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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLindsey discusses "bipartisan support" of censure to spare country "trauma" of impeachment trial
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) suggested on Tuesday that President Donald Trump might be censured to prevent the country from going through a traumatic impeachment trial in the Senate.
Graham, who has been Trumps biggest defender in the Senate, made the suggestion when he was asked about a possible censure, according to CBS journalist Alan He.
Who am I to advise my Dem colleagues about what to do, Graham reportedly said. Censure would probably gain some bipartisan support the country going through an impeachment trial would be traumatic and I think we should avoid that if possible.
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/lindsey-graham-floats-censure-with-trump-in-london-senate-trial-will-be-too-traumatic-on-the-country/
onecaliberal
(32,812 posts)wryter2000
(46,025 posts)He doesn't think his President is innocent, after all.
dchill
(38,462 posts)karynnj
(59,501 posts)No one asked him if HE would vote for censure. I suspect they want the Democrats to back down from impeaching Trump in the House and just censure him -- however, he is not saying any Republicans will vote for censure.
Also, consider they expect Trump to run in 2020. A censure vote that many Republicans vote will ask the question of whether they support him for re-election and why.
wryter2000
(46,025 posts)That suggests at least one Republican thinks Trump did something bad.
dchill
(38,462 posts)I hear you're being blackmailed. How does that feel?
J_William_Ryan
(1,749 posts)the country the trauma of another 4 years of Trump.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,401 posts)Republicans weren't quite as concerned about the "trauma" of an impeachment trial in the Senate for Clinton and him lying about a consensual affair.
What he really means IMHO is that he's scared shirtless that *something* is going to come out the hearings in the House or trial in the Senate about him or other GOPers, so they want to start talking about ways to end this altogether- before anything horrifically damaging comes out on anybody.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)yonder
(9,662 posts)DFW
(54,329 posts)Graham was one of the House "managers" pursuing Bill Clinton in his impeachment trial. Not just voting for impeachment, but an active participant in prosecuting him in the Senate trial. No vote for censure, but an attempt to remove him from office.
Trump, whose offenses are against the country and everyone in it, is worthy of Graham's protection? Why? What compromising photos does Trump have that make Graham so terrified of a Trump trial in the Senate that he is proposing censure as a Hail Mary attempt to stop a falling boulder with a slingshot?
MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)Ms. Lindsey is not as dumb as she feigns.
THE REAL REPUKE FEAR =
MF45 won't go down alone. He's taking a whole lot more ruski repuke a$$ets with him.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,401 posts)I will lose exactly zero sleep over.
llmart
(15,536 posts)He's the one who is currently traumatized by the looks of him.
pecosbob
(7,534 posts)malaise
(268,846 posts)Fuck dat
Zoonart
(11,844 posts)F Dat Noise!
I thought he was innocent... so not you want a plea bargain? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
maxsolomon
(33,265 posts)Graham was an Impeachment Manager against Clinton, for the High Crime of Perjury over a consensual affair. THAT was essential to the nation, but THIS is not?
He is a paragon of situational ethics and hypocrisy.
malaise
(268,846 posts)The truth
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,401 posts)where Republicans repeatedly accused US of "moral relativism"?
louis-t
(23,284 posts)The country will do just fine. If we let this asshole get away with this, we have lost the country.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,173 posts)But screw that. The country is already traumatized. So take your concern, Lindsey, and shove it up your hibiscus.
(Oh, crap. Lindsey has fainted. Who's in charge of the smelling salts today?)
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Also, I don't want to have to vote on an impeachment trial in the Senate, because it's a no-win situation for me.
Too bad, Senator. Suck it up and get ready to do your constitutional duty. You and your like-minded colleagues can always resign your seats if that's too onerous.
bluestarone
(16,894 posts)They ALL will fall in it! FUCK THEM ALL full speed ahead with IMPEACHMENT!!!
C_U_L8R
(44,996 posts)It's still obnoxious but the Republican's Trump defense is eroding. You just can't build a solid case with bullshit.
Hugin
(33,110 posts)for people like Leningrad Lindsey and Comrade Trump who have no shame.
spanone
(135,805 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,097 posts)getting too hard to ignore? Excuses can't make it go away so easily.
