BREAKING: Moderate Dem Conor Lamb (PA) announces that he will vote *FOR* Impeachment!

[scheming daemons]

Some things are bigger than political fallout.

https://www.wtae.com/article/conor-lamb-will-vote-for-articles-of-impeachment-president-donald-trump/30209211

Link to tweet

[CaliforniaPeggy]

1. That's great! I admire his stand. He is a good Dem. n/t

[Fiendish Thingy]

2. Any Dem who votes against impeachment should be primaried nt

[Eliot Rosewater]

3. Whether we lose the seat to the GOP or not, right?

[scheming daemons]

5. If they vote against impeachment, they aren't really a Dem

[Demsrule86]

44. They are Democrats and their presence gives us a majority...we won few liberal seats in 18...

and those we did were in Democratic hands...musical chairs...you want progressive policy, you have to win. And without moderates from red or purple states, we will never have majorities which means no judges and no policy.

[radius777]

61. There isn't anything ideological about voting for impeachment.

This isn't a left or right or moderate issue - but a duty to defend the Constitution, where the evidence is clear that Trump is guilty.

All Dems must vote to impeach; anything less is to cave to the GOP narrative that Trump is a legitimate president (he isn't) who seeks the best interest of our country (he doesn't).

[Fiendish Thingy]

6. Country before party, right? Nt

[Eliot Rosewater]

10. Country is served by putting GOP in a seat? Like the other poster said, if we didnt have these

blue dog types we would not control the House. If people dont understand that, I quit.

[Fiendish Thingy]

13. Country is served by failing to keep oath of office and defend the Constitution ? Nt

[stopdiggin]

25. SO FAR our country has been served much better

by having control of at least ONE chamber of ONE branch of the government. (remember when we had none? .. I know it was SO long ago.)

I'll continue to vote for ANY Democrat anywhere .. until the sewage has been removed. 'Fraid we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one, pal.

[AlexSFCA]

35. exactly, for that reason alone, ANY dem is better than any gop

I’ll take a DINO over RINO any day.

[Demsrule86]

45. AOC runs in a blue district...it risks nothing for her to vote for impeachment...although I hear

from friends that she is facing a primary Challenger herself.

[CanonRay]

8. It's about upholding your Oath of Office

"preserve, protect, and defend" etc etc.

[blueinredohio]

12. I understand the point of having a democrat keep the seat

but if they're going to let republicans get away with whatever they want what's the point?

[Demsrule86]

43. What does impeachment without conviction really do? How does it uphold the rule of law?

[blueinredohio]

55. It shows the criminals that we are watching and are not afraid of holding them accountable.

[Demsrule86]

59. And if the criminal wins the house back and another four years...what exactly have we accomplished?

[blueinredohio]

62. We'll worry about that when the time comes.

One step at a time.

[Eliot Rosewater]

56. HUGE point..The party with ONE MORE SEAT than the other party

makes all the rules, if we lost the House by ONE SEAT there would be NO investigation of rump, for instance.

Control of the House or Senate by ONE seat is E V E R Y T H I N G

[blueinredohio]

57. We can be in control and make the rules

but if no one follows the rules and nothing happens to them, then what?

[Eliot Rosewater]

58. It is not just rules, if we are not in control there are ZERO investigations of the traitor, that is

but one example.

Do people understand what it means to be in the majority in our system? Maybe not.

[DeminPennswoods]

32. Lamb won by 10+ points

over the incumbent. It's not really a competitive seat and Lamb voters are in the Allegheny County part of the district, not the other main part.

[Takket]

53. Yes

Defending the country > a house seat

And besides at this point voting against impeachment doesn’t help our candidates, it hurts them. This is a majority supported process.

[blueinredohio]

4. If they vote against impeachment they are showing its about keeping their seat

not the rule of law.

[bearsfootball516]

7. We wouldn't be even having this impeachment if it wasn't for those seats won in 2018

If we can impeach and still save some of those seats to maintain the majority, they have to try.

[Eliot Rosewater]

9. Thanks,and as disgusting as it would be for someone to vote against impeachment

if it keeps the seat OUT of the hands of the FASCIST KILLERS, do I have to say more?

sigh

[stopdiggin]

26. here we go with the purity over politics crowd

I'm for putting a D in the White House .. and beside as many names in both chambers of congress as possible. (And for good measure .. as many statehouses, governors and mayors as possible as well.) It's called winning. And you do THAT before you start calling the shots.

[Eliot Rosewater]

28. Yes, or common sense

[Demsrule86]

40. I completely agree Eliot...

[Demsrule86]

41. We could lose the majority is it worth the risk? Losing the House... I say no...not without a

possible conviction. God forbid we lose the House and the presidency.

[Demsrule86]

42. I say keep the seats...we need the house period. And we are not going to remove Trump as asshole

McConnell won't allow a conviction under any circumstances. The only way to get Trump out is to win the coming elections.

[IronLionZion]

16. It's swing district moderates who are worried about it

Dems should be working out behind the scenes how many they need to impeach and make sure they get that number first. Then moderates can work out how risky it would be to their reelection. I'm hoping popular support has turned against Trump that this wouldn't be a problem.

[DeminPennswoods]

33. Not a swing district

Lamb won by 10 points over multiple term incumbent Keith Rothfus.

