****House Judiciary votes on articles of impeachment. Live stream. thread 3****

[BumRushDaShow]

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1. David Cicilline (D-RI) CORRECTING THE record. Just yielded to Swalwell.

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2. *** RECESS FOR VOTES WILL RESUME WHEN VOTES ARE DONE***

[Kali]

3. any idea on time?

I am not getting anything done this week!

[BumRushDaShow]

5. They didn't say.

Not sure how many votes they have...

And I hear ya! This has been draining to say the least but I was determined to see it "live". It's harder nowadays to find 4 - 8 hours of "free time" to watch the repeats...

[Kali]

7. I appreciate you and all who do these threads

especially having the links/vids in the OPs. thank you!

[BumRushDaShow]

13. No problem

My poor fingers are superimposing "d" and "r" at times as I try to touch type a response in the reply box from something I just heard and then fast-edit it before posting..

[dweller]

4. i'm just tuning in

so they are voting, but not televised?

✌🏼

[BumRushDaShow]

6. They had to recess for regular House legislation votes

and they will return to continue debating and marking up the Articles of Impeachment. This markup has been focusing on amendments to the draft Articles.

[eleny]

8. MSNBC saying Dems, GOP clash

I had to step away for a bit. Did I miss any fireworks?

[BumRushDaShow]

11. Democrats were systematically correcting the record

and repeating the FACTS. Plus several of them put the question out to the GOP - "Do they believe that soliciting a foreign country to investigate a political rival ahead of an election is acceptable?" (as well as the similar question about thinking it was okay to strong-arm a foreign country to carry out their political will). And at some point, that latter question got a Gymsuit Jordan response using the Mulvaney defense - "Of course he can do that. That's politics!!!111!!!!".

[eleny]

12. Thereby revealing how corrup he and rest of the Rs are

Thanks!

[BumRushDaShow]

14. Exactly!

It's breathtaking.

The GOP went low and dirty with the Biden crap because a couple of the Democrats mentioned the fraudulent Trump Foundation and Trump University and the $25 million settlement that was made and then hinted at all the other stuff that the NY AG is investigating - and then asked them how they could consider him an "anti-corruption President?"

[eleny]

99. Omg, I missed more than I thought

Thanks for getting me up to speed!

[elleng]

9. Tuned in late, and leaving for a while later, so THANKS all

for following this for us all.

[IcyPeas]

10. CNN talking about Greta vs trump

no mention of Baron and why you can't pick on him because he is a child and it's mean ... but Greta...... fair game?


Edit to say Gloria Borger just mentioned Baron but it was quickly passed over.

[BumRushDaShow]

15. Borger has been relatively "better" than Mrs. Greenspan

but when the pundits get to punditing, they keep going for the false "balance".

I left the tv on CSPAN3 with the sound down.

[Kali]

28. to be fair (god why are we so damn fair?)

she is a public figure "by choice" so the comparison is not equivalent.

[exboyfil]

82. Great point

I was thinking the same. Still you would expect adults to engage her as an adult. Of course Trump prefers to engage her like a child who was much younger than her would. He does that with everyone.

[BumRushDaShow]

16. I quickly went to regular CSPAN and they have been voting on the Prescription Drug Prices

and Medicare bill - apparently debating/voting on amendments.

Now they are doing the final vote for passage.

[IcyPeas]

17. they are coming back in.

[BumRushDaShow]

18. Yup - got the big screen on 'em! They did pass that bill

And it will go over to the Senate and get thrown into Turtle's HUGE pile of other legislation that the Democratic House passed and sent to the Senate that the GOP lies about not existing.

Thank you!!

[IcyPeas]

20. mcturtle sickens me

[The_Counsel]

19. OMG! Who's Watching the WaPo Coverage Now???

They just went through video a collage of no less than 25 different GOP "defenses" of Donald Trump!

It could have been more: I was typing this post while laughing hysterically and may have missed one or three....

[BumRushDaShow]

21. Nadler back now gaveling back in

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22. Ken Buck (R-CO) up - NEW STRATEGY

"Obstruction of congress is a campaign promise"

"We were sent here to obstruct this congress."

[IcyPeas]

24. "cutting regulations" like that is a good thing

SMH

[The_Counsel]

26. That's New.

Obstruction is STILL a crime, however....

