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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
3. That Jewish guy who said you have to feed the poor, aid the sick,
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 10:25 AM
Nov 2019

visit the prisoner, welcome the immigrant, that guy? They'd crucify him again if he did come back.


(21,995 posts)
2. Can someone please explain Christians' support of Trump?
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 10:24 AM
Nov 2019


I was raised as a Christian. I studied the Bible for many years and attended church regularly. I participated in all aspects of the congregations I belonged to and embraced the philosophy espoused by the Biblical Jesus.

Although I no longer believe in that faith, I still respect the teachings and try to apply the Golden Rule to my life.

How do so-called Christians square the circle of supporting Trump? The hypocrisy is beyond contemptible and that's a part of the reason I've rejected organized religions.


(23,478 posts)
4. I am a Jew. My opinion is they are the Jews who worshiped the golden calf in
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 10:26 AM
Nov 2019

the old testament.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
6. I think that for them, politics has overcome theology.
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 10:42 AM
Nov 2019

And it wasn't abortion that got the "religious right" organized at first, it was racism. It all started with the early evangelical movement around the turn of the century. After Brown v. Board of Education a lot of evangelical churches in the South started their own schools so their kids wouldn't have to go to integrated schools. Then, after Roe v. Wade, they made common cause with Catholics, who opposed abortion, to increase the power of their movement. By the mid-80's the evangelical right had started exerting real political influence, and as a result GOP politicians had to start pandering to them. The bottom line is that the leaders of the movement became more concerned with power than in doctrine. They give Trump a pass because he is giving them what they want - the racist and anti-abortion policies they've been seeking for decades, and they offer the excuse that even though he's "flawed" he's doing God's work so it's OK. Here's a good explanation: https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/11/21/explaining-unbreakable-bond-between-donald-trump-white-evangelicals/


(16,993 posts)
7. As one explained to me while she was
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 10:46 AM
Nov 2019

advocating arresting homeless people for being homeless, sometimes you have to compromise to achieve your goals. She’s a minister of all things and wanted me to support her sick idea. It was a short conversation.


(3,473 posts)
9. I think it would take an experienced psychologist more than a few pages to do so.
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 08:26 PM
Nov 2019

So much of what the right-wing stands for is in opposition to the teachings of Christ, especially when it comes to treatment of the poor and immigrants.

Otto Lidenbrock

(581 posts)
8. This is the only picture of the two together
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 08:15 PM
Nov 2019

Jimmy was President of the United States. Considering he was elected to clean up the corrosive stench of Nixon, it's wild that the starstruck young man would end up having that job and turn out to be even more corrupt with Jimmy alive to witness it.


(3,722 posts)
10. reminds me of the photos of Obama and Reagan
Thu Nov 28, 2019, 08:31 PM
Nov 2019

one orchestrated the killing of the 9/11 mastermind, the other traded arms for hostages with a country that is a state sponsor of terrorism.

guess which one got accused of "appeasing terrorists".


(3,678 posts)
13. Christianity depends on enemies. That's what the devil is, but fighting him gives no gratification.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 03:20 AM
Nov 2019

Hurting other humans (that you decide are enemies) gives you instant gratification.

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