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MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:50 AM Nov 2019

Deep State My Red Ass, Donald!

It is not the "Deep State," you moron. It is the permanent state, the stable state, the Constitutional state. It is the constant state that is the fundamental structure of our government.

You, however, are the "Shallow State." You are the temporary state, the aberrant state, the noxious state. You will soon be gone, while the basic structure of our government persists in your absence. You are an evanescent figure, a mortal individual, and will soon be forgotten as anything but a faulty judgement made by our population in 2016.

While you might vaunt yourself as a special sort of President, in truth you are, and will be, nothing more than an asterisk in history. We will remember you, but not favorably. You have failed in living up to the responsibility bestowed on you. Failed miserably.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

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Deep State My Red Ass, Donald! (Original Post) MineralMan Nov 2019 OP
he is the "deep state of distraction. AllaN01Bear Nov 2019 #1
Deep state of disgrace. calimary Nov 2019 #37
Tell him and his enablers malaise Nov 2019 #2
Yes. Well, none of them are listening, I'm afraid. MineralMan Nov 2019 #4
LOL malaise Nov 2019 #5
How about this, Trump 2016 voters DENVERPOPS Nov 2019 #29
"and will be, nothing more than an asterisk in history. " To: RKP5637 Nov 2019 #3
Righteous Rant! Awesome OhNo-Really Nov 2019 #6
Thank you kindly! MineralMan Nov 2019 #7
. raging moderate Nov 2019 #8
BRAVO!!! orangecrush Nov 2019 #9
Thank you! MineralMan Nov 2019 #11
I sincerely hope you are right, MM... Wounded Bear Nov 2019 #10
So do I...So do I... MineralMan Nov 2019 #12
He knows no shame.. Hulk Nov 2019 #13
If our democracy holds, if we're able to push back fascism, rainin Nov 2019 #14
You know, it's going to be up to all of us, right? MineralMan Nov 2019 #15
I believe the democratic numbers will be there. rainin Nov 2019 #16
It depends on if people insist on 'purity The Mouth Nov 2019 #23
+1000 MineralMan Nov 2019 #25
Vast right-wing conspiracy safeinOhio Nov 2019 #17
THAT's the 'deep state' sandensea Nov 2019 #21
When the GOP is in firm control, they justify their actions as "Rule of Law." DemoTex Nov 2019 #18
It's institutional memory jmbar2 Nov 2019 #19
Absolutely right, nt stopwastingmymoney Nov 2019 #35
KR NT ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2019 #20
Trump is the Shallow State aeromanKC Nov 2019 #22
Trump is the poster boy for the DERP State Mr. Ected Nov 2019 #24
Thank you, MineralMan, well said. wendyb-NC Nov 2019 #26
My pleasure! MineralMan Nov 2019 #27
As usual, I agree with all you wrote, MM PJMcK Nov 2019 #28
DERP STATE Skittles Nov 2019 #30
It's the Professional State. Dedicated people who serve USA regardless of who is "presidenting". .nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2019 #31
Donny has no concept of the meaning of "deep" in any way, shape, or form Blue Owl Nov 2019 #32
Well said. Joinfortmill Nov 2019 #33
(Not a faulty judgment of our population.... lastlib Nov 2019 #34
Amen! "The Shallow State" is perfect. nolabear Nov 2019 #36

calimary

(81,192 posts)
37. Deep state of disgrace.
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 08:47 AM
Nov 2019

Last edited Thu Nov 28, 2019, 01:19 PM - Edit history (1)

That’s YOU, donald.

Actually, I could have left the subject line as I garbled it, originally.

I went back to this page again a little while after the fact and discovered I’d accidentally written “Derp state of disgrace.” That actually fits, too!

DENVERPOPS

(8,804 posts)
29. How about this, Trump 2016 voters
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 03:46 PM
Nov 2019

How about this, Trump 2016 voters......Talk up trump for 2020 election, hell, even wear your maga hat to and from the polls, but for the sake of us, you and the nation, vote for the Democrat. You don't have to even admit you were wrong for goodness sake.....