[BumRushDaShow]

32. But no! It's a "campaign promise"

to blow-up what congress stands for!!1!!!111!!!!!!

[The_Counsel]

40. Still a Crime, Though.

I wish I WOULD run for President on an "I'm going to take over and abolish two entire branches of government" platform. Even Hitler didn't do that....

[BumRushDaShow]

47. But the GOP has actually pretty much done that

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23. Debbie Lesko (R-AZ) up - whining

Wait... first they claimed Biden's name wasn't on the transcript. NOW they are admitting it was in the transcript (so they can now introduce the Biden CT smears).

[IcyPeas]

25. a-a-a-a-and back to Joe and Hunter Biden

[hibbing]

27. Always, Biden is going to be hurt by this imho n/t

[IcyPeas]

29. yes, but trump isn't hurt by anything HE does

the "Rs" are very good at this. not so much the "Ds"

[BumRushDaShow]

30. Nadler up for himself to reiterate why they are there

"Cannot tolerate in a President subverting free and fair elections"

"Separation of powers"

"President sought to destroy that by categorically withholding documents"

"Nobody can be a dictator."

[malaise]

37. Nadler was excellent n/t

[BumRushDaShow]

31. Mike Johnson (R-LA) up and now impugning Nadler

[lynintenn]

35. He reminds me of some preppie frat boy .

[lynintenn]

33. If Biden debates Trump

It will be all about Barisma and Obama. Trump will call for Hunter to be investigated and arrested and the crown will be saying lock him up. I think all this hurts Joe Biden.

[IcyPeas]

36. then Biden has to come after him with

every friggen crime trump and his children have committed. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Every single one of trump's failures in life. HE HAS TO BRING ALL OF THIS AND MORE. throw it back in his face.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

43. Strongly disagree. Trump's supporters don't care.

This election has to be about policy and making sure that Dems that are usually low voter turnout actually turn out. And this being a "which side committed more crimes" thing isn't going to get them to vote.

[LiberalFighter]

102. I wouldn't worry about Trump's supporters.

They aren't as large as it is made out to be.

Get them all riled up and they have heart attacks.

[nolabear]

41. Only if the moderators and Biden's team let it.

Of course he’ll go there any time he can. It’s important to give it one powerful rebuttal in the context of a question and in every other circumstance reprimand him about his lack of giving a damn about the people who want to know his intentions as president and his clear disdain for the centuries of efforts made by what he calls “The Swamp” and “Deep State” to improve life and ensure freedom for all Americans, not just those who cheer him at rallies.

[bdamomma]

34. hey everyone

getting here late, just reading the thread. So the party of trump are acting like a** holes still.

They are holding on to him but they will go down with the ship.

[BumRushDaShow]

38. Greg Stanton (D-AZ) - correcting the record on why they are there

"We disagree with separating children"
"We disagree with removing preexisting condition protections:"
"We disagree with being pulled out of the climate change agreement"

"President has chosen to put his personal interest ahead of national interest"

"That's the ONLY reason why we are here. "Is any person above the law?"

[BumRushDaShow]

39. Stanton yielded to Veronical Esocobar (D-TX)

Reminding them that there were "ellipses in the transcript" so it was not an afficial "transcript"

Also corrected the bullshit "investigation" about Biden where there was nothing found.

[BumRushDaShow]

42. Ted Deutch (D-FL) up - explaining the 3 branches

and refuses to engage and silences anyone who has info to provide to Congress - that IS "obstruction of Congress". And to somehow try to justify that as "standard practice" and only way to resolve then go to court. "THAT is not how it works. Never in the entire history of our country has this ever happened".

[BumRushDaShow]

44. Deutch done has passed time to Jamie Raskin (D-MD)

Explaining the SCOTUS cases that emphasized that the role of impeachment was given to Congress - not the courts. "No administration in history has ever done like this administration" and refused to comply with anything.

[The_Counsel]

50. So Basically, Jonathan Turley Is an Idiot, Then? Good to Know!

Well...we knew that already, but...still...

Turley insisted that Congress cannot impeach for Obstruction if they didn't go to the courts first. An utterly ridiculous premise. But the GOP swears by him, though...

