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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:53 PM Nov 2019

I am so glad Pelosi didn't launch impeachment immediately after the Mueller Report was released

All she had to go with then was a heavily redacted report that Barr and Trump had a weeks-long headstart and the assistance of a gullible/complicit media to frame and distort the narrative. The key witnesses were Trump campaign and administration officials who would never comply with subpoenas and, even if they did show up, they'd just invoke executive privilege or the Fifth Amendment.

Nothing would have come of it. We probably wouldn't even gotten enough Democratic votes to impeach. And it would be over. Impeachment would now be just a failed effort we're looking at in the rearview mirror.

Even now, after a stream of extremely credible, compelling witnesses who testified unequivocally about, not some murky, difficult to understand and more difficult to prove conspiracy with Russia, but very clear, obvious bribery and other corruption by Trump himself and obstruction of justice in plain view and in real time, the public is still not yet clamoring for impeachment and removal.

Fortunately, Pelosi played this perfectly, not just waiting for the right time to move, but spreading the process out over several months and several separate committees so that a solid case can be built. And the Democrats are in full charge of the rollout, trigger points and outcomes.

This may be moving slowly, but we're in full control.

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I am so glad Pelosi didn't launch impeachment immediately after the Mueller Report was released (Original Post) StarfishSaver Nov 2019 OP
She's pretty damn sharp. flying rabbit Nov 2019 #1
And the Speaker will continue to give us the best chance to make the empedocles Nov 2019 #7
She knows her stuff mcar Nov 2019 #2
I trust Pelosi. sheshe2 Nov 2019 #3
Same Here Me. Nov 2019 #4
Ikr? StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #6
That's ludicrous.. Nancy waited for the perfect Cha Dec 2019 #17
Speaker Nancy to VP Nancy...I like the idea of a Vice President Pelosi pbmus Nov 2019 #5
the wheels of justice roll slow, but they roll exceedingly fine. mopinko Nov 2019 #8
That smile SonofDonald Nov 2019 #9
Nancy rocks! Experience we can TRUST! NurseJackie Dec 2019 #10
Ita. Pelosi knows how to bring the public along, brer cat Dec 2019 #11
K&R ismnotwasm Dec 2019 #12
I'm glad she eventually jumped on board. egduj Dec 2019 #13
Lol StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #14
jumped on board WHAT? stopdiggin Dec 2019 #16
guffaw NBachers Dec 2019 #18
omg.. Nancy didn't "jump" anywhere.. trump Cha Dec 2019 #19
I'm in agreement with you. lunatica Dec 2019 #15
The White House was working against Mueller.... Xolodno Dec 2019 #20

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
7. And the Speaker will continue to give us the best chance to make the
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 11:21 PM
Nov 2019

most of this - even if it takes more time than most expect.

mcar

(42,331 posts)
2. She knows her stuff
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 11:06 PM
Nov 2019

Some thought they knew better. But she knows her stuff - which is, BTW, the Constitution.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
4. Same Here
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 11:10 PM
Nov 2019

Always makes me laugh when Jason Johnson is on. He used to rip her apart and can't quite bring himself to say she was right to wait so he says he's glad she was finally pushed to give in.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
6. Ikr?
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 11:17 PM
Nov 2019

I love these folks who now claim they pressured Pelosi into moving, even though it's obvious she started laying the groundwork months ago.

Cha

(297,230 posts)
17. That's ludicrous.. Nancy waited for the perfect
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 04:21 AM
Dec 2019

time that trump Impeached himself.. like she said he would do.

They wouldn't have had as much evidence if she had jumped on it too soon.. like Jason Johnson wanted.

I don't know who he is... but he doesn't seem to know much about timing is everything.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
9. That smile
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 11:37 PM
Nov 2019

When it all comes together...

Remember her smile when she took the gavel from that idiot?

It's going to be THE smile.

brer cat

(24,565 posts)
11. Ita. Pelosi knows how to bring the public along,
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 12:29 AM
Dec 2019

and that is essential for success. She also knows how to get under trump's thin skin and that is delightful to behold.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
14. Lol
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 01:52 AM
Dec 2019

What makes you think "she eventually jumped on board"?

FYI - Speaker Pelosi doesn't "jump on board." She owns the ship, guaged the winds, charted the course, rigged the sails, hired the crew and decided when to set sail.

Cha

(297,230 posts)
19. omg.. Nancy didn't "jump" anywhere.. trump
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 04:24 AM
Dec 2019

finally impeached himself like Nancy said he would do.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
20. The White House was working against Mueller....
Sun Dec 1, 2019, 04:30 AM
Dec 2019

....before Mueller even walked into the office and assembled his team.

She already knew Mueller would get some low hanging fruit, but the guy on top would be well protected. They learned since Nixon how to sand bag any investigation.

She waited and gave Trump enough rope to hang himself. He won't get removed from office (unless Romney and others are working some massive betrayal...which I doubt)...

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