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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 07:29 PM Nov 2019

Richard Spencer: I was fired as Navy secretary. Here's what I've learned because of it.

Richard Spencer: I was fired as Navy secretary. Here’s what I’ve learned because of it.

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President Trump involved himself in the case almost from the start. Before the trial began, in March, I received two calls from the president asking me to lift Gallagher’s confinement in a Navy brig; I pushed back twice, because the presiding judge, acting on information about the accused’s conduct, had decided that confinement was important. Eventually, the president ordered me to have him transferred to the equivalent of an enlisted barracks. I came to believe that Trump’s interest in the case stemmed partly from the way the defendant’s lawyers and others had worked to keep it front and center in the media.

After the verdict was delivered, the Navy’s normal process wasn’t finished. Gallagher had voluntarily submitted his request to retire. In his case, there were three questions: Would he be permitted to retire at the rank of chief, which is also known as an E-7? (The jury had said he should be busted to an E-6, a demotion.) The second was: Should he be allowed to leave the service with an “honorable” or “general under honorable” discharge? And a third: Should he be able to keep his Trident pin, the medal all SEALs wear and treasure as members of an elite force?

On Nov. 14, partly because the president had already contacted me twice, I sent him a note asking him not to get involved in these questions. The next day, White House Counsel Pat Cipollone called me and said the president would remain involved. Shortly thereafter, I received a second call from Cipollone who said the president would order me to restore Gallagher to the rank of chief.

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Given my desire to resolve a festering issue, I tried to find a way that would prevent the president from further involvement while trying all avenues to get Gallagher’s file in front of a peer-review board. Why? The Naval Special Warfare community owns the Trident pin, not the secretary of the Navy, not the defense secretary, not even the president. If the review board concluded that Gallagher deserved to keep it, so be it.

More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/richard-spencer-i-was-fired-as-navy-secretary-heres-what-ive-learned-because-of-it/2019/11/27/9c2e58bc-1092-11ea-bf62-eadd5d11f559_story.html
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Richard Spencer: I was fired as Navy secretary. Here's what I've learned because of it. (Original Post) MelissaB Nov 2019 OP
Wow, the comments are all damning to Trump, at least the 1st page of them I read. Liberty Belle Nov 2019 #1
Trump cultists don't read the Washington post Kablooie Nov 2019 #2
Some do shanti Nov 2019 #8
I blame Fux Ruse for selling this BS to the fake prez. BigmanPigman Nov 2019 #3
They aren't a news organization. SergeStorms Nov 2019 #12
That reminds me of a fairly recent comment by Sarah BigmanPigman Nov 2019 #14
Apparently she's never watched...... SergeStorms Nov 2019 #15
I hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving too! BigmanPigman Nov 2019 #16
I didn't think he'd go public. JohnnyRingo Nov 2019 #4
I would think...... MyOwnPeace Nov 2019 #9
Maybe the whistle blowers will gain in numbers... JohnnyRingo Nov 2019 #13
"Fired Navy Sec. Pens Scorched Earth Op-Ed on Trump's 'Shocking and Unprecedented' Intervention" highplainsdem Nov 2019 #5
What did Spenser expect when he signed on to work with a psychologically infantile racist pig? NNadir Nov 2019 #6
THIS !!!! uponit7771 Nov 2019 #17
trump is nothing more than an insane man who became president of the united states of america spanone Nov 2019 #7
the moron is president of Fux gnew's bullshit mountain only. pansypoo53219 Nov 2019 #10
Now THAT... MyOwnPeace Nov 2019 #11

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
3. I blame Fux Ruse for selling this BS to the fake prez.
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 08:43 PM
Nov 2019

It proves that you can sell any BS to him as long as it is on Fux. This is very dangerous for the country. The "media" is specifically FUX Ruse and not legitimate media. Talk about fake news, they invented the term. Americans eat it up since they are dumber than fucking dirt just like their dear leader.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
12. They aren't a news organization.
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 10:27 PM
Nov 2019

They have hosts who disguise themselves as journalists, but they're nothing more than TV personalities who present their opinions as news. It's a shame FUX viewers don't realize the difference, but if they did, they wouldn't be FUX viewers.

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
14. That reminds me of a fairly recent comment by Sarah
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 11:24 PM
Nov 2019

Fuckubee Sanders (who I believe appears on Fux but since I don't watch it I have never seen her). She said that News programs are no longer news but just people spewing their opinions from panels. Seems hypocritical of her, doesn't it. She is the queen of propaganda and BS lies.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
15. Apparently she's never watched......
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 01:57 AM
Nov 2019

anything else but FUX Noise, or listened to anything but reich-wing radio, because there is actual news to be found out there. No one will ever find it on the 24/7 reich-wing propaganda outlets though. I detest then entire Huckleberry family. They're so holy and patriotic.

Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours, BigmanPigman!

JohnnyRingo

(18,623 posts)
4. I didn't think he'd go public.
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 08:46 PM
Nov 2019

Though he's not an active service member, it's rare that someone on the military side would speak out. He must be steaming.

Remember, since Trump appointed him he must be a friend or donor, or at least he used to be. Another book deal?

Trump has made so many enemies in his own cabinet, you'd think their sheer numbers would be moving the approval polls.

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
9. I would think......
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 09:04 PM
Nov 2019

that if it was "a book deal" that he's jumped the gun. Do like Yosemite Sam, er, John Bolton has done: drag it out, keep your name out there, let you lawyer/agent find a book deal, then do the TV circuit - GO FOR THE BUCKS!!!!!

Looks like another true American patriot to me.........

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
6. What did Spenser expect when he signed on to work with a psychologically infantile racist pig?
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 08:56 PM
Nov 2019

Someone who didn't glory in killing brown children and displaying them like deer?

spanone

(135,815 posts)
7. trump is nothing more than an insane man who became president of the united states of america
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 09:00 PM
Nov 2019

go figure

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
11. Now THAT...
Wed Nov 27, 2019, 09:28 PM
Nov 2019

gets to the bottom line - and correctly so.

It is our duty to make him gone - and that's the truth!

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