[BumRushDaShow]

58. That's why he's considered a laughing stock.

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45. Auctioneer Collins up (Doug Collins R-GA)

[Zorro]

46. There are times I wish someone had a tranquilizer gun at the hearing

[BumRushDaShow]

48. ....

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49. Collins yielded to GYMSUIT who whined that everyone supposedly claimed the transcript was "perfect"

(FACT - no the Democrats said no such thing)

[BumRushDaShow]

51. Mike Johnson (R-LA) has time yielded to him to whine about the courts should decide

And Raskin is trying to correct him.

Time up.

[BumRushDaShow]

52. Madeleine Dean (D-PA) up - reading the Constitution

Constitution only uses "sole" twice. In this case, impeachment is NOT "shared with the judiciary" and is not "shared with the executive".

"SOLE. Not shared. It's a civics lesson. Don't let the others side distract you. We don't need permission to use our constitutional rules."

And she's waving the Constitution.

"Today 232 years when PA ratified the Constitution".

[Mersky]

54. Was excellent!

[BumRushDaShow]

56. One of my sisters is in her district

She just got elected in 2018 when our congressional districts were redrawn to fix the gerrymandering!

[Mersky]

67. So good to hear.

Is the kind of thing that gives me hope.

[BumRushDaShow]

53. Time yielded to Sheila Jackson-Lee

clarifying President doing this for personal benefit.

[BumRushDaShow]

55. Guy Reschenthaler (R-PA) - yielded to GOCART (Louis Gohmert R-TX)

And Gocart is now distracting from the purpose of this markup.

[The_Counsel]

57. No, Louie, This Impeachment Inquiry Didn't Start with the Mueller Investigation.

It never got that far. Indeed, Mueller all but begged Congress to start an inquiry, but alas...

[nolabear]

59. Go meet is practically making the impeachment point.

If victims don’t claim victimhood even if there’s a crime you don’t convict? I see...

[IcyPeas]

60. say it Hakeem !

[nolabear]

61. HAH! Cicilline hits him on Greta Thunberg.

Because he’s an ASSHOLE.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

62. Rep. Jefferies killing it right now. nt

[BumRushDaShow]

63. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) up - and correcting GOCART

And quoting Taylor - about why how what the President did, had not legitimate basis, and was joined with 200 national security experts.

Ticking all the people Drumpf attacked -McCain, a goldstar family, and even their own speaker Paul Ryan.S

"And he attacked a 16 year old (Greta)!!!!!"

Now invoking Elijah Cummings - "We are better than this".

"Stop attacking people who refuse to bend a knee to this President".

[Mersky]

64. False rage addict, gohmert, misrepresenting Obama's efforts in Ukraine

The ‘was only blankets’ lie is getting old. Training brigades, armored vehicles, and drones are more than blankets.

[BumRushDaShow]

65. Steve Cohen (D-TN) - showing how the GOP has spent all their time focussing on the Bidens

[superpatriotman]

68. FINALLY

there are hundreds of countries we provide billions of dollars in assistance to. Why is Hunter Biden in Ukraine the focus of twitler’s Fiscal Curiosity?

[nolabear]

66. Cohen speaks for me. YELLS for me.

Biden isn’t the point. Never has been.

[BumRushDaShow]

69. Joe Neguse (D-CO) up - explaining what "obstruction of congress" means

"Defiance of lawfully issued subpoenas by the House of Representatives. It means impeding the House from performing it's constitutional duty."

Noted how both Nixon and Clinton permitted their staff to testify vs Drumpf.

[BumRushDaShow]

70. Neguse yielded to Zoe Lofrgren (D-CA)

Emphasizing that Drumpf didn't assert privilege, he just said "no".

She is hinting that what they are trying to do is basically the unitary Executive where the Executive can do what they want.

[nolabear]

71. This IS the 2020 election, you know. It has already begun.

I’m pretty sure Joe will be the nominee. So are they. That’s why they’re doing 45’s dirty work now.

But even if not, it’s an attempt to destroy any Democratic candidate by association to the party.

VOTE, people. Be activists. Be allies to every religion, ethnicity, woman seeking body autonomy, Dreamer, asylum seeker, every single person who can help us help them!

[BumRushDaShow]

72. Tom McClintock (R-CA) and completely screwing up the separation of powers

[Mersky]

75. He really is a tool of the tyrant.

That wasn’t his point, but was my general takeaway.