We won't even mind if after the election, and the Dem is elected by a landslide, you say to everyone out loud that you can't figure it out, you and all of your associates voted for Trump etc etc etc

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
3. "and will be, nothing more than an asterisk in history. " To:
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 11:00 AM
Nov 2019

and will be, nothing more than an asshole in history.

raging moderate

(4,296 posts)
8. .
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 11:34 AM
Nov 2019

Also known as "government of the people, by the people, for the people." I remember that Abraham Lincoln recommended it highly.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
13. He knows no shame..
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 11:46 AM
Nov 2019

...and yet he is, without a doubt, the most shameful of human beings in recent history. A real deplorable excuse of a man...and so much less.

rainin

(3,010 posts)
14. If our democracy holds, if we're able to push back fascism,
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 11:52 AM
Nov 2019

I predict it won't be long before you can't find anyone who will admit to supporting trump.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
15. You know, it's going to be up to all of us, right?
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 11:54 AM
Nov 2019

Are we ready to turn this around? I'm not sure. Will we go out and bring voters to the polls to do that? I don't know.

I keep hoping.

rainin

(3,010 posts)
16. I believe the democratic numbers will be there.
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 12:05 PM
Nov 2019

What I'm not sure of is how effective the election tampering will be. Because of the electoral college, they may only have to target a few blue counties in a few red states to steal it again. Democrats consistently have more votes.

Brace yourself for some ugly election interference.

The Mouth

(3,148 posts)
23. It depends on if people insist on 'purity
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 01:54 PM
Nov 2019

As President Obama correctly noted.

If you're gay, and the nominee's straight - VOTE ANYWAY
If you're female and the nominee's male - VOTE ANYWAY
If you're a POC and the candidate is not only white but not perceived as especially sensitive to racial issues- VOTE ANYWAY
If you consider issue 'X' overwhelmingly important, but our nominee has issue 'Y' front and center - VOTE ANYWAY.

I think what most matters is getting out ALL of our vote, yes even if someone is highly progressive and the nominee is Joe, or a person of color and the nominee is Pete, or suspicious of tech bros and the nominee is Yang or doesn't believe that single-payer is the way and the nominee is Warren.

We have to turn out ALL of us, regardless of what we think of the nominee; goodness knows there are acouple I'd be holding my nose for, but hold my nose I will, and anyone who wouldn't DESERVES everything Trump will do to them (even if we don't).

sandensea

(21,620 posts)
21. THAT's the 'deep state'
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 01:21 PM
Nov 2019

All these doctrinaire armageddonists, corpo-fascists, neo-confederates, and outright neo-nazis the GOPee has been burrowing into the many federal (and state) agencies and courts since the Reagan years.

Starting with Cheeto himself, an infiltrator if there ever was one.

DemoTex

(25,392 posts)
18. When the GOP is in firm control, they justify their actions as "Rule of Law."
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 12:11 PM
Nov 2019

When the GOP is losing control, or not in control, it becomes "Deep State."

jmbar2

(4,869 posts)
19. It's institutional memory
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 12:29 PM
Nov 2019

I used to consult in the oil and gas industry. The deep knowledge of how to run chemical plants and refineries safely is called institutional memory.

Some of the oldest refineries along the gulf coast were built more than a century ago. They have been upgraded and modernized along the way, but they're still a patchwork of old and new in many cases. It's the old timers who know where the duct tape and bailing wire are holding it together.

The goal of training in these plants is to make sure that new generations of workers can seamlessly take over when the old timers retire or die. The official processes and procedures are all documented. But some things just cannot be documented well - the sounds, smells, and subtle indicators that something is wrong, and where the improvised patches are. You have to pair the young folks with the oldtimers on the job for a long time to learn that.

I'm sure it's the same in many industries - aerospace, medicine, nuclear reactors and government.

In other words, the deep knowledge/deep state is what keeps the planes flying, the refineries, nuclear reactors and power plants from blowing up vast parts of the U.S. It's what enables our government to keep us safe and prosperous.

No wonder our enemies want to undermine the "deep state"!

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
24. Trump is the poster boy for the DERP State
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 01:55 PM
Nov 2019

But I like Shallow State even more, MM. Shallow like most if not all of his followers.

Blue Owl

(50,335 posts)
32. Donny has no concept of the meaning of "deep" in any way, shape, or form
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 09:08 PM
Nov 2019

Except maybe when it comes to debt...

lastlib

(23,200 posts)
34. (Not a faulty judgment of our population....
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 11:29 PM
Nov 2019

....but a calculated interference by a hostile foreign power.)

I agree with everything else you said. Although his evil and his hostility to democracy are profound, they (and he) are ephemeral. I would add, however, that those who follow him will seek to perpetuate what he has been, and we must be eternally vigilant against them.

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