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Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:42 AM

Lindsey heard the tapes

I've been told Lindsey Graham has heard the tapes that Gulliani's henchman provided and that is why he has had this "change of heart" and brought up "censure" over impeachment. He has seen the writing on the wall and knows other (R)'s in the Senate will convict.

Take it for what its worth.

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Reply Lindsey heard the tapes (Original post)
ScratchCat Dec 2019 OP
dweller Dec 2019 #1
Arthur_Frain Dec 2019 #2
SayItLoud Dec 2019 #21
RainCaster Dec 2019 #3
Salviati Dec 2019 #4
Scarsdale Dec 2019 #25
JustAnotherGen Dec 2019 #31
LexVegas Dec 2019 #5
Sneederbunk Dec 2019 #6
SCantiGOP Dec 2019 #10
CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #23
duforsure Dec 2019 #7
bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #8
Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2019 #9
SCantiGOP Dec 2019 #12
crickets Dec 2019 #13
Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2019 #14
Golden Raisin Dec 2019 #11
aggiesal Dec 2019 #35
MontanaMama Dec 2019 #15
BlueIdaho Dec 2019 #16
BadGimp Dec 2019 #17
okieinpain Dec 2019 #39
grantcart Dec 2019 #18
Catherine Vincent Dec 2019 #19
NCjack Dec 2019 #20
CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #24
FrankBooth Dec 2019 #22
dewsgirl Dec 2019 #26
Iliyah Dec 2019 #27
Botany Dec 2019 #28
Mme. Defarge Dec 2019 #29
Cheviteau Dec 2019 #30
PatrickforO Dec 2019 #32
Mr.Bill Dec 2019 #33
PatrickforO Dec 2019 #36
liberalla Dec 2019 #34
riversedge Dec 2019 #37
Joinfortmill Dec 2019 #38

Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:43 AM

1. drip ...

drip ...


✌🏼

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 11:48 AM

2. Don't believe you're right, but I sure am hoping you are.

In this day and age, when everything is surveilled, and everybody leaks, I look askance on this kind of idea. The fact remains that just like the purported videos of Cheeto face with underage Russian hookers/teenage miss universe contestants (take your pick), and whether pissing was involved or not, if those tapes really existed they would have been made public by now.

A payday that big doesnít get missed.

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Response to Arthur_Frain (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:39 PM

21. Sex tapes may exist but for certain the Kompromat is

that tRUMP Organization is owned/controlled by someone other than tRUMP. He's but a logo on a shell. Much like his towers; name not owner. Just sayin....IMO

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:14 PM

3. Leningrad Lindsey is so flexible in his corruption

He's the perfect tool for Vladimir.

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:14 PM

4. I think it's that he sees that there will be a price to be paid for letting trump off the hook...

... so that he's pushing a strategy that will forestall any vote in the senate that will put them on the record.

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Response to Salviati (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:54 PM

25. A slap on the wrist

is not enough for what tRump has done. He will just ignore that, he needs to be completely stripped of all the privileges he has flaunted. He has strutted around spending the taxpayer cash like it is his personal piggy bank. Time to pay the price. He holds hate rallies, then leaves the town to cover the bills, at taxpayer expense. Old habits die hard. He is a deadbeat, as many small contractors came to understand over many years.

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Response to Salviati (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:24 PM

31. Spot on

That's why I'm lower case 'o'kay if the Senate does not vote to impeach.

I want every single one of them on the record.

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:16 PM

5. "other (R)'s in the Senate will convict." Nope. nt

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:24 PM

6. Depends on who told you.

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Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:58 PM

10. Yeah, "I've been told"

is not adequate to start a thread on DU, much less accept as something to be disseminated.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #10)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:44 PM

23. For the other party, "Many people are saying..." is just fine.

Even if all those voices are inside just one head.

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:42 PM

7. What we know now is

Just the tip of the ice berg the crimes trump has done, and is involved in, and the republican's are digging themselves a hole they not be able to get out of very soon from it. Then be exposed for their involvement in conspiring to commit crimes with and for trump. I think they've already lost , and now risk their party's future from protecting and their criminal involvement . Or we have no system of justice at all. Their excuses and flimsy claims, and accusations aren't working any longer now. The republicans in Congress will have to remove him knowing a lot more will expose them as well.

