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Bishop Talbert Swan telling it like it is, calling out evangelicals........ (Original Post) Takket Nov 2019 OP
Sickening display of religious hypocrisy Martin Eden Nov 2019 #1
"Things happen for a reason"... czarjak Nov 2019 #2
Ok I'll go with that: Thank You God for delivering the Impeachment Power to the people. usaf-vet Nov 2019 #6
OK, in the Bible God sends a lot of stuff Zambero Nov 2019 #3
Right, and Stormy Daniels is Mary Magdalene...next. YOHABLO Nov 2019 #4
God ran out of locusts. The next best thing was the Trump Family. nt Buns_of_Fire Nov 2019 #5
+1,000 Not everything God has sent down was peaches and fairy dust. Maraya1969 Nov 2019 #23
Good one. n/t PatrickforO Dec 2019 #36
Matthew 7:15 safeinOhio Nov 2019 #7
TV evangelists demosincebirth Nov 2019 #21
Jesus called them Pharisees cutroot Nov 2019 #8
It finally dawned on me, these extremists really believe God put Trump in office for a reason. Pepsidog Nov 2019 #9
That is one fucked up god. Delmette2.0 Nov 2019 #10
K&R, I'm with you. All folks have to do is read some secular history. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2019 #15
I had a series of small awakening moments. Delmette2.0 Nov 2019 #16
Number one fear these days for evangelicals...... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2019 #18
LOL Delmette2.0 Nov 2019 #19
Your second paragraph SonofDonald Dec 2019 #24
It's possible that believing in Biblegod. . . Collimator Dec 2019 #34
"Apostates" Is Exactly Right! corbettkroehler Nov 2019 #11
Jim Wallis of Sojourners said republicans and churches that teach republicanism are teaching a rwsanders Nov 2019 #12
I like the way the bishop thinks. Karadeniz Nov 2019 #13
"It would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and be drowned struggle4progress Nov 2019 #14
Proverbs 31:8-9 NIV dustyscamp Nov 2019 #17
Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Nov 2019 #20
So do these people believe that Obama was chosen also? I mean what's the dif? Maraya1969 Nov 2019 #22
Demon? murielm99 Dec 2019 #25
Revelations 13-5 TexasBushwhacker Dec 2019 #26
Interesting indeed. BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2019 #33
Very odd how they are coming out of the woodwork StarryNite Dec 2019 #28
It never ceases to amaze me. Xolodno Dec 2019 #27
God either needs a new plan or... StarryNite Dec 2019 #29
BOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM! calimary Dec 2019 #30
Thank you, Bishop Swan! Cha Dec 2019 #31
It's been done before and I don't just mean wnylib Dec 2019 #32
Jesus wants all Televanglists to delivery their wives, girl friends, and NCjack Dec 2019 #35
We're Taking Names yellowwoodII Dec 2019 #37

usaf-vet

(6,186 posts)
6. Ok I'll go with that: Thank You God for delivering the Impeachment Power to the people.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 03:17 PM
Nov 2019

We appreciate the power to banish this evil tyrant from our presidency.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
3. OK, in the Bible God sends a lot of stuff
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 02:40 PM
Nov 2019

Plagues, famines, fire and brimstone. All sent by God. One could pose the argument that Trump's ascension to the presidency would fit in neatly with those "divine offerings".

safeinOhio

(32,677 posts)
7. Matthew 7:15
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 03:33 PM
Nov 2019

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolfs.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
9. It finally dawned on me, these extremists really believe God put Trump in office for a reason.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 03:49 PM
Nov 2019

A friend of mine told me when Trump won it was God’s plan. I never understood that until I saw Rick Perry in this interview. They really believe God put Trump there for a reason. Perry said it was God’s plan that Obama was President. I wonder if they would still say that if Mayor Pete wins.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,491 posts)
15. K&R, I'm with you. All folks have to do is read some secular history.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 05:04 PM
Nov 2019

After my "enlightenment" in my 40s, it hit me strange about a god being a "him" (not meaning to pick on you here at all).