ProfessorGAC
(64,960 posts)Get bipartisan support for censure!
The impeach!
Happy Lindsay?
BootinUp
(47,135 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)calguy
(5,303 posts)that they gave to Bill Clinton, whose "crimes" were petty compared to this clown's abuses of office.
Johonny
(20,827 posts)and removes Barr's unconstitutional position.
Takket
(21,550 posts)So
Fuck off Lindsay
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livetohike
(22,133 posts)this debacle of a presidency. Trump was permitted to behave like an ass without any rebuke. The impeachment has to go forward with or without the cowardly GOP.
yonder
(9,662 posts)Should've happened the first time he showed his colors as president.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,078 posts)I join the millions who will NOT be "traumatized" by impeachment. I look forward to it, and hope your corrupt ass gets exposed in the process.
MineralMan
(146,282 posts)Censure is not adequate. Nope. Vote to remove him, you crusty old reprobate!
wryter2000
(46,025 posts)Let's end the trauma we've been living in for almost three years instead?
Cartoonist
(7,314 posts)To spare us the trauma, tell your lip pad to resign.
BannonsLiver
(16,348 posts)Fuck you, Linzy. As always.
The_Counsel
(1,660 posts)If Graham gets even ONE Dem vote for censure (and we all know that means Mr. Manchin of West Virginia ) they will consider it "bipartisan," though it will be nowhere near that.
Secondly, did Mr. Graham support censure for Mr. Clinton when all he did was lie about an embarrassing affair (and not even under oath)? Meanwhile, lying is the native tongue of the guy Leningrad Lindsey's protecting today.
moondust
(19,966 posts)to change his glaringly impeachable behavior.
ScratchCat
(1,977 posts)Because Lindsey seems to not say anything unless pressed by Trump to do so. So, does that mean that maybe, just maybe, Trump is telling Lindsey to do this because he knows he loses support once all the hearings are said and done? Lindsey didn't just come out on his own and essentially "walk back"* the "he's innocent" nonsense without someone telling him to.
(* You don't offer up "censure" if someone is innocent, thus he walked it back)
crickets
(25,959 posts)I doubt Lindsey is saying or doing anything these days without specific marching orders. It's only a question of who's giving them to him.
gibraltar72
(7,500 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,315 posts)Autumn
(45,023 posts)Wednesdays
(17,335 posts)when it was Bill Clinton in the hot seat.
Mme. Defarge
(8,020 posts)That is not hyperbole. When will our ongoing national nightmare finally be over?
H2O Man
(73,524 posts)Last week, in one (or two) of the essays I posted, I noted that several republican Senators were putting out the trial balloon of censure rather than impeachment. At least two had brought it up in off-the-record conversations with Democrats.
Kaleva
(36,291 posts)Botany
(70,480 posts)" .. the country going through an impeachment trial would be traumatic ..." R you shitting me Mr. B.J.
Hunter?
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)coti
(4,612 posts)a betrayal of our country and a corruption of the integrity of our elections, a fundamental piece of our democracy, as well as our foreign policy. Admit that, and I don't care what you call the rebuke.
Raftergirl
(1,285 posts)Did he say this with a straight face?
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Fuck him.
JustAnotherGen
(31,798 posts)If the worst thing that could happen is more trauma? Then I say go for it.
Vinca
(50,249 posts)to on a daily basis by Individual One.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)If he's done wrong, remove, but y'all said it was perfect.
Brother Buzz
(36,407 posts)I'm not ready to back down
I'm still mad as hell, and I don't have time
To go 'round and 'round and 'round
Hekate
(90,617 posts)If Dems agreed to only censure, that offer would disappear so fast it would make their heads spin.
XRubicon
(2,212 posts)Next depression then acceptance.
windwardbmh
(8 posts)Bribing a foreign government to get dirt on a political opponent is a little more serious than lying about getting your carrot waxed.
dalton99a
(81,426 posts)TomSlick
(11,096 posts)An impeachment is no different.
Despite the trauma, sometimes a trial is simply required in the interests of justice. Irrespective of the outcome, justice requires impeachment.
Initech
(100,054 posts)Don't commit the crime if you can't do the time!
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)destroy the country. They had no problem putting America through the trauma of impeachment when Bill Clinton lied about an affair.