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Sun Dec 8, 2019, 10:29 AM

These drips are now starting to become a stream which will become a flood and then wash him away.

Trump is the biggest crook in America's history and is the middle of the biggest series of
crimes in America's history and he helped a hostile foreign power, Russia, in nothing less then
an act of war on America and if the Republicans in the senate want to stand with him then
fine let 'em. Trump will soon become so toxic that almost nobody will be able to support him
without being poisoned themselves. And remember we still haven't seen the whole Mueller
Report* which no doubt shows that Trump and his campaign worked with the Russians and
mobsters to rig our 2016 election. This "Ukraine stuff" is just a continuation of a crime wave
that goes back to even before Trump's 2013 trip to Moscow.

Call your Republican Senators and ask one simple question do you stand with America or with
Trump? Because you can't do both.


* 272 proven contacts between the Trump Campaign and Russia.
https://themoscowproject.org/explainers/trumps-russia-cover-up-by-the-numbers-70-contacts-with-russia-linked-operatives/

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Reply These drips are now starting to become a stream which will become a flood and then wash him away. (Original post)
Botany Dec 8 OP
COLGATE4 Dec 8 #1
Botany Dec 8 #2
lastlib Dec 8 #3
Skittles Dec 8 #22
CrispyQ Dec 8 #4
certainot Dec 8 #11
bitterross Dec 8 #5
stopwastingmymoney Dec 8 #7
Botany Dec 8 #8
certainot Dec 8 #13
PatSeg Dec 8 #14
unitedwethrive Dec 8 #15
USALiberal Dec 8 #6
oldsoftie Dec 8 #9
Ligyron Dec 8 #10
oldsoftie Dec 8 #19
Botany Dec 8 #16
oldsoftie Dec 8 #20
Botany Dec 8 #21
bucolic_frolic Dec 8 #12
WhiteTara Dec 8 #17
Botany Dec 8 #18
H2O Man Dec 8 #23
LiberalFighter Dec 8 #24

Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 10:58 AM

1. There's an old Yiddish saying that is applicable here:

fun deyn moyl tsu got 's aoyer (From your mouth to God's ear)

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Response to COLGATE4 (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 11:04 AM

2. thanx .... I kind of knew that is a Jewish saying but the Yiddish backstory is interesting

n/t

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 11:08 AM

3. I have said that repuglikans face a choice:

They can either stand on the right side against infamy, Or be buried by it.

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Response to lastlib (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 09:19 PM

22. they can stand with Trump or they can stand with America

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 11:12 AM

4. I make regular calls to Cory Gardner's office.

I do like the way you state this, though—short & to the point! "Senator, do you stand with America or with Trump? Because you can't do both."

My 2020 contribution dollars & volunteer time will go to unseat this senator.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:24 PM

11. protest the 87 universities that broadcast on 260 kremlin radio stations

until the discussion forces advertisers off to the point where the ad industry has to start asking clients if they really want to support trump, putin, global warming, racism, lies, etc that will destroy RW talk radio with market demand

protests aat any of these 87 universities will start a cascade that will scare the crap out of the GOP senators that depend heavily on those stations for relection and are intimidated by them as well

the ridiculous part is that the media continues to suggest trumps tweets are what keep gop senators in line. if lmbaaugh/kremlin radio wasn't keeping the dittoheads screaming for trump those tweets would be worth shit.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 11:36 AM

5. Pardon my cynicism.

Things that would have caused other people to never get elected in the first place. Things that would have caused other Presidents to resign in shame have had no effect on this man. Mainly, because of his Republican enablers.

The problem really isn't Trump. It's the Republicans. They no longer stand for anything other than money and power. They will support and use any tool (i.e. Trump) to gain and keep power.

Removing Trump is essential. That is true. But he is merely the logical outcome of the years and years of the GOP break from loyalty to the Constitution to loyalty to money and power.

I will not believe he is gone until I see it with my own eyes. The best thing that could happen is for him to have a final reckoning with his poor lifestyle choices. If he left the office horizontally then he would not be able to rabble-rouse his cult against the new President. Which he will do once he is out of office. He relishes the attention too much.

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Response to bitterross (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 11:59 AM

7. This...

Second and third paragraph in particular

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Response to bitterross (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 12:12 PM

8. One of the major problems dates back to Reagan in the gutting of the fairness doctrine

We now have a % of Americans who get their news and information from the far right sources
such as Fox News which is almost totally fact free and uses very effective propaganda in order
to push their agenda. In Columbus, OH about 2 to 3 weeks ago I was listening to a local sports
show and I was horrified when one of the hosts used the term "whistleblower" as a person we
should find out about in order to understand a problem that an OSU football player was having.
That told me that the propaganda from the right was having its desired effect.



