****Impeachment thread # 5****

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1. This session includes the 5 minute member questions - Karen Bass (D-CA) up

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2. Bass noting that after all this, no WH meeting has been scheduled -also playing Sondland's testimony

literally admitting there was a "quid pro quo".

[Midnightwalk]

5. I would love a montage of all the witnesses

Saying quid quo pro, inappropriate, unprecedented

And ask: was it only sondland? Ask that moron who cant count past 20 if he can count that high

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11. They did that earlier

Including both Sondland and Mulvaney...

[crickets]

7. Sondland is never getting out from under the bus.

He lives there now.

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14. Yup

He paid his $1 million and his payment's coverage term has now expired.

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3. Bass done. Ratfucker up (John Ratcliff R-TX)

[crickets]

4. Best use of Republican posters against them

Link to tweet

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9. ....

[Mersky]

10. LOL

[underpants]

17. I don't get the Kay Jewelers reference

I guess I’m not up to date on their inside jokes

[crickets]

21. It's accusing the Republicans of clutching their pearls.

Somebody just happened to pick Kay as the jeweler.

[DBoon]

23. "clutching pearls"

an ineffective reaction to a stressful event

[underpants]

31. Oh. Got it. Whew that was a big step to take for a "joke"

[Mersky]

36. I'd say there's a secondary, loose set of references that are nsfw

But clutching pearls is funny enough. Maybe I'm adding in too much, but meh, I did laugh extra.

[not_the_one]

110. yeah, VLAD supplied the "pearls"...

[Mersky]

111. Uh, yup, that's definitely in the, let's say...

mix.

[Botany]

6. Rep. Buck (R Shitbag) Colorado just read Russian talking points

How deep does this corruption go?

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8. Back on the whistleblower again

[meow2u3]

12. RATcliffe is impugning the whistleblower

He's accusing them of committing perjury when in fact the WB was telling the truth to the best of their knowledge. RATcliffe needs to be sued for slander per se.

[getagrip_already]

72. and in fact.....

All of the incidents the WB testified to hearing about were corroberated. None were contradicted. None.

Plus, the intel committee never used the WB report in any capacity other than a roadmap of who to talk to. They never relied on the WB's testamony, and all the witnesses they called had independent knowledge of what happened.

It doesn't matter who the WB is or what was in the report. Other witnesses frovided facts for the committee to rely on.

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13. Cedric Richmond (D-LA) up

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15. Goldman clarifying when OMB heard the "excuse" for the hold -not until after the gig was up

[Botany]

16. I have to turn it off .... lying motherfucker!

Adam Schiff had zero contacts with the Whistleblower.

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20. They are stuck on stupid

[PatSeg]

22. They keep repeating it

hoping it will stick.

[Botany]

78. Joseph Goebbels, the big lie

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

[PatSeg]

104. Yes

They are planting seeds and many end up taking root because of the repetition. Masters of propaganda.

[Botany]

105. I heard the term "whistleblower" used on a local sports talk show as in we have to get to the ....

.... bottom of this (an OSU player suspended for 2 games) so we need to find the whistleblower in this case.
Now you and I see the propaganda and lies coming but because of their lies and the right wing 24/7
propaganda we have a % of Americans who buy the lie as truth.

[PatSeg]

109. I agree

And they are changing the language, so that positive words become negative, something they've done for years now. They are trying to make "whistleblower" a bad thing and it is starting to take.

[not_the_one]

112. "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."

Donald Trump in a nutshell. (I seldom use his name, also known as "the turd&quot ...

[marlakay]

27. I really don't know who can stand to watch this

Even with muting the other side. And I bet it the republicans do the same.

How does that help? And regular people aren’t going to like this mess, we are into it and struggling.

Its like watching a volleyball game where they are throwing a fireball at each other. And the witnesses are like the audience getting hit with the ball.

Yes I think our side makes more sense....

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18. Johnson done. Martha Roby (R-AL) up

[Mersky]

19. Nadler entered the IG report into the record

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24. Roby is whining about the - can you guess? The process!!!111!!!!

[Mersky]

25. We're spiral eyes, too, roby

It is bizarre how continually dense and awful the republicans of the Committee can be.

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26. Roby has yielded time to Collins

to continue the bullshit of "no quid pro quo" - despite the texts and actual video of them admitting to it.

[hibbing]

28. ugh...it's NOT a transcript

Boy, they sure all stick to their talking points. Collins up again...barf.