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:46 PM

8. Seen on the Twitter: Pick a side. America. Or Trump. /nt

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:54 PM

9. I don't necessarily think that he believes that the Senate will convict

I think that his advocacy of censure is more of a desire to avoid having even more damaging details- possibly to himself and/or other GOPers- spill out during an Impeachment Trial. Sort of like he wants a "settlement" that ends everything. He's scared IMHO.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:02 PM

12. They sure wouldn't convict today

But Nixon has a safe margin in the Senate until his tapes came out.
We need some patriot to leak a tape to prove Trumpís criminal behavior. He, like Caeser, has a lot of enemies who despise him around him every day.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:04 PM

13. This. He just wants the investigations to stop. nt

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Response to crickets (Reply #13)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:07 PM

14. If they are worried

then I take it as a good sign for us.

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:01 PM

11. Lindsey Graham changes his mind and opinions

from day to day like a weather-vane in a hurricane. Black today. White tomorrow. Back to black the next day.

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Response to Golden Raisin (Reply #11)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:53 PM

35. I was going to say that Lindsey Graham changes his mind ...

as often as he changes his underwear, but then thought, maybe he doesn't
change his underwear all that often.
Black today, same Black tomorrow. White the day after tomorrow.

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:13 PM

15. I hold no hope that the Senate will convict

or that Lindsey will not change his mind yet again with any change in the political wind.

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:15 PM

16. Well something has altered Little Lindsey's course

I would not be surprised if he has heard something explosive that will later come to light.

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:24 PM

17. None the less...

v

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Response to BadGimp (Reply #17)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 04:41 AM

39. +1 -nt.

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:27 PM

18. Raw story has the quote, sorry can't link


Censure not impeach.

Obviously Trump woudnt agree

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:34 PM

19. No to censure!

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:35 PM

20. Lindseed had a brain flip from right side to left side. No one knows

why that happened, but expect a reversal as soon as Liar-#45 returns.

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Response to NCjack (Reply #20)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:48 PM

24. It happened because he has a viable opponent in 2020.

"Chrisley" Graham may be unemployed (imprisoned?) soon.

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:41 PM

22. No chance Senate will remove

About as likely as Dotard apologizing for something.

But it does show the Republican Senators would be very, very open to ANYTHING that allows them to skip the acquittal vote. Which is why impeachment must (& will) happen.

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:57 PM

26. 😳 This could be what the meeting with Pence

was about?

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 01:58 PM

27. I want to believe!

I truly do, but alas, we are dealing with Republicans.

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:01 PM

28. I might be wrong but I think that when the proof is overwhelming some of the senate will vote to ...

... dump Trump. Except for some of those who are on Vlad's payroll and or know about just
how dirty the elections and voting machines are now and have been in the past.

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:01 PM

29. Add that development to my recent speculation.

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:13 PM

30. First Thought

That was the first thing I thought when Graham mentioned 'censure' the other day. He's looking for a way out of impeachment. Floating censure is not going to work. Republicans are going to be forced to show what they're made of. I cautiously and hopefully predict conviction.

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:28 PM

32. If the vote in the Senate were taken by secret ballot,

Trump would find himself sitting on his ass out in the parking lot with a pink slip.

If they have the vote publicly, hard to say. I'd love to see enough Republicans in the Senate vote to remove, and failing that, I believe a simple majority can forbid Trump from holding elected office after he leaves the presidency in January 2021.

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #32)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:36 PM

33. But the other side of that coin is

if the ballot was secret, those who voted not to convict could claim the opposite if that was politically expedient in the future.

Conviction or not, I want to know how they voted and I want them to live with it for the rest of their lives and for it to be in the first paragraph in their obituary.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #33)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:31 PM

36. Good point.

A secret ballot WOULD allow them to be gutless.

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:47 PM

34. Oh please, please, please!!! Let it be TRUE!

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Wed Dec 4, 2019, 07:33 PM

37. No, I do not think other Repug Senators will convict-maybe a few.

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Response to ScratchCat (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 12:40 AM

38. 👍

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