16
And Fox viewers eat this crap up, not even knowing it's entirely OliverQ Nov 2019 #18
To Trump, from my Rep...... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2019 #23
How about we declare a war on Black Friday instead gopiscrap Nov 2019 #25
It's just something to get warmed up for the Big One: The War on Christmas! The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #26
For the right wing christian evangelical process to work they have to persecuted in some way .... Botany Nov 2019 #29
That's why I think we should give them what they want. roamer65 Nov 2019 #44
If Trump changed the name Thanksgiving to Trumpalooza, they'd all be for it, so meh Johonny Nov 2019 #30
Yeah they would.🙄 dewsgirl Nov 2019 #40
On FB I'm seeing postings PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2019 #32
My nephew insists that it is native american genocide day. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #41
It is. roamer65 Nov 2019 #43
Thanksgiving was actually established by Lincoln DeminPennswoods Nov 2019 #42
Fucking teabaggers want to change it to tRumpsgiving. Fucking morons. madinmaryland Nov 2019 #45
Happy ThugsGrovelling Day! Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #46

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
1. My life pretty much revolves around politics and has
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 09:41 AM
Nov 2019

for the last few years. This is the first I'm hearing of it.🙄

underpants

(182,799 posts)
10. I had to look it up this morning
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:09 AM
Nov 2019

I read a mention of it on an article about the rally. Finally found what he said and the background on Fox News.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
36. There are some people
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 01:33 PM
Nov 2019

whom call it "Indigenous People's Day" or are critical of the holiday because of our history of oppression towards Native Americans. But there's no widespread movement to do anything to it AFAIK (and frankly, I couldn't even care if there were).

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
37. Actually, I have seen that. I think they got so much mileage out
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 01:40 PM
Nov 2019

of the war on Christmas, and God knows they need filler, for all crazy crap Trump does, that they won't cover.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
38. Yeah
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 01:47 PM
Nov 2019

They're looking for the next distraction. I'd like to think that most people don't actually care about it one way or another, just like I've never actually met anybody IRL who genuinely believes that there's a "War on Christmas", although some of my podcast friends have taken to mocking the idea in a variety of hilarious sketches

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
19. There is a secret weapon called "Hot Brown." Look it up.
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:32 AM
Nov 2019

If you use it, I will pray for your arteries. Damn delicious though. Wait, you shouldn't have to look it up. Watch for a link here on edit.

Here you go-https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/263453/the-hot-brown/?internalSource=hub%20recipe&referringContentType=Search&clickId=cardslot%201

Cirque du So-What

(25,938 posts)
24. Glad to see it's gotten around
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 11:41 AM
Nov 2019

I hope Derby pie catches on as well. It's basically traditional pecan pie with chocolate chips added. Makes my mouth water just thinking about it.

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
27. Your reply made me hungry for this-
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 12:10 PM
Nov 2019
https://www.thekitchn.com/fudge-bottom-pie-267393

It used to have a different name back in the day. It will be on my list the next time I am in Wisconsin.

Cirque du So-What

(25,938 posts)
31. That looks wonderful
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 12:30 PM
Nov 2019

I don't believe I've had anything quite like that, but now I want to try making it.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
3. Change the name to what?
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 09:46 AM
Nov 2019

This kind of blatant divisive lying is totally unacceptable from our government.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
4. This comes from the place where lies are the currency of the realm.
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 09:58 AM
Nov 2019

"Trump’s apparent belief that Thanksgiving is under attack is likely derived from Fox News, his favorite television network and the originator of the War on Christmas."

From the article @ the link.

underpants

(182,799 posts)
14. They must be high or lack of oxygen or hysteria or something
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:17 AM
Nov 2019

Back in the day my friends and I (usually late in the night) would often take something and starting “riffing it out” and end up with a joke that was 10 steps from the origin. If someone referenced it later we’d all laugh and anyone who wasn’t there at the genesis of it would have NO IDEA what we were talking about.

This reminds me of that...or the first 15 minutes of Hannity’s radio show which is truly bizarre.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
28. According to MSNBC
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 12:13 PM
Nov 2019

last night... there was a completely made up story circulated on right wing web sites during the Obama era that Obama wanted to change the name to "Immigrant's Day" or "Celebrate Immigrants Day". There was never an effort to actually do this... it was completely made up.

