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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 06:44 PM Dec 2019

10-12 Moderate Dems want Censure over Impeachment


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Censure is pathetic. It's a slap on the wrist that tells Dictator Donny, "You were a bad boy. Don't do it again or you get timeout!" This will also give Republicans strong talking points that even Dems weren't united against Trump.

When even some Democrats refuse to uphold the Constitution, this country is absolutely doomed. I have no optimism or hope for this country. We are heading into dictatorship territory. If I had the means, I'd be moving out of this country immediately.
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10-12 Moderate Dems want Censure over Impeachment (Original Post) OliverQ Dec 2019 OP
Moderate FiveGoodMen Dec 2019 #1
Do you want to lose the house ? The only reason we have it is because of moderates...40 Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #3
Without rule of law or a contained POTUS, pardon my French, but who gives a FUCK about the house? Moostache Dec 2019 #8
boy do i agree with you SterlingPound Dec 2019 #17
There are not going to be any consequences as the Senate GOP scum bags are not going to Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #20
Hell, it's not just the House but the entire fucking republic. triron Dec 2019 #21
Do you want to watch Dictator Donny become a real Bettie Dec 2019 #10
They aren't moderates, they're idiots. SharonClark Dec 2019 #14
+infinityandbeyond SterlingPound Dec 2019 #16
Fuck no onecaliberal Dec 2019 #2
Identify them by name and start primary challenges to them all tonight. Moostache Dec 2019 #4
Fuck no EveHammond13 Dec 2019 #5
I don't care what your politics are BuffaloJackalope Dec 2019 #6
really bad idea... handmade34 Dec 2019 #7
Are they serious? FM123 Dec 2019 #9
Could be trying to see if they can get a few Republicans to join in FBaggins Dec 2019 #11
NO. IMPEACHMENT WILL STICK TO THIS SLIME. The stench will cover him forever. The Wielding Truth Dec 2019 #12
This is why we have to have the vote this week. scheming daemons Dec 2019 #13
exactly this SterlingPound Dec 2019 #19
NOOOO MoonRiver Dec 2019 #15
Weren't quite a few democrats willing to sacrifice their jobs to pass ACA? Karadeniz Dec 2019 #18
For the most criminal president ever. Fuck that. Garrett78 Dec 2019 #22
How not to Lead 101. n/t Dagstead Bumwood Dec 2019 #23
names please... stillcool Dec 2019 #24

Demsrule86

(70,842 posts)
3. Do you want to lose the house ? The only reason we have it is because of moderates...40
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 06:52 PM
Dec 2019

of them who won in 18.

Moostache

(10,115 posts)
8. Without rule of law or a contained POTUS, pardon my French, but who gives a FUCK about the house?
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 07:00 PM
Dec 2019

So we took the house, we got to chair the committees.

We uncovered MASSIVE, impeachable offenses and violations of the oath of office for POTUS.
Now we want to slap him on the wrist and quit because there are too many rubes in the home district that just aren't sure?

If there are no consequences - even ones that will only become obvious in history books and after the fact - then I don't give a fuck about controlling the House alone.

Truman was right - people will always vote for the Republican over a Democrat trying to act like a Republican.
Primary them all, excise the dead ideological weight.

Demsrule86

(70,842 posts)
20. There are not going to be any consequences as the Senate GOP scum bags are not going to
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 08:19 PM
Dec 2019

convict...and taking the house probably saved the 2020 election. We need the House and the Senate to restore the rule of law...and we need to kick Trump to the curb.

 

triron

(22,240 posts)
21. Hell, it's not just the House but the entire fucking republic.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 08:23 PM
Dec 2019

If we just censure we are saying treason no big deal.

Putin will be very happy.

Bettie

(16,849 posts)
10. Do you want to watch Dictator Donny become a real
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 07:08 PM
Dec 2019

dictator, ending any pretense of us being a Democracy?

Censure is the same as giving him a golden ticket to do whatever the fuck he wants to.

It tells him that there are zero consequences for any action he takes.

Just think of what he'll do if congress tells him explicitly (by censure, which is essentially a note in his "permanent record&quot that he can do anything he wants to and no one will take a single step to stop it!

SharonClark

(10,251 posts)
14. They aren't moderates, they're idiots.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 07:29 PM
Dec 2019

They can push censure all they want but it won’t save them at election time. Repugs always prefer to vote for real repugs and not weak Dems.

Moostache

(10,115 posts)
4. Identify them by name and start primary challenges to them all tonight.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 06:54 PM
Dec 2019

That is EXACTLY the kind of weak, non-thought out acceptance of GOP bullshit that makes me loathe certain elements of the party in general. FUCK THEM, leave....now....here, haul ass and take your shitty ideas with you.

Don't want to stay with the team on defending the rule of law and that thing called the Constitution?
Want to rubber stamp Executive crime and extortion as "A-OK"?
Want to capitulate AGAIN and paint the party as lacking devotion or courage of conviction?

Good, get the fuck out and I hope the door slaps your bitch ass on the way out.

Trump broke the law AND violated the Constitution. Repeatedly. This Ukraine thing is just the most blatant AND stupid.
He wipes his ass on the rule of law and people want to go easy on him?
I don't think so...

Well, if you are worried about re-election NOW, before the vote and the next campaign...you are going to live in abject TERROR for the rest of your short political career because I will find like-minded individuals, and we will hunt down your donors and party backers and we will primary THEM too unless they cut you loose and expel you from the party in general.

NOT ONE CONGRESSPERSON form the party should vote against the articles of impeachment and if they do, they MUST be run out of the party for handing the filthy GOP a "bi-partisan" talking point.

Seriously, I have less than no use for this thought process or people who think its a great compromise...you don't stumble on a murder scene, see the killer put the gun in his back pocket and then offer a manslaughter charge to avoid a divisive trial, even if the killer's cousin is the judge, his 12 inbred other cousins are the jury and his mom is bailiff.

 

BuffaloJackalope

(818 posts)
6. I don't care what your politics are
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 06:55 PM
Dec 2019

If you love this country you should be SHITTING BRICKS to get this corrupt asshole out of there!

FM123

(10,111 posts)
9. Are they serious?
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 07:06 PM
Dec 2019

Or is this a Susan Collins type of song and dance they feel they have to perform for their constituents before they vote with the party....

FBaggins

(27,438 posts)
11. Could be trying to see if they can get a few Republicans to join in
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 07:13 PM
Dec 2019

Might be the only way to hint that it's not an entirely partisan exercise.

The Wielding Truth

(11,420 posts)
12. NO. IMPEACHMENT WILL STICK TO THIS SLIME. The stench will cover him forever.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 07:19 PM
Dec 2019

He must have a warning sign on him to prevent anyone from being taken by him again.
Censure is nothing.

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
13. This is why we have to have the vote this week.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 07:24 PM
Dec 2019

So any of these assholes that vote against impeachment can be primaried.

stillcool

(32,632 posts)
24. names please...
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 09:20 PM
Dec 2019

I don't believe the Republicans will do anything but help Trump, but, it makes no sense to stop the train before it gets to the station. I read of one person who had considered the censure way, but has come back to the impeachment fold. I don't really care, except for the possibility that Americans might learn something.

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