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Fri Dec 13, 2019, 03:59 PM

"You cannot take the vote away from 63 million people that voted for Donald Trump".

No, but you can take the vote away from 66 million that voted against him?

Don't they ever think of all the votes against Trump when they say that?

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Reply "You cannot take the vote away from 63 million people that voted for Donald Trump". (Original post)
kentuck Dec 2019 OP
DinahMoeHum Dec 2019 #1
lame54 Dec 2019 #11
DinahMoeHum Dec 2019 #13
pnwmom Dec 2019 #25
The_Counsel Dec 2019 #26
pnwmom Dec 2019 #29
0rganism Dec 2019 #2
MontanaMama Dec 2019 #3
kentuck Dec 2019 #7
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2019 #4
Moostache Dec 2019 #5
rickyhall Dec 2019 #38
C_U_L8R Dec 2019 #6
Delmette2.0 Dec 2019 #37
ThoughtCriminal Dec 2019 #8
Atticus Dec 2019 #9
DinahMoeHum Dec 2019 #15
Atticus Dec 2019 #19
NewJeffCT Dec 2019 #10
Claritie Pixie Dec 2019 #12
charliea Dec 2019 #20
StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #14
SKKY Dec 2019 #16
rzemanfl Dec 2019 #17
CaptYossarian Dec 2019 #18
hurple Dec 2019 #21
StatGirl Dec 2019 #22
bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #23
IronLionZion Dec 2019 #24
The Genealogist Dec 2019 #44
sandensea Dec 2019 #27
Botany Dec 2019 #31
sandensea Dec 2019 #32
Botany Dec 2019 #33
sandensea Dec 2019 #39
kentuck Dec 2019 #55
aggiesal Dec 2019 #36
sandensea Dec 2019 #41
sprinkleeninow Dec 2019 #52
Wawannabe Dec 2019 #28
Botany Dec 2019 #30
aggiesal Dec 2019 #34
jmowreader Dec 2019 #35
struggle4progress Dec 2019 #40
lambchopp59 Dec 2019 #42
John Fante Dec 2019 #43
ck4829 Dec 2019 #50
Catherine Vincent Dec 2019 #45
TNNurse Dec 2019 #46
elder phd Dec 2019 #47
elder phd Dec 2019 #48
aggiesal Dec 2019 #56
ck4829 Dec 2019 #49
sprinkleeninow Dec 2019 #51
unblock Dec 2019 #53
Garrett78 Dec 2019 #54

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:02 PM

1. Correction: the 66 miilion who voted for Hilary Clinton

n/t

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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:20 PM

11. Yes, there were more that voted against Trump

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Response to lame54 (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:27 PM

13. The voting tabulators do not count who you vote against. . .

. . .only who you vote FOR.

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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #13)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:01 PM

25. But the 66 million doesn't include another 3 million or so who also voted against Trump --

those who voted for Jill Stein, etc.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #25)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:08 PM

26. Actually, It's Even More than That...

By my count, it's just under 74 million that voted against Trump.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election#Candidates_table

The highest raw total ever. Yet he he still got to be President. Damned Electoral College...

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Response to The_Counsel (Reply #26)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:11 PM

29. Thanks, The_Counsel, for the back-up. That's quite a number! nt

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:03 PM

2. the votes against Trump are not legitimate to the cultists

they brook no disagreement. to vote against Trump is to stand against God and country.

the thing that really torches that stupidity is VP Pence -- even if Trump goes, they still have that bible thumping demi-albino to lead them forward. it's such bullshit.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:03 PM

3. To the tRump humpers I say

Hold our beer and watch this...

We might not be able to remove him from office but he and his ilk will forever be remembered as the stain they are on our nation.

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:06 PM

7. The "Do-Nothing Democrats" can impeach his sorry ass.

What will they do? Try to get it reversed?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:03 PM

4. No

They have their heads up their collective asses.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:05 PM

5. Now, if we could only get a few million of the 100+ million voters who skipped 2016 to show up...

66 M to Hillary
63 M to Chump
100M couldn't be bothered to wander into a voting booth...

[link:https://fortune.com/2018/08/09/nonvoters-trump-presidency-pew-study/|

Sad but true, 40% of eligible voters did not participate...

And while the study shows that nonvoters were less likely to align with the Republican Party, the data gets fuzzier in terms of how nonvoters feel ideologically. “Owing in part to the tendency of nonvoters to be politically disengaged more generally, there are far more nonvoters than voters who fall into the ‘mixed’ category on the ideological consistency scale,” the study authors noted.