Donny do-do and Faux are trying to resurrect this bullshit story.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
34. Well, in all fairness
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 01:08 PM
Nov 2019

Them English immigrants would have died that first winter were it not for the generosity of the indigenous peoples. 😉

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
7. His optics haven't been so well lately
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:03 AM
Nov 2019

Guessing this is another distraction to keep his deplorable base worshipping at his golden statue. Lie, lie, lie. Of Trump were to tell the truth, he'd probably go into anaphylactic shock.

Liberal In Texas

(13,551 posts)
8. Jeeze...being governed by the evil bastards at Fox News.
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:04 AM
Nov 2019

From their heads the on the air through their "talent" into Deadbeat Donnie's head and then it spews out at his rallies.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
9. They got a lot of mileage out of Merry Christmas, so...
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:04 AM
Nov 2019

If they would come up with policies to improve the U.S. instead of talking points, we'd all be better off. I'm so sick and tired of their false issues...or, false errands, as Fiona would call it.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
15. If you can stomach it watch the video @ the link.
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:17 AM
Nov 2019

The paid for "black Trump supporters" behind him are so over the top.

Millions of Americans watch this kind of crap and think they are seeing the truth.
Did you know that Hillary had somebody killed in order to hide Bill's cocaine ring?

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
12. I do not understand minds that wrap around things like this or the "war on Christmas"
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:14 AM
Nov 2019

Let's just pretend for a minute that everyone here on DU really did say there is no Thanksgiving or call it another name. Is that going to pollute the air we breathe and the water we drink? Is this why people are working hard at full time jobs and still having a hard time making the bills? Is that why the health care system in this country is such a mess? Is that what makes education so expensive that people have to go into deep debt?

This is such a stupid cheap distraction and it works so well for some people that they throw all logic and reason out of the window, refuse to see what is right in front of their face and vote for people who are destroying this country and the planet.
Perhaps to my list of things I am thankful for this year is the fact that I have never supported Republicans or any of their policies and I am going to spend the day with my family who also have love and care for their fellow beings.

Happy Turkey Day y'all!

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
18. And Fox viewers eat this crap up, not even knowing it's entirely
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:22 AM
Nov 2019

made up. This is how Fox is destroying the country. Blatant lying and propaganda.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
23. To Trump, from my Rep......
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 11:41 AM
Nov 2019


Text:

Rep. John Yarmuth
@RepJohnYarmuth

What the hell is he talking about? I have already wished more than 100 people Happy Thanksgiving, and I wish him one too.
+++
NBC News @NBCNews
President Trump also claimed that some people want to change the name of Thanksgiving, a controversy he appears to have created.
10:25 AM - Nov 27, 2019

-------------

KY..........

gopiscrap

(23,759 posts)
25. How about we declare a war on Black Friday instead
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 12:04 PM
Nov 2019

and quit glorifying rampant inane consumerism, instead?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
26. It's just something to get warmed up for the Big One: The War on Christmas!
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 12:09 PM
Nov 2019

Then after that they can rest up for a bit until they have to deal with the War on Easter.

Botany

(70,504 posts)
29. For the right wing christian evangelical process to work they have to persecuted in some way ....
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 12:20 PM
Nov 2019

... or another.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
44. That's why I think we should give them what they want.
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 04:26 PM
Nov 2019

Good old Revelation style persecution. Make their dreams come true.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,855 posts)
32. On FB I'm seeing postings
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 12:35 PM
Nov 2019

that say Thanksgiving is such a terrible thing to celebrate because it glorifies the conquering and murdering of the people who were here when Europeans arrived. Okay, so the story of the First Thanksgiving has been largely mythologized, but the reality is many cultures have had either a harvest festival (which is what this really is) or a time set aside to be grateful and give thanks for something or another.

Earlier today I saw one that said we ought to celebrate the day without killing anything living, and had a photo of a vegetarian meal. It took a lot of self control not to point out that the plants were once alive also.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
43. It is.
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 04:24 PM
Nov 2019

90 pct of Native Americans were killed by diseases brought by Euros.

So many of them died that indigenous slave labor was difficult to find, so came another piece of sordid Euro history...the African slave trade.

Your nephew is spot on correct.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
42. Thanksgiving was actually established by Lincoln
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 04:19 PM
Nov 2019

based on a suggestion by the owner of a popular magazine (sort of like Reader's Digest, iirc) to help heal the divisions of the Civil War.

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