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MineralMan

(146,438 posts)
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:15 AM Dec 2019

A good friend is having a Whipple Procedure today.

Please keep a good thought for him. It's a huge operation for pancreatic cancer that takes hours to complete. He's considered to be a good candidate for the surgery, so we're all wishing him well. It's a tough day for his family and his friends, so we're all anxious that it goes well.

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A good friend is having a Whipple Procedure today. (Original Post) MineralMan Dec 2019 OP
My thoughts and prayers are coming your way!!!!! onecent Dec 2019 #1
I hope it works! Nt USALiberal Dec 2019 #2
More than thoughts and prayers bitterross Dec 2019 #3
Does this big surgery suggest the possibility that it could be curative? Hortensis Dec 2019 #4
Well, not curative. 5-year survival rates for the procedure MineralMan Dec 2019 #6
I was afraid of that, assuming the cancer had spread out Hortensis Dec 2019 #7
If they find that it has spread farther than they think, MineralMan Dec 2019 #8
10:44. So far so good then. Hortensis Dec 2019 #12
He's well past the time when they would have stopped MineralMan Dec 2019 #31
Lost my mom to pancreatic cancer. I wish your friend the best of all possible outcomes. ooky Dec 2019 #57
Prayers🙏 I truly hope it is successful. I lost my dad dewsgirl Dec 2019 #5
I also lost my dad to it. Prayers from me to your friend MM. MoonRiver Dec 2019 #9
Me too.Thank you. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #10
My dad was very old, 93, and went very fast. Still it's a horrible loss, MoonRiver Dec 2019 #13
My mom passed away when I was 13, so my dad was a mom dewsgirl Dec 2019 #14
I'm so sorry. Here are some candles for all our losses. MoonRiver Dec 2019 #20
Thank you. It's hard at any age for us all. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #32
Hope all goes well! bluestarone Dec 2019 #11
Best wishes ismnotwasm Dec 2019 #15
Very informative. Thanks. The Wielding Truth Dec 2019 #21
Thanks for the information. That will help me understand what MineralMan Dec 2019 #29
If it helps, I see a lot of good outcomes ismnotwasm Dec 2019 #35
Thanks again. Fingers are crossed. MineralMan Dec 2019 #36
✨✨💫💖 MLAA Dec 2019 #16
BEST wishes for a speedy recovery EOM tiredtoo Dec 2019 #17
Will do Hekate Dec 2019 #18
Wishing the best for your friend pandr32 Dec 2019 #19
Healing vibes sent to your friend......nt Heartstrings Dec 2019 #22
I have assisted on Whipple surgeries, and it is, indeed, a big surgrey. colorado_ufo Dec 2019 #23
Thank you. MineralMan Dec 2019 #33
Sending hopes for the best possible results democrank Dec 2019 #24
Honestly, I am happy to hear he was eligible for the procedure and is having it today. SunSeeker Dec 2019 #25
Good friend is having Whipple Procedure people Dec 2019 #26
Best wishes for your good friend's procedure Niagara Dec 2019 #27
FWIW everyone I know who has had that has had good results Cary Dec 2019 #28
Thanks for that encouragement! MineralMan Dec 2019 #30
Best wishes to everyone! Greybnk48 Dec 2019 #34
Best of wishes to your friend MM spanone Dec 2019 #37
Hoping for the best for your friend. I also hope he has or will check out pancan.org - great info & diva77 Dec 2019 #38
Thanks. I'll pass that link on to them. MineralMan Dec 2019 #39
Good luck and good vibes to your friend. Pancreatic cancer is a horrible disease. Liberal In Texas Dec 2019 #40
Update. Unfortunately, they had to abort the surgery. MineralMan Dec 2019 #41
I'm so sorry to hear that update. I want to be uplifing, but you need to be ready for FailureToCommunicate Dec 2019 #44
I'm sorry. cate94 Dec 2019 #45
Sorry to hear that, MM peggysue2 Dec 2019 #49
I am sorry to hear that. I hope they can try again. Glimmer of Hope Dec 2019 #53
Dammit. ismnotwasm Dec 2019 #54
I'm so terribly sorry, MM Hekate Dec 2019 #56
Sorry, did not see your update. ooky Dec 2019 #58
I'm so sorry. Worried senior Dec 2019 #42
Good luck to your friend. Lucky Luciano Dec 2019 #43
Best wishes to your friend and his family JDC Dec 2019 #46
I said a prayer for your friend. Sloumeau Dec 2019 #47
Good luck to your friend. Gore1FL Dec 2019 #48
Egads. I didn't think they even did Whipples anymore. We haven't done them in years. Maru Kitteh Dec 2019 #50
neither did I yellowdogintexas Dec 2019 #62
prayed for your friend. Joinfortmill Dec 2019 #51
Best thoughts! Docreed2003 Dec 2019 #52
I was so sad to read your update The_jackalope Dec 2019 #55
Also, so sorry to hear about the update. littlemissmartypants Dec 2019 #59
I hope the surgeons are able to complete it DFW Dec 2019 #60
I just read the entire thread, including the update and am very sorry. hlthe2b Dec 2019 #61
Does A Whipple Procedure Prevent Him From Squeezing The Charmin? ChoppinBroccoli Dec 2019 #63
It's not funny. Not in any way. MineralMan Dec 2019 #64
 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
3. More than thoughts and prayers
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:18 AM
Dec 2019

