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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"I don't understand why you're walking around this neighborhood w/ a bunch a packages" to black UPS
Link to tweet
The woman has not immediately been identified, but said she lives in the area where the Peters, a seasonal worker, was delivering several postal items.
'I'm going to need someone's information to check up on you, because I don't understand why you're walking around this neighborhood with a bunch a packages,' the woman says at the beginning of the video.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7734061/White-woman-calls-police-black-UPS-man-delivering-packages-nervous.html
When Peters expresses that the woman is bothering him, she explains that the man's presence made her 'nervous.'
'I'm not bothering you,' she says. 'I want to complain to UPS that you look very suspicious and making me nervous.'
She then goes on to explain her apprehension, citing past break-ins that occurred in the area.
Peters then proceeds to turn the camera around and show what appears to be a company issued jacket with the official emblem attached.
Later, Peters also shows his work dolly carrying a pile of packages meant to be delivered.
At one point the woman retreats to her home, but reappears to allegedly take pictures of the man and record him.
In a separate clip, the woman says she has called the police as a second UPS worker comes into frame and begins speaking to the woman.
It is unclear what occurs after the video ends.
Since is initial posting, the video has been shared on Twitter and has quickly gone viral.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Americans, hourly.😔
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)This woman needs to get a JOB, so she can stop harassing honest workers. Who does she think she is, the neighborhood watch commander? So now it is against the law to deliver for UPS while black? She made a complete ASS of herself. I wish to apologize to the gentleman for the ignorant white people among us. We are NOT all like her.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)American, but also ashamed to be white.😔 I hope there are people that were able to reach out to him.SMH
pangaia
(24,324 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)raccoon
(31,110 posts)rpannier
(24,329 posts)I was going to write a snarky response, but nothing I could write would be as ignorant, stupid and pathetic
People wonder why so many of us have flat foreheads now
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)#slowhumansareslow
pangaia
(24,324 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts)obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)If you are literally in fear of someone, you observe, then call the cops if need be. Some people get a gun and shoot them, because they are sociopaths on THAT way. What non-racist/sociopaths do is just call the cops.
This woman is a racist and entitled POS.
cyclonefence
(4,483 posts)"my god, I hope she doesn't come back with a gun."
Alithea
(99 posts)Some type of paranoia.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)Seriously, this response reminds me of the old adage:
If theyre African-American, theyre thugs.
If theyre Muslim, theyre terrorists.
If theyre Latinx, theyre illegals.
If theyre white
they must be mentally-ill.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)To be honest, I havent read all of Alitheas posts on DU, so I dont know if this poster does what you are accusing them of.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Alithea
(99 posts)Alithea
(99 posts)The adage is used to explain the discriminatory assumption that is unfortunately often applied to people who commit violent offences: the assumption that a black, Hispanic, or Muslim perpetrator committed the offence because of some personal choice (or identity group flaw) for which he should be held accountable, while not considering the possibility of mental illness, - but that a white person is readily offered that possibility and excuse of mental illness. That is true and a very fair criticism. I agree with it entirely.
The reason the adage is true is because it is equally possible to accuse or excuse a black, Hispanic, Muslim, or white person for a violent offence (Eg. a shooting spree, domestic violence). Violent offenders come in all colors and religions.
Thats also why it doesnt apply when the offence is an accusation of racism. No black, Hispanic, or Muslim person could be similarly accused.
When the supposed racism manifests as a completely unwarranted suspicion, its important to remember that paranoia is a central feature of several mental health disorders. The more unwarranted the suspicion and the more bizarre the behavior, the more likely it is that its caused by a mental health issue.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)It was more like the NSA is spying on me type of paranoia but to me as someone with schizophrenic symptoms she seems like a normal racist to me.
I think all racism is unwarranted.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)She is a raging bigot, period.
Alithea
(99 posts)or she might be paranoid schizophrenic, or drunk, or all of the above, or none of the above. What is clear from her gait and speech is that she is mentally incapacitated in some way.
If I understand you correctly, your problem with my comment is that I havent piled on enough hate. That I havent joined in the chorus of calumny. That I have dared to point out that the person looks unwell.
I wont be bullied into being a hater.
Its what the Russian bots would want and I dont intend to add to their success.
I also object as matter of principle. Hate is never the antidote to hate. It begets more hate, it corrodes the soul of the hater, it blinds, and it creates more problems than it solves.
On all sides - we need to try to reign in our worst instincts, and model values and behaviours that promote the public good.
RandiFan1290
(6,229 posts)What's going on?
lunasun
(21,646 posts)She said she is going to need to get some information on him
Nowadays twitter will reciprocate her wish back at her
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,229 posts)Mostly women in these recent videos
Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)
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ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)Is that a badge she's wearing on her left hip? If so, is she Barney Fifing?
Second, anyone know why the UPS logo came out backwards in that pic? I don't take enough photos to know why that would happen.
I know these aren't directly related to the OP, just curiosity.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)I think.