Peace

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29. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) up

[in2herbs]

30. When the Rs talk about withholding the aid (as it's not a bad thing) why doesn't Goldman or someone

on the Cte with a D after their title casually mention the news that HUD Carson and Trump have also been withholding aid to Puerto Rico?

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33. They have to keep it focussed

The entire administration has been doing corrupt and illegal holds and other ethics violations and that can be part (and has been part) of their own investigations by other committees.

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32. Goldman clarifying the DOD certification of the aid yet the aid was still held

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34. Jeffries done. MUTE GRATES IS UP (Matt Gaetz R-FL)

[Hermit-The-Prog]

38. I want to dump a septic tank on Gaetz's head

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39. His head IS a septic tank

[Midnightwalk]

35. Trump a liar

Could only listen with half an ear for a while. Did a republican ask castor if it was fair for democrats to treat trump a liar???

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37. GRAETES back to the "partisan" and donations to parties. Impunging Goldman

[Midnightwalk]

40. Divisive gaetz

Has any republican ask any question about evidence? Nope.

Ignoring evidence is always divisive. You cannot agree with people who ignore evidence

Bringing up stuff that republicans refuse to act on issues and blaming this inquiry

[Kali]

41. hey gitz, I'll take that under my tree ANY day!

[hibbing]

42. Gaetz

Oh god, what cajones it must take to bring up prescription drugs, and other policies HIS party has been against. Then he brings up the debt, I'm sure he voted against the tax cuts for the ruling class. God, how awful.

Peace

[Hermit-The-Prog]

43. local PBS broadcast ending coverage, local ABC, CBS, NBC stopped long ago

[getagrip_already]

79. msnbc cut a few times to discuss the IG report, but they are still on it

ted lieu is up now

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44. GRATES DONE. David Cicicilline (D-RI) is up - dispelling the bullshit about bills

including the hundreds sitting on Turtle's desk.

[Mersky]

45. Hey, gaetz, there's a stack of Rx cost solutions, etc waiting on Moscow Mitch's desk

So, talk to the turtle about the productivity log jam.

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47. And thankfully Cicilline corrected his bs at the beginning of his time!

[crickets]

50. Thank goodness. Gotta punch that point every time. nt

[Mersky]

53. Yup, +1!

[crickets]

46. Gaetz asking about campaign contributions again

Castor should not have been able to answer, "I don't remember." What utter BS.

I don't think a number matters or has any bearing here unless somebody wants to remind Gaetz about Sondland's million dollar donation and tell Gaetz to STFU.

edit to add omg listen to this ass - as if he cares about any of the issues he is Gish galloping. This man is heinous.

[Midnightwalk]

48. Less than sondland

Would have been funny as hell.

[BumRushDaShow]

49. Cicilline played a montage of witness testimony displaying astonishment at the withholding of aid.

[IcyPeas]

51. "I would like you to do us a favor though..."

there it is.

the end.

[getagrip_already]

84. we really don't know if trump said...

"me" or "us". It's just what's in the memo the wh released.

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52. Cicilline done. Mike Johnson (R-LA) up

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54. Johnson whining about "process"

[Midnightwalk]

55. 7.5 hour review in 5 minutes

But there won’t be a single question on evidence

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56. The only "evidence" they provided were 2 clips of Biden in interviews during that whole time

[crickets]

57. Ha, I know. Hit the mute button so fast. nt

[hibbing]

60. Mike Johnson - Was this guy a weatherman on local teevee at some point?

I'm shocked that a Democratic member of the House would donate to the campaign of a Democratic candidate.

No questions, no questions, no questions.


Peace

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58. Johnson is showing how his elementary school self can read a speech

[crickets]

63. More campaign contribution talking points

Ya know, lets talk about campaign contributions. Let's talk about those receiving them in Congress, shall we? Lets talk about dark money and millions from Russian oligarchs. Let's!

Honestly, if the Republicans want to go there, I would love it if the Democrats blew that issue wide open and made them very, very sorry.

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59. Johnson done. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) up - CORRECTING THE BULLSHIT

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61. Swalwell - bringing up Trump U and Trump Foundation!!!!!!!!!!!! "Fraud"

[Midnightwalk]

67. The anti corrupt president

Or something like that. Swalwell is doing great with the who did xyz corrupt. President trump.

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62. Swalwell - "We know what the president did and we know when he did it"

(riff on Howard Baker's famous quote)

[malaise]

64. President Trump - the central player in this scheme

Don the Con knew everything.
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah - I love Swalwell

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68. Whis whole line of questioning was excellent!