[BumRushDaShow]

73. Lou Correa (D-CA) up - CORRECTING the record regarding the GOP talking point about Biden

"holding up the aid" for Ukraine.

Now invoking Ghouliani's name. And quoting Ghoul's threat that Biden will be investigated.

[BumRushDaShow]

74. David Cicilline (D-RI) reading from the report citing the FACTS.

[Mersky]

79. "If you're not up to the job, then you don't belong in Congress"

Winding up his speaking of holding the pResident to account as a part of the separation of powers.

I liked it

[BumRushDaShow]

76. Now doing a roll call vote on the Gymsuit amendment

[BumRushDaShow]

77. Andy Biggs (R-AZ) - submitted an amendment & a unanimous consent to add junk to the record

Amendment is to add that the money was then allowed to go forward.

[IcyPeas]

78. Ivanka is amazing she has created 14 million jobs - but Hunter...

Trump just gave
@IvankaTrump
credit for creating more than twice as many jobs *as the entire American economy added* since he took office

Link to tweet

[BumRushDaShow]

81. ...

[Tommy_Carcetti]

80. How many bullshit amendments are the GOP allowed in order to slow down proceedings?

This most recently one is the most hilarious of all. Might as well read, "Democrats are trying to impeach President Trump because they are all jealous haters. MAGA!"

[BumRushDaShow]

84. You should have seen what they did when they were doing the markup

for H.R. 660 - the rules for the Impeachment hearings.

[BumRushDaShow]

83. This dumbass Biggs neglects to mention that Congress HAD TO PASS LEGISLATION

so that a big chunk of that money that was withheld, wouldn't be sent back to the Treasury because it was only good for that fiscal year.

[BumRushDaShow]

85. Karen Bass (D-CA) up - once again CORRECTING THE RECORD

Aid was released ONLY after the whistle-blower came forward and pressure from Congress to do it.

Zelensky was being held hostage. Last week Zelensky had his first meeting with Putin - alone.

[BumRushDaShow]

86. Steve Chabot (D-OH) up - whining about how many people

were listening in on the President's call with Zelensky.

This idiot is actually taking up for that "frank" talk the President does.

"State Department 'needs to tighten up these calls'".

WTF Is he stupid? These were NSC people on the call.

Now he's rambling.

[BumRushDaShow]

87. Now Chabot is rambling on about Bork.

[Mersky]

88. chabot's spitballing about phone call protocol and sounding like a rube

Wondering why so many people were on the call between tRump and Zelensky.

Well, if he had paid attention to the various witness’s testimonies he would have learned a bit of why it’s the norm.

Was time-filling garbage.

[BumRushDaShow]

89. Cedric Richmond (D-LA) up

My district has people that might "speak a lot of Spanish and speak a lot of French but not a lot of Latin".

Now explaining - "quid pro quo".

"President was afraid that Joe Biden was beating him the polls".

[superpatriotman]

90. Repuke party equals Judas

Very apt description yet Judas was braver.

[BumRushDaShow]

91. Now back to Looney Louis GOCART (Louis Gohmert R-TX)

Whining about requesting records - calling that "tyrannical".

[BumRushDaShow]

92. Now Loopy Louis is whining.

[BumRushDaShow]

93. Mary Gay Scanlon up (PA-5) up - noting that this amendment

was based off a letter that was JUST ISSUED by the WH this week - months after the fact. Re: the release of the aid did "happen".

[BumRushDaShow]

94. GRATES (Matt Gaetz R-FL) up - whining about a photograher taking pics of notes on the dais

Now lying about everything Drumpf has done. Bringing up Biden again.

[BumRushDaShow]

95. When GRAETZ is on remember this

[BumRushDaShow]

96. Now GRAETZ is threatening that Democrats better "rent not buy"

in D.C. this coming election.

[BumRushDaShow]

97. ****House Judiciary votes on articles of impeachment. Live stream. thread 4**** up

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212775709

[Skidmore]

98. Gaetz appointed himself hall monitor. NT

[BumRushDaShow]

100. Armstrong just handed off to Collins

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101. Val Demmings (D-FL) up - "this is a last minute after-the-fact dsperate scramble to cover-up

the President's wrong-doing."



Wish that the GOP would spend as much time upholding "voting rights" for Americans.