The UPS is flipped because he switched to his front-facing camera on his phone to make sure it was framed in the shot.
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)Used a letterhead, put it on my chest.
Flipped phone around, but logo pic is normal.
Is there a mirror image feature on some phones?
Codeine
(25,586 posts)My iPhone mirrors when I do it. Maybe theres a setting or something.
Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #14)
Chin music This message was self-deleted by its author.
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)Yeah, that makes because I tested the camera turn around thing and image was normal!
Back at you, Chin! Don't get too stuffed!
LiberalFighter
(50,888 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)Perhaps there's a mirror image setting that is off on mine.
I tried both lenses, flipped each way and always got a normal image.
Took pics of big TV with guitars hanging to each side. The guitars were always in the right place and graphics on screen were readable like normal.
Gotta be some option on the camera, I don't know about.
LiberalFighter
(50,888 posts)On mine, the default is to take photo as if it wasn't really a selfie. If I go into settings and change it then it will be all backwards.
Personally, I think the default should be as a real image and not mirror.
CurtEastPoint
(18,639 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Not a bit of south in her mouth.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,229 posts)Especially at the very beginning.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)RandiFan1290
(6,229 posts)She sounds 'south' to me.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)guess we'll find out eventually.
Silent3
(15,202 posts)...doesn't make her nervous, and she immediately treats him as someone to take her complaints about the black UPS worker, not demanding his ID, or telling him about the bad things happening in the neighborhood first?
Demovictory9
(32,448 posts)dalton99a
(81,451 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)James48
(4,435 posts)Her mannerisms were more like on meth.
Slurred some words, yet jerky movement.
obamanut2012
(26,068 posts)RACIST.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)Ever.
spanone
(135,823 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)If I see a black guy (or anybody, for that matter) wearing a UPS uniform and delivering packages, I'd be inclined to suspect that he's working for UPS. But hey, that's just me; what do I know?
There are some fucked-up people in this country.
writes3000
(4,734 posts)which engaged and enraged black people.
Im not blaming the OP but I hope were recognizing patterns as we come to 2020. I think its purposeful.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)This particular incident was so weird that I don't think even a Russian troll could have made it up.
writes3000
(4,734 posts)We just have to be aware of how this stuff is being used to get people to gang up against each other. The trolls gain followers off of tweets like these and suddenly they will start posting about how none of the Dem nominees actually care about black people...
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)Alithea
(99 posts)1) From minorities, by gaining followers through clickbait of extreme examples, and then accusing Dem nominees of not caring, and
2) From independents and moderate whites, by making it seem like the party has been taken over by an extremist wing that is grinding an ax against all whites, no matter how innocent or supportive they are (eg. Bernie), and then accusing Dem nominees of not caring.
If we're going to defeat the Offal in the Office, we're gonna need every vote we can get.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)As the work of Russian trolls. If people stop thinking for themselves the Russian trolls win.
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)That America has a never ending supply of racist white ladies, who believe that theyre entitled to use the police to oppress any Black person within their presence.
Its not just the racist aspect of it, its the sheer audacity of their willingness to police Black bodies personally, under the rubric being afraid of those same Black bodies, merely because theyre inability to cope with their own episode of race based stress.
These white people see a Black body in an area where theyve designated it in their own minds as a whites only space, they then become uncomfortable with that fact and then go on to conflate their own discomfort around Black people with some threat to their own safety.
Its ridiculous to most people of course, but to whites who have been conditioned to have anti-Black bias for their entire lives, it makes perfect sense.
Thank goodness for cell phones videos and YouTube, because its not out of the realm of possibility for these racially stressed and entitled white women cry rape or whatever, whenever Black people are doing nothing more than going about their own business.
In the past, thats how a Black man could get lynched.
Iggo
(47,549 posts)Shine a light on 'em.
ck4829
(35,045 posts)doc03
(35,325 posts)one day recently he got a call from a women saying that 2 black guys were it her neighborhood. He ask her if they were breaking the law or something and she says they shouldn't be in this neighborhood. So anyway they dispached a cop to check them out and they were just walking. They got another call a while later from this women again complaining that they were still there. He told her that the cops talked to them and they were not breaking any laws. She said I don't care they shouldn't be here they should be picked up. He tried to convince her this is a free country and cops just can't arrest people for walking down the wrong street. She went off yellling that's what is wrong with this country the blacks can get away with anything and the cops are afraid to touch them.
tulipsandroses
(5,123 posts)Its completely outrageous. Not only racist. Potentially putting the lives of the young men in danger. Its a waste tax payers dollars. The time it takes to send the police officers to check on nonsense, that she knows is nonsense, they could be doing more constructive things for the public. She could be diverting them from investigating real criminals.
I do not understand why more is not being done about these people that do this. Until we start to impose stiff fines and punishment they are going to continue to use the police as their personal body guards against people they think do not belong in "their spaces".
krispos42
(49,445 posts)A brief lecture on fiat currancy and wage labor would have been awesome.