I hope your friend's operation is a success. Pancreatic cancer is one of those that is very insidious and takes people very quickly still.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. Does this big surgery suggest the possibility that it could be curative?
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:19 AM
Dec 2019

Hope so. Best wishes, of course.

MineralMan

(146,438 posts)
6. Well, not curative. 5-year survival rates for the procedure
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:22 AM
Dec 2019

are from 20-40%, depending on the extent of the disease. Pancreatic cancer is a bad one, since it is usually not detected early and has few symptoms in its early stages. The Whipple procedure is about the only hope for it. I believe that SCOTUS justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg underwent that procedure and is a good example of survivorship.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. I was afraid of that, assuming the cancer had spread out
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:39 AM
Dec 2019

of the pancreas. I just looked and was dismayed to realize no important advances in survivability for this one have been made recently.

One of my fellow MILs had pancreatic cancer, but she and her husband treated all symptoms of everything by ignoring and toughing them out, exercise, travel, and positive thinking, which worked extremely well for them until this happened. Ginsburg's was apparently caught a lot earlier than most.

Hope your friend's up and enjoying life again as quickly as RBG was.

MineralMan

(146,438 posts)
8. If they find that it has spread farther than they think,
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:44 AM
Dec 2019

they'll stop the surgery, I understand. He's had a couple of PET scans, though, that don't show metastases in the lymph system. So, they're going ahead with the surgery today. They can and will stop if they find signs of a further spread, since there would be no point in carrying out that heroic surgery if that is the case.

I'm cautiously optimistic. My wife is there with his wife at the hospital for a couple of hours this morning. We'll find out if the surgery will continue before noon.

MineralMan

(146,438 posts)
31. He's well past the time when they would have stopped
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 02:31 PM
Dec 2019

so it looks like they're going for it. I'm getting updates from my wife.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
13. My dad was very old, 93, and went very fast. Still it's a horrible loss,
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:55 AM
Dec 2019

especially since I lost my mom 4 years earlier. Hope you are doing well dewsgirl.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
14. My mom passed away when I was 13, so my dad was a mom
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:59 AM
Dec 2019

and a dad to me. He passed away in 2011, he was 67. He was my everything. I still think about him everyday, he was the biggest democrat I know. He hated FOX and would despise what is happening.

ismnotwasm

(42,089 posts)
15. Best wishes
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 12:12 PM
Dec 2019

Post Whipple care is part of the kind of nursing I do, so I’ve seen a lot of them.

It’s pretty painful post op, still, he will be encouraged to ambulate as soon as possible (we have a surgeon who will come and visit his own patients to walk with them as soon as possible after surgery) and he will have a “pain button” or PCA. We also have what’s called a Whipple pathway diet after—it basically starts the patient off very slow with food and fluids. Sometimes, people come out of surgery with a tube in their nose for stomach decompression. This annoys patients the most. He’ll have IV fluids, and probably a Foley catheter. He might have a drain. If he’s an independent person, coming out of everything tethered to all that will be disconcerting and people have different ways of dealing with it. (Anger, humor, depression, withdrawal etc)

It’s an incredible surgery, and can significantly extend life, it’s even occasionally curative.




MineralMan

(146,438 posts)
29. Thanks for the information. That will help me understand what
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 02:28 PM
Dec 2019

he's going through.

Apparently, according to my wife, they are proceeding with the surgery after the exploratory phase. I'm hoping for the best possible outcome.

ismnotwasm

(42,089 posts)
35. If it helps, I see a lot of good outcomes
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 03:13 PM
Dec 2019

It’s a well known procedure, and the surgeons are usually top tier.

One I work with I have vowed to go to if I ever need any kind of surgery in his purview.

Best of luck to your friend

pandr32

(11,748 posts)
19. Wishing the best for your friend
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:03 PM
Dec 2019

I am so glad his family has your support. It can be so stressful. Hopefully, it will be over with soon and you all will receive good news!

colorado_ufo

(5,783 posts)
23. I have assisted on Whipple surgeries, and it is, indeed, a big surgrey.
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:26 PM
Dec 2019

Prayers for a great outcome are in order, and I have sent mine!