The truth is there are more people who do not follow, engage in or participate in our politics than those that do...getting them to engage is the entire battle - Trump's approval is mired in the low-40%s and has ALWAYS been there or lower...we need people to give a shit and show up in 2020...EVERYWHERE - not just fucking Iowa or South Carolina or Nevada...in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, North Carolina, Texas and Georgia...

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Response to Moostache (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:36 PM

38. But if they did vote the Repugs wouldn't stand a chance and they know that

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:05 PM

6. The guy they voted for turned out to be a crook

They didn't vote to give him absolute immunity.
The twisted republican logic around this stuff is extremely fucked up.

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #6)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:32 PM

37. +1

Dipshit lied during the campaign, that is what people voted for. They did not vote for a monarchy.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:11 PM

8. Then explain your vote to impeach President Clinton

but.... but... but...

Yargle bargle!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:17 PM

9. Actually, 66 million is merely the number of votes cast for Hillary Clinton. Add in the votes cast

for all the "minor" candidates, and it was approximately 75 million who voted for someone other than Trump.

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Response to Atticus (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:32 PM

15. Like I said, voting machines do not tabulate who you vote against. . .

. . .only who you vote for.

eg. Candidate A 33% of the total vote
Candidate B 33% of the total vote
Candidate C 34% of the total vote

Candidate C wins because the majority voted for Candidate C

Candidates A and B totaling 66% does NOT equal victory, even though it was against Candidate C.

Repeat: the tabulator does not have a mind of it's own, it merely collects the votes. It does NOT count who you vote against, only who you vote FOR.

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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:15 PM

19. Like I said, in 2016 the "tabulator" recorded that 75 million people voted FOR someone

other than Trump. Impeaching him is not "overturning the will of the people."

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:19 PM

10. 66 million for Clinton

and then 8 million for other candidates - Johnson, Stein, etc

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:22 PM

12. It's not about that! It's about the Constitution.

It's what he did AFTER he took his oath, then violated it.

This absurd argument is just a distraction.

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Reply #12)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:18 PM

20. His oath was forsworn by the time he finished it...


He was in violation of the Constitution the second he finished the oath. He was violating the emoluments clause as he took the oath...

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:29 PM

14. The Constitution took away the votes of the 66 million people who voted for Hillary

It happens...

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:43 PM

16. He's right, we can't take away the votes of 63 million people who voted for him..

...but he can certainly give them away, through is illegal actions. There are really two ways of looking at this. The state can't take away my driver's license. But I can certainly DUI/DWI and screw it away.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 04:57 PM

17. One would hope a significant number of them wish they could have

their votes back after nearly three years of this shit show.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:12 PM

18. Idiots. Andrew Johnson is still in the history books.

AJ might not like what was written though.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:23 PM

21. No they don't

Not even once

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:27 PM

22. Of course they do.

But their followers will buy the line without thinking. So they lie, because that keeps them in power.

They are not stupid (with a few obvious exceptions). They are evil.


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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:31 PM

23. You get pulled into logic. This isn't about logic. It's about theft.

In their minds, only THEIR side matters. That's the problem, first, foremost, comprehensive. They are not about democracy, equality, fairness, or divided government. They are about privilege, money, power, and dominance, about dividing the benefits of society amongst those able to pay cash for them: themselves. And using religion to distort the minds of blue collar people so they will gladly or unwittingly follow suit.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 05:53 PM

24. They show electoral maps where lots of open land voted Republican

where just tiny little blue dots of cities voted Democratic. Because the votes of urban liberals don't matter.

And I've seen a lot of deplorables online posting state maps where it's deeply unfair that the Democrat won their state-wide election with more votes from people when the Republican candidate got more land in the rural areas.

There are a lot of things deeply wrong with these people.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #24)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:48 PM

44. As I used to tell my dad, who liked to play the "look how red the map is," dirt don't vote

St Louis County is blue. Something like 17% of the people in Missouri live in St Louis county alone. If St Louis County were a state, it would have more people than 7 other states. But it is only 508 square miles, so it looks like a dot on the map.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:09 PM

27. "Yeah - but whut about the 5 million illegul votes?"

"I have a friend in California who says she saw lots of Mexicuns voting!"

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Response to sandensea (Reply #27)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:17 PM

31. My Ohio kin folk from 20 minutes north of me.

Proud to be stupid. This is what happened after Reagan got rid of the Fairness Doctrine idiots bathing in hate talk and Fox News.

