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Mon Dec 9, 2019, 05:38 PM

There is no hope that any Republicans will look at the evidence and change their mind...

...so Democrats are left on their own to defend our country and our Constitution.

Is it important enough to impeach the president of the United States?

It is not just about one phone call to the president of Ukraine.

It is about a pattern of criminality and threatening the national security of the country. It didn't happen with just one phone call. It just so happens that is the one they have a transcript for. That is the evidence.

There were multiple statements made under oath that shows Donald Trump was attempting to obstruct the investigation of Robert Mueller. He made threats to witnesses and waved pardons in front of those he did not want to talk. He attacked our allies and praised Putin. Every time he acted in a major way, it helped Russia and Putin. He stood on a stage in Helsinki and praised Putin over his own America. He had a phone call with the leader of Turkey and immediately decided to withdraw American troops that were supporting the Kurds. They were left at the mercy of their enemies.

Whether it is about politics, or hatred, or criminality, it doesn't matter. It doesn't have to be "criminal" to be an impeachable offense. The obstruction of a legitimate investigation, the obstruction of the Legislative Branch of government, by blocking witnesses and documents, the misuse of power for personal use over national security, are all impeachable offenses. There should be no questions from even one American that there has been widespread disrespect for the law and for our Constitution.

So, Democrats are at a place in history where they must choose the side that is right, that is moral, and that is constitutional. They must feel in their hearts that they have made the right decision.

In my opinion, the House should impeach and send the Articles of Impeachment to the US Senate to adjudicate. The Senators should be forced to make a decision on this matter. Regardless of who might benefit politically, they should be confronted with the Constitution of the United States. They should be exposed to all the facts and all the evidence.

Whether or not any Republicans join the effort to hold a lawless president accountable, it is the right thing to do. History will not be kind to the Republicans that have defended and promoted these illegal behaviors.

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Reply There is no hope that any Republicans will look at the evidence and change their mind... (Original post)
kentuck Dec 2019 OP
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mopinko Dec 2019 #2
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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 05:55 PM

1. I thought I saw (on this forum)

the statement that if the vote in the Senate was anonymous Trump would be impeached. Plus they only really need to swing 4 R's I believe. It can still be done.... (fingers crossed!)

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Mon Dec 9, 2019, 05:58 PM

2. none so blind, etc etc.

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Mon Dec 9, 2019, 06:00 PM

3. traitors to this nation and all it stands for

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 06:07 PM

4. Then our objective is to put them on trial with Trump.

Force them to broadcast to the entire planet what kinds of asshats they are.

This whole thing needs to be as humiliating as possible for these fuckscabs.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 06:42 PM

5. And Republicans are only a quarter of the electorate.

Conservative-leaning indies are reportedly much less loyal than Pubs. It'd be nice if more than just a fringe of those voted Democrat, but we're already a majority and need some small percentage of of the wobblies to be so disgusted and disillusioned that they don't vote to change everything.

We know the Republican Party has been hemorrhaging support and that some new indies will be that disgusted, just not how many. Just imagine being Republican and trying to get Trump from here to November 3 without more of what he does best. Not going to happen.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 06:50 PM

6. Repukes would vote for the devil himself if he was a Republican and was against Libs...... nt

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