If one were to believe in a massively powerful, controlling being in our universe, why would any rational being think it would have human-like sex characteristics, show prejudice or favoritism toward any living thing, believe it communicates only with some select humans, or even recognize our very existence at all? Our solar system is but a grain of sand in the universe, at best - relative to all the grains of sand on earth.

One tiny element (of many) in my wake-up process was when I read that Sigmund Freud said (paraphrasing) the minute our ancestors first stood up on two legs and became a little self-aware, we started inventing gods to help cope with the realities of life. We're still inventing, modifying and defining them to fit our needs to this day.

KY........

Delmette2.0

(4,165 posts)
16. I had a series of small awakening moments.
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 05:20 PM
Nov 2019

I won't list them here but it took me a long time to acknowledge that I really didn't believe in any of their bullshit.

Collimator

(1,639 posts)
34. It's possible that believing in Biblegod. . .
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 09:16 AM
Dec 2019

. . . was one step higher than believing in Zeus--who not only had human-like sex characteristics, but also had sex with humans. Maybe people felt relieved because Biblegod only had sorta-kinda sex with one woman.

rwsanders

(2,603 posts)
12. Jim Wallis of Sojourners said republicans and churches that teach republicanism are teaching a
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 04:21 PM
Nov 2019

"perverted gospel" (from the book God's Politics)

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
14. "It would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and be drowned
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 05:00 PM
Nov 2019

in the depths of the sea"

Matthew 18

dustyscamp

(2,224 posts)
17. Proverbs 31:8-9 NIV
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 05:26 PM
Nov 2019

Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute. Speak up and judge fairly; defend the rights of the poor and needy.

I don't see Trump or anyone on the Right doing this

Maraya1969

(22,480 posts)
22. So do these people believe that Obama was chosen also? I mean what's the dif?
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:24 PM
Nov 2019

But I will also that if his DEMON (yea that's the word I'm choosing to use) in the White House continue to wake up a whole lot of people to what is really important and causes a true big blue wave then maybe he has been chosen by God. We'll see in a couple years. If the country turns blue then Donald Trump will have made America great again.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,190 posts)
26. Revelations 13-5
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 01:55 AM
Dec 2019

Revelation 13:5, NIV: "The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months."

There are people who believe Trump will leave office, one way or another, in July 2020. I'm an atheist, but it would be interesting if that came to pass.

StarryNite

(9,445 posts)
28. Very odd how they are coming out of the woodwork
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 02:04 AM
Dec 2019

saying tRump was chosen by Gawd but they never said Obama was.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
27. It never ceases to amaze me.
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 02:04 AM
Dec 2019

They twisted them into a pretzel trying to prove Obama wasn't a Christian. But with clear evidence Trump's only religion is himself, they twist themselves into a pretzel trying to profess he is a Christian.

I liken it to the "beggar paradox". Republican helps out at the food bank that gives out to beggars and illegal immigrants. After he's done, he goes to the store and a beggar asks for food, which he then screams at him to get a job. Then goes home and turns on Fox News and starts raging against the immigrants taking away jobs.

wnylib

(21,465 posts)
32. It's been done before and I don't just mean
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 08:24 AM
Dec 2019

the Middle Ages and early modern times when Europeans believed in the divine right of kings.

I realize that the kind of comparison I am going to make is often overused, but this is a perfect match for how Nazi leadership portrayed Adolf to the people. "God on our side" is a perfect excuse for any action, no matter how atrocious.

When we think of Nazi Germany, we immediately think of the Holocaust and shy away from making comparisons to anything so horrible. In doing that, we remain ignorant of how it started and built up to the nightmare that it became. We should look more at the early years of that period to see how the later years were possible. An ounce of prevention.......

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
35. Jesus wants all Televanglists to delivery their wives, girl friends, and
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 12:06 PM
Dec 2019

daughters to him at Mar-a-Logo. Those he likes will stay over and party with him -- the others should go home immediately.

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