[IronLionZion]

47. Dem districts should be an easy vote

[Garrett78]

11. How big of him. I, mean, it's not like we're dealing with the most criminal president in history.

[scheming daemons]

14. He's in a very tough district for Democrats. Very purple.

This is an act of courage, because it could cost him his seat.


He is putting the country above his job.

[Garrett78]

34. It's such a sorry state of affairs. Impeachment and removal should be a given.

[Demsrule86]

39. I am not there...I see no reason to force moderate Democrats to vote for impeachment when we can't

convict...yeah Trump is guilty as sin...so do we want to help him win in 20 and maybe take the house? God no. If it were me, I would vote in the house and then table it and not send it to the Senate...waste of time and that would limit the damage it will do to our campaigns. Nancy can say with perfect truth that McConnell has said there will be no conviction.

[scheming daemons]

48. You are misreading this

Getting vulnerable GOP senators to vote, on the record, to acquit or convict him helps us flip the senate.


Impeachment won't cost us the House. We might pick up seats.

[Demsrule86]

51. What about the house...and what makes you think in areas the GOP are running in that

impeachment is popular? We are putting the house at risk and the senate is a long shot at best. I imagine we lose Alabama for sure...and where are we getting the rest?

[jalan48]

15. Interesting how those few Democrats who will vote against impeachment are referred to as "Moderates"

by the Corporate media. If they are Moderates what does that make the vast majority who support impeachment, Radicals?

[scheming daemons]

17. Moderate just means those that are to the right of the majority of Democrats

That accurately describes Lamb.

[jalan48]

20. To me moderate means middle of the road.

[IronLionZion]

19. Liberals

It's an easy vote for liberals from liberal districts.

[bearsfootball516]

21. Because a lot of them ran center left campaigns

The 2018 wave wasn't 40 AOC's turning the tide in lean red districts. It was mostly lean left/center candidates in moderate/lean red districts talking about health care and jobs, and leaving Trump/impeachment out of it because in a lot of those districts, people don't hate Trump like they do in dark blue districts.

[jalan48]

24. So does this make all the Republicans who will vote against impeachment moderates as well? To me

that's really the messaging taking place here.

[Baked Potato]

18. Good for Congressman Lamb

he is one of the few out of state candidates we sent money to. Glad to see he’s holding the line.

[Labiglabocce]

22. Great!

Thank you, Conor Lamb!

[gratuitous]

23. Now it's time to show Rep. Lamb that we have his back

Maybe that will stiffen the spines of other similarly-situated Democrats. If you can't spare any cheddar for his re-election, call or e-mail his office with an encouraging message of support.

[mylightningtoo]

27. He is just figuring it out now?

just another politician.

[scheming daemons]

29. He's announcing it now.

And it is a brave thing to do... to put your job at stake.


Uncommon courage nowadays.

[mylightningtoo]

30. Congress is not a Jobs program

I could care less if connor lamb gets reelected, or any other politician for that matter. DO your job/do what's right for the country and let the chips fall where they may.

[scheming daemons]

31. That's exactly what he's doing!

And it *IS* uncommon nowadays, as the GOP shows us everyday.

[Demsrule86]

38. I am speechless...so it would be OK for us to lose the house? Maybe Trump gets reelected and for

what? Impeachment without conviction. And then Trump maybe gets four years with the house and the Senate...he at least gets two if we lose the house and he wins. That is my nightmare...I wake up in a cold sweat when I dream about it.

[Cosmocat]

49. No

Conner knows darn well what 45 is, his district has a VERY nasty Trump streak in it.

Gets credit for pulling the trigger here, and gotta give him the flex to time it to the last moment to give the mutton heads in his district less time to work themselves into a lather who about how "he just hates him!"

[DeminPennswoods]

36. Lamb's been wishy-washy on this for a long time

The fact is, this isn't really a swing/purple district. The smallest land part is Allegheny, but that's where the majority of voters live and they support impeachment. Lamb's been trying to play "moderate" in an effort to win over voters who live outside Allegheny County. Maybe he's figured out he's not winning over the conservative voters here.

[Demsrule86]

37. Unless we can convict which we can't...it is not worth losing the House...God forbid Trump wins

and we lose the house and he has absolute power for four years. We need to be very careful about forcing house moderates who won a majority for us in 18, to vote for impeachment. When impeachment is over, Trump will still be in office...and we need to hold onto the house.

[scheming daemons]

46. The value of impeachment isn't just necessarily if we get a conviction

The trial in the Senate forces VERY tough votes for:

Collins
Gardner
Tillis
Ernst
McSally

All of which are up for election in 2020.


If they vote to acquit, they lose independents in their very purple states.

If they vote to convict, they lose MAGA.


Getting their votes on the record flips the senate for us.



Impeachment without conviction is *STILL* a political win.

[DFW]

50. Considering the district he comes from

This was not a given. He deserves some serious support for his re-election campaign.

[Gothmog]

52. This is great news

[yortsed snacilbuper]

54. I'm not in his district, but I donated to his campaign.

I figured he would do the right thing.

[BlueWI]

60. Good call.

We worry about Republicans not convicting when it's never been a sure thing that Democrats impeach.

Time to cash your chips in for the sake of rule of law.