[malaise]

71. Brilliant

I do like him

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75. He's young and scrappy

[crickets]

70. +1

[jayschool2013]

65. Swalwell summarized

"Who's a completely corrupt asshole running this entire scheme?"

Goldman: "President Trump."

[sheshe2]

80. I do love Mr. Goldman.

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66. Swalwell done. Andy Biggs (R-AZ) up

[elleng]

73. Thanks, Bum.

'Mr. biggs what's direct evidence?' ????

[BumRushDaShow]

82. Democrats have provided visually - tons of "evidence"

Texts, clips of testimony, emails, transcripts of phone calls and testimony, and pressers by the President and they don't consider that "evidence".

[elleng]

88. repugs fixated on 'hearsay,' contrasted with 'direct evidence,'

AS IF this were a trial (in COURT,) which it ISN'T!!!

[BumRushDaShow]

91. But even then, they are ignoring the "evidence" from testimony being displayed on the monitors

[elleng]

94. CLEARLY not interested in EVIDENCE!

[Mersky]

69. Oh, that Sept 14 exchange between Volker and Yermak is a gem

Glad Swalwell brought that back around. Especially, since the Russian foreign minister, lavrov, will meet with tRump tomorrow.

Thank you, Congressman Swallwell!

[BumRushDaShow]

74. Yup - several of the D congress folks brought up the meeting with Russia for tomorrow

[demmiblue]

76. Swalwell FTW!

Hot damn, he is good!

[bluestarone]

99. Love this!!

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77. Biggs done. Ted Lieu (D-CA) up

[crickets]

85. Impoundment Control Act of 1974

https://budget.house.gov/publications/report/impoundment-control-act-1974-what-it-why-does-it-matter

He's hitting all the high points:

Violating federal election law
Putting personal interest ahead of national security

Thumbs up to Lieu drawing parallels with military service and how CiC should not be held to a lower standard than anyone else serving in the military.

[BumRushDaShow]

90. Yup.

That money almost fell back into the Treasury because it was being held right up to the end of the fiscal year and there would have needed to be extraordinary measures done to not "lose" it (meaning reprogrammed by Congress).

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96. ****Impeachment thread # 6**** up

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212765843

[joost5]

81. Rs are a bunch of cry babies about "process" but

can't deny the facts. They're trying to obfuscate but to ZERO effect.

Also, Drumpf deserved impeachment on Day #1 of his "presidency" for emoluments violations alone. Plus illegal Stormy Daniels payment.

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83. Lieu running through the evidence for impeachable offenses

including leveraging taxpayer money for person gain.

[malaise]

87. The losing side respects the will of the voters

Guess that's why the Minority in the House still believes it is the Majority.

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86. Lieu done. Tom McClintock (R-CA) up

(another seat we need to take )

[IcyPeas]

89. Lieu is so good -- concise, relaxed, very clear and simple

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93. McClintock whining about process

[Midnightwalk]

92. Insufficient evidence of collusion in mueller report

Not none. Lot’s of evidence of obstruction. I’m so tired of that lie.

[FM123]

95. Love "no one is above the law" Lieu!

[IcyPeas]

98. except one exception: the democrats

projecting again are we?

[FM123]

106. I'm not sure exactly what that means about the exception, but

I love that Lieu ends every testimony with "no one is above the law".

[IcyPeas]

107. the guy after Lieu said that (sorry not clear)

[FM123]

108. I missed that! I found myself hitting mute the second our guys finished speaking.

Some of those repugs made my ears bleed, lol.

[NJCher]

97. effective communications technique

When Swalwell used repetition to drive home the fact that there is one person and one person only responsible for this crime:

Swalwell: Who called Zelensky to "ask for a favor" to stage an investigation on Joe Biden?

Goldman: President Trump.

Swalwell: Who told Pence he could not go to Zelensky's inauguration?

Goldman: President Trump.

Swalwell: Who prevented witnesses from testifying?

Goldman: President Trump.

This went on and on. It was shocking how many of the actions required to carry out this crime were directly performed by "President Trump."

[Midnightwalk]

101. Who's the leader of the coup

Who betrayed you and me?

D-o-n-a-l-d t-r-u-m-p

[Mersky]

100. It's 2019, not 2017 mcclintock

No one has called for a nullification of the election.

It’s been all of the self-dealing corruption and crime committed over the past two and a half years that has lead to impeachment.

[BumRushDaShow]

102. ****Impeachment thread # 6**** up

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212765843

[gulliver]

103. Wish they would include Trump's line about Yovanovitch ("she's going to go through some things")

That's very thuggish, mafioso-like, and memorable to people on gut level.