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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 09:21 AM Dec 2019

There are too many people out there who will not realise what they have until it is gone...



As Sir Winston Churchill said in 1948 "Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it."

And here we go again…

We are witness to the next rise of the far right. Some have forgotten how terrible it used to be. Some glorify in the horror of it all and want the world to burn. Some wilfully ignore it because it suits their purpose. Throw in a lack of robust education systems where young people can develop critical thinking skills, a fact free online world and Putin into the mix… clusterfuck 101 for democracies across the West.

There are too many people out there who will not realise what they have until it is gone... *sigh*

There are echoes of the fascism and antisemitism of the 1930s. But populism is also deeply modern. It has prospered over the last 10 years not just because of the way that economies have changed, but because social media platforms have proved to be the ideal outlet for its furies. Their algorithms promote anything vivid, angry and sensationalist, and incubate endless conspiracy theories. Facebook, as a matter of policy, allows political advertisements that tell lies.
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The lesson of the last decade is that millions of people do not want to adapt or change, and their complaints are likely to continue. For the foreseeable future, the opportunistic politicians who claim to represent them are going to be at the heart of yet another contradiction: Trump, Farage, Orbán and the rest attract the votes of people who want the world to return to the past; but their mission is to push us into a chaotic, ugly future we cannot yet imagine.

[link:https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2019/nov/26/politics-of-nostalgia-score-settling-populism-dominated-2010s-john-harris|]

They are relying on complacency, short memories and nostalgia to hijack our democracies. Nazis.
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There are too many people out there who will not realise what they have until it is gone... (Original Post) Soph0571 Dec 2019 OP
The one thing that people still have is their vote. YOHABLO Dec 2019 #1
Yup & we need to make it count if we are to have the best chance of clobbering these GOP fascists. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #2
The vote is endangered RVN VET71 Dec 2019 #5
I agree with this genxlib Dec 2019 #3
The Great Depression was capitalism collapsing. WWII was a result Farmer-Rick Dec 2019 #4
I expect climate catastrophe to be the next trigger ... Auggie Dec 2019 #6
pave paradise, put up a parking lot (obscure I know, hope u get it) nt msongs Dec 2019 #7

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
2. Yup & we need to make it count if we are to have the best chance of clobbering these GOP fascists.
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 10:05 AM
Dec 2019

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
5. The vote is endangered
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 10:41 AM
Dec 2019

and the results have been tampered with in at least one presidential election we know about -- Kerry beat Bush in '04 and lost because of machine manipulation. And the Republicans in the House voted against the restoration of the voting rights act (only one Republican voted for it). And they've even admitted publicly that the so-called efforts to prevent voter fraud are really just ways to deprive non-republican citizens of the right to vote.

The GOP has been working relentlessly, breathlessly, to shift all power to the corporate money vaults, to deprive poor people of public assistance (while demeaning them as useless eaters -- a term I think Romney (sometimes called a "good" republican) used in a speech at one of his rich-boy fund raisers.

Farmer-Rick

(10,169 posts)
4. The Great Depression was capitalism collapsing. WWII was a result
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 10:29 AM
Dec 2019

Then patches were put on the destructive tendencies of the failing economic system. FDR put them on sooner then did the Weimar German government. Desperate people make deseparate decisions.

The patches FDR put on capitalism were taken off. And now capitalism is collapsing yet again.

Will facism take over here in the US? It is possible. The only thing stopping the US from going full on facism is that the top fascists are such vile, disgusting, scummy and hated people. Hitler and Musellini were at first very popular among the majority of the people in their country. Both dictators did provide jobs for the underclass. Dumpy Trumpy just provides riches to the already filthy rich.

And everybody laughs at him.

Auggie

(31,169 posts)
6. I expect climate catastrophe to be the next trigger ...
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 10:46 AM
Dec 2019

perhaps it’s coupled with economic collapse as well.

Try to image that world.

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