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Fri Dec 13, 2019, 01:14 PM

I answered a post yesterday with this. 2 answers that didn't speak to the question...

I'd like to post as an OP and see if anybody can comment.

trump lost the popular vote by 3 million.
trump won the electoral clusterfuck by a grand total of 77,000 votes in 3 key states. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
His approval in those states... and virtually every other state... has dropped.

Take a look... https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump-2/

Yes, I know about voter suppression, gerrymandering, and I believe we've seen vote-stealing. We'll see those things in 2020.

But I can't believe that trump's low approval rate and high disapproval rate leads anywhere but a loss.

Show me how I'm wrong.

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albacore Dec 2019 OP
PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2019 #1
lame54 Dec 2019 #2
albacore Dec 2019 #4
albacore Dec 2019 #3
UniteFightBack Dec 2019 #11
malaise Dec 2019 #10
Bluesaph Dec 2019 #5
UniteFightBack Dec 2019 #12
pecosbob Dec 2019 #6
Whiskeytide Dec 2019 #7
keithbvadu2 Dec 2019 #8
lostnfound Dec 2019 #9

Response to albacore (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 02:40 PM

1. What will show whether you're right or wrong

will be the actual vote on election day next year.

I recall all too well how in 2003 and 2004 there were so very many reports of people who'd voted for Bush in 2000 who were saying they were not about to vote for him again. So it was obvious to the most casual observer that Bush would lose in 2004. Remind me how that turned out?

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 02:55 PM

2. They cheated in Ohio

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Response to lame54 (Reply #2)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 03:39 PM

4. trump's net approval is down 5 in Ohio. They're gonna have to cheat a LOT more. nt

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 03:35 PM

3. The polls were actually pretty close in 2016.

Clinton was supposed to win by 3.1%.... she won by 2.1%

Those are not "...so many reports...". Those are actual numbers.

And if you look at the interactive chart I posted, trump is down in the key states.

I'm NOT saying to get overconfident... just that I don't see the numbers that show a trump victory.

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Response to albacore (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 07:16 AM

11. Keep your eye on how many undecideds there are. In 2016 I was noticing a lot of undecideds in the

 

polls and I wondered who those people were going to break for. I don't understand the statement the polls were wrong in 2016...I think they were pretty accurate and within the margins of error.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 07:09 AM

10. Ask Michael Connell

Oh no - he died in a very strange plane crash

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Response to albacore (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:05 PM

5. Tulsi Gabbard will be a spoiler

And Bernie Bros etc will vote for her.

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Response to Bluesaph (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 07:17 AM

12. I think you are giving her way to much credit. nt

 

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Response to albacore (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:55 PM

6. Riddle me this...how could Trump's support go down but still pull out a victory?

You don't need to win the vote...you only need to win the counting.

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Response to albacore (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:58 PM

7. It's electoral college math. A Dem could, theoretically...

... win by 30m or so in the popular vote and still lose the electoral college if the states line up for trump.

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Response to albacore (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 08:59 PM

8. The big concern should be the stay-at-home voters

The big concern should be the stay-at-home voters

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Response to albacore (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 07:06 AM

9. One scenario. Election gets hacked and "counter-hacked"..refuses to leave office

An obvious “can’t be real result” in one or two states, and throw the country into chaos.
Like what happened in a Pennsylvania election (which totaled 156 to 55,000 but backup paper shows basically a tie), except in favor of the democrat. Republicans declare the election fraudulent.

Putin’s wet dream.

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