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Response to Botany (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:29 PM

13. RW radio is a very vulnerable target for protests, starting with 87 universities

see above

and unless fiona hill is a fool or idiot the kremlin is using those radio stations - we cannot have a real democracy until democrats and 'left' stop ignoring talk radio

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Response to bitterross (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:31 PM

14. I'm always trying to see the silver lining

in bad situations and I believe that Trump could be an odd blessing in disguise. His disastrous presidency might be the only way we will be able to rid the government of the toxic republicans who helped create this monster. The behavior of the majority of republicans in congress and their loyalty to a corrupt president could hopefully destroy their careers, as well as end republican control of DC for many years to come. It may even end the party.

I can't help but wonder what could have been accomplished in the Obama years, if it wasn't for the republican obstructionists in congress, many who now have attached themselves to a criminal president. It appears that they may have overplayed their hand and now will pay the price. Now the world knows what we've known for long time, that as you say, their loyalty is to money and power, not the Constitution.

I do disagree with one point, however. Trump should not leave office horizontally. He needs to be held accountable while he is still alive and relatively conscious and if his presidency should end by death, not impeachment or at the ballot box, he could become a martyr. We know how republicans like to rewrite history to make their leaders look like saints. Their version of Ronald Reagan barely matches reality.

So hopefully when Trump leaves, he will take a shitload of trash with him!

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Response to bitterross (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:32 PM

15. So true, and the media is also complicit...the repubs state an obvious lie, for example

that Obama might not have been born in Hawaii. Then the media presents the story as if it has two sides. IT DOES NOT, and never did. The effect of Trump calling them fake has made them bend over backwards to give the appearance of fairness, when in actuality, this makes them worse journalists.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 11:42 AM

6. Predicted MONTHLY yet he is still here! nt

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 12:17 PM

9. Dont give a shit about the GOP Senators. I just dont see the swing voters going trump.

In 16, the swing votes went trump; even many who had voted Obama twice. They didnt like Hillary; simple as that. Well, she's not running this time and i just dont see him still winning these voters again after showing his true colors. The Trump voters i know just simply dont vote democrat. They're not who he needs; they're not going anywhere. The people he needs are people like my friends in other states who arent political & vote more on feelings than facts. He doesnt have THEIR feelings this time around.

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:06 PM

10. This exactly

The only way he wins, and that's if he's even still in office to run, is if the PTB in the GOP are able to cheat or rigg that election enough to produce that result. We are going to grap control of a few more state legislatures too.

At least IMHO anyway.

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Response to Ligyron (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 02:50 PM

19. I agree with you.

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #9)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:32 PM

16. Please stop it with Hillary didn't win because people didn't like her junk

She got >3,000,000 votes than Trump, she got more votes than anybody in history besides
Barack Obama in 2008, and she had 16 million voters* who would have supported her removed
from voting prior to the 2016 election. Don't forget that she won the exit polls in FL, WI, MI,
PA, and other states. Trump didn't win he was installed by Russia.


* https://thinkprogress.org/states-purged-16-million-voters-from-the-rolls-before-the-2016-election-1c5688dcaad7/

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Response to Botany (Reply #16)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 02:56 PM

20. Polls also showed that the 2 candidates were the least liked in history.

And even some DUers admitted to voting for Stein instead of her.
Its not hard to find the evidence showing many simply refused to vote for her. How else do you explain the number of 2 time Obama voters voting for Trump?
Had Biden been the nominee I doubt trump would have come close to winning.

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #20)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 03:40 PM

21. No point in even answering

n/t

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:25 PM

12. Yes that's it in a nutshell AND the people must be made aware of the choice

America. Or Trump. Pick a side.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:38 PM

17. My question is Are you Russian or American?

As you say, you can't serve 2 masters.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #17)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:44 PM

18. We got the Moscow Mules gang of 8

So, what do we call these Red Square Republicans? My interlocutors on Twitter suggest “Moscow Mules.” Or, given the position they put themselves in before our masters in Moscow, perhaps they should be called the Prostrate Eight: Sens. Richard C. Shelby (Ala.), Steve Daines (Mont.), John Hoeven (N.D.), John Neely Kennedy (La.), Jerry Moran (Kan.), John Thune (S.D.) and Johnson, plus Rep. Kay Granger (Tex.).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/eight-republicans-spent-july-4-in-russia-where-are-the-fireworks/2018/07/06/beae30be-812e-11e8-b658-4f4d2a1aeef1_story.html

Add in Ron Johnson of Wisconsin too.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 09:23 PM

23. Recommended.

While Trump is not the biggest crook in American history -- he is merely a petty mobster, and too easily caught to make the top 100 -- he is the current threat to the public. Call lots of Senators, write lots of letters.

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Response to Botany (Original post)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 09:25 PM

24. Throw towels at him?

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