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Response to Botany (Reply #31)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:18 PM

32. +1

They know what they're doing.

But then, it's so easy with certain folks.

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Response to sandensea (Reply #32)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:22 PM

33. Fox News just reinforces their own dumb fuck thinking

Did you know that Hillary Clinton had somebody murdered to hide Bill's cocaine ring?

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Response to Botany (Reply #33)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:39 PM

39. And the best part is...

that Barry Seal's Mena, AR, coke-running operation was sponsored by the CIA by Poppy Bush during the Reagan years to finance the Contras (the Iran deal, which got all the press, was just a small part of it all).

And the U.S. Attorney that helped cover up Seal's activities after his 1986 murder? Asa Hutchinson, now governor of Arkansas.

That's another specialty of right-wing politics: accusing your opponents of the very thing you've been doing.

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Response to Botany (Reply #31)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 08:29 AM

55. They're ripe for Jesus...

Most of them believe in the Golden Rule....He who has the gold, rules.

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Response to sandensea (Reply #27)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:25 PM

36. All we Mexicuns is illegal ...

They mad, cuz we no vote for Pendejo45

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:43 PM

41. ¡Asi es!

That, and their perceived skin color (Mexicans, of course, can be of any race).

They're absolutely obsessed with skin pigmentation.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #36)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 02:12 AM

52. Pendejo45 🤡

👍 🌝

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:10 PM

28. Right!

We the people got robbed!

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:14 PM

30. Never forget that 16 million voters were removed prior..

Last edited Fri Dec 13, 2019, 07:07 PM - Edit history (2)

.... to the 2016 election too.

Consider this data from Myrna Pérez of New York University’s Brennan Center for Justice: “Between 2014 and 2016, states removed almost 16 million voters from the rolls. That’s almost 4 million more than between 2006 and 2008.” And it should be obvious that that is a rate that outstrips the growth rate of total registered voters and the growth rate of total population.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/almost-16-million-voters-were-removed-from-the-rolls-we-should-be-alarmed/2019/05/15/f3de396a-7682-11e9-bd25-c989555e7766_story.html

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:22 PM

34. Here are the totals for the 2016 Presidential Election based on FEC numbers ...

Total number of votes: ----- 137,338,603
Pendejo45 votes: ------------ 62,984,825
-------------------------------------------
Total of non-Pendejo45 votes: 74,353,778

So 66 million didn't vote against him, 74.3 Million voted against him.

We keep forgetting that there were more than 2 candidates.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:24 PM

35. When the guy 63 million people voted for turns out to be a crook?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:42 PM

40. "It would be so unfair to deny Russia a voice in our elections"

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:43 PM

42. I believe

That this shit show of an administration could finally motivate unprecedented numbers of voters in 2020. I can name two offhand who have a case of "doesn't make any difference" voter complacency syndrome for decades, now mentioning they want to vote next year, if only to stop Donald Trump's ugly mug from appearing on every website ad, put an end to this sickening tilt-a-whirl we've been riding for 3 years now.
We have many debates and 11 months of sorting this out to find the sharpest most anti-Trump antidote of a candidate.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:47 PM

43. The fact that Gump got 63 million idiots to vote for him

does not give fuckhead the right to trample the constitution.

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Response to John Fante (Reply #43)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 01:21 AM

50. Indeed

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:48 PM

45. Agree

If anything, is taken away, they are taking away the vote of the electoral college and not the people.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 06:50 PM

46. Impeachment is not taking away their votes.

Last edited Fri Dec 13, 2019, 07:40 PM - Edit history (1)

It is addressing his behavior since they voted. A very big difference.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 07:06 PM

47. make that 73 million against him!

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Response to elder phd (Reply #47)

Fri Dec 13, 2019, 07:12 PM

48. aggiesal beat me to it

sorry i overlooked your comment!

no one in the media makes this point, tho!

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Response to elder phd (Reply #48)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 02:51 PM

56. No doubt if Hillary had won ...

RW noise machine and M$M would be yelling that 70M+ voted against Hillary.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 01:21 AM

49. K&R

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 02:07 AM

51. HRC was leading until she wasn't. Nefarious to lil ol' me.

And then there's comey stunt.....

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:03 AM

53. If they voted for Donnie, they also voted for pence

Removal would replace one person they voted for with another person they voted for.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:08 AM

54. Never mind the 66 million. The very premise is false. Impeachment does not take votes away.

Impeachment does not undo an election. That's simply a bullshit talking point, and we shouldn't give it any credence whatsoever.

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