SunSeeker

(52,214 posts)
25. Honestly, I am happy to hear he was eligible for the procedure and is having it today.
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:32 PM
Dec 2019

My mom was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer but had a stroke a few days before her scheduled surgery, which made her ineligible for the surgery. She died 6 weeks later.

people

(641 posts)
26. Good friend is having Whipple Procedure
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:41 PM
Dec 2019

Wishing very best for your good friend. I'm glad your wife is with his wife. You are all very lucky to have such friends.

Greybnk48

(10,215 posts)
34. Best wishes to everyone!
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 02:56 PM
Dec 2019

That is a huge procedure. I was a surgical tech in late 70's to the early 90's and never saw one done, but I scrubbed a mini-Whipple once in the 80's. Pancreatic cancer is often very quiet until it's too late.

Not to minimize one bit, but these procedures are no longer new, and techniques and drugs have been vastly improved. Your friend's prognosis is much better than it once was, and i will send all the good surgery vibes I can muster. Please let us know how he does.

diva77

(7,769 posts)
38. Hoping for the best for your friend. I also hope he has or will check out pancan.org - great info &
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 03:40 PM
Dec 2019

support for pancreatic cancer patients & families.

Liberal In Texas

(13,767 posts)
40. Good luck and good vibes to your friend. Pancreatic cancer is a horrible disease.
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 03:44 PM
Dec 2019

It killed my younger brother.

MineralMan

(146,438 posts)
41. Update. Unfortunately, they had to abort the surgery.
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 04:16 PM
Dec 2019

Some sort of blood vessel abnormality that prevented them from continuing. Damn!

FailureToCommunicate

(14,100 posts)
44. I'm so sorry to hear that update. I want to be uplifing, but you need to be ready for
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 07:57 PM
Dec 2019

bad news. My younger brother went thru the "whipple" operation; long, involved, and it STILL didn't work. His kidneys failed shortly after and, well, that was the end.

Pan Can sucks big time.

I am so sorry for your friend, and for you having to go thru this with them.

peggysue2

(10,950 posts)
49. Sorry to hear that, MM
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:22 PM
Dec 2019

Pancreatic cancer is a dreadful disease. My sister-in-law was at one time hoping to qualify for the Whipple surgery but her cancer was too advanced. She tried everything from traditional therapies to clinical trials but succumbed to the disease in late August.

Best to you and your friend!

Lucky Luciano

(11,287 posts)
43. Good luck to your friend.
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 07:43 PM
Dec 2019

Never heard of a Whipple procedure, but pancreatic cancer is evil.

Edit - just saw the update. That is very unfortunate they had to can the procedure, but best if vibes anyway.

Gore1FL

(21,255 posts)
48. Good luck to your friend.
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:02 PM
Dec 2019

I had to google the procedure. When you visit him, you should being a 4-pack of Charmin for him to squeeze in honor of the surgery's namesake. It's a stupid joke, but laughter is good medicine.

I hope everything went well!

Maru Kitteh

(28,376 posts)
50. Egads. I didn't think they even did Whipples anymore. We haven't done them in years.
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:29 PM
Dec 2019

Sending my best thoughts for a kind and thoughtful surgeon and supreme nursing care.

Docreed2003

(16,969 posts)
52. Best thoughts!
Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:56 PM
Dec 2019

That's a huge procedure but they wouldn't do it if he weren't a good candidate. Hope everything goes well.

littlemissmartypants

(23,243 posts)
59. Also, so sorry to hear about the update.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:11 AM
Dec 2019

I hope you and your friend will find time to share some pleasant days to ease his burdens.
❤ lmsp

DFW

(54,935 posts)
60. I hope the surgeons are able to complete it
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:31 AM
Dec 2019

By the time my dad had his pancreatic cancer operation, the tumor had wrapped itself around a vital artery, and the team couldn't perform the Whipple. He hung on for another half year, which his doctors considered nothing short of amazing, but once the operation was terminated before the Whipple could be done, the surgeons told us that there was little to no hope, and, unfortunately, they were right. I hope your friend has a better outcome.

hlthe2b

(103,050 posts)
61. I just read the entire thread, including the update and am very sorry.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:28 AM
Dec 2019

I hope for the best for your friend. He will need your support even more now--as will his family.

There are always those who beat the odds. May your friend be one.

MineralMan

(146,438 posts)
64. It's not funny. Not in any way.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 11:27 AM
Dec 2019

Some subjects don't lend themselves to juvenile humor. This is one of those subjects.

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