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https://www.politicususa.com/2019/12/13/mitch-mcconnell-impeachment-trial-votes.htmlPosted on Fri, Dec 13th, 2019 by Jason Easley
Mitch McConnell Doesnt Have The Votes For His Sham Trump Impeachment Trial
Mitch McConnell promised Sean Hannity that he was going to work with Trump to hold a sham impeachment trial, but he doesnt have the votes yet to do it.
Here is McConnell laying out his plan for a sham trial:
Link to tweet
There is only one problem. McConnell doesnt have the 51 votes that he needs to implement his plan.
According to The Plum Line:
Of course, McConnell might not have 51 votes for such a process because a handful of vulnerable GOP senators might balk at voting for something so obviously rigged to protect Trump. Indeed, reporting indicates he doesnt have those votes yet which means he cant yet do what he promised Hannity hed do.
Mitch McConnell doesnt have the votes to blow off Trumps impeachment trial. There is still a chance that a few Republican Senators will come together and demand a full trial. If this happens, everything that Mitch McConnell promised relating to the structure of the trial will go up in smoke.
The sham trial is not a done deal yet, and if the American people push hard enough, it may never become a reality.
kentuck
(111,094 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Maybe this has something to do with the alleged behind-the-scenes work of Romney and Bill Weld. I don't want to get over-excited but this could be good news.
UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)do as they are told or the money plug gets pulled.
gab13by13
(21,337 posts)Trump will make them an offer they can't refuse. I assume they all have families?
mia
(8,360 posts)The fear and trembling of the GOP has turned the Senate majority into a body of cowards, incapable of standing up to Trump.
paleotn
(17,912 posts)Last edited Sat Dec 14, 2019, 11:53 AM - Edit history (1)
about losing their general than McConnell's foot wear. Coming out on the right side of this is probably Cory Gardner only hope in 2020. Same for Susan Collins, although I think she's doomed anyway. Utah doesn't particularly like IQ45, so Romney is free to vote his conscience. And stranger things have happened, of course.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)paleotn
(17,912 posts)greymattermom
(5,754 posts)He's in Utah, and there is money.
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)He will once again sell out America to protect Putin's puppet.
DENVERPOPS
(8,820 posts)Mitch is protecting his and the entire Republican Senate's ******* that took money from Russia, China, Saudi's, all funneled thru their favorite group the NRA and the little whorelot bimbo Putin sent over to sleep her way to the top of the NRA organization.......
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Its going to be a sham anyway. Its not like Republican senators are actually going to consider the evidence and vote on that. If Turtle actually rigs the trial this obviously though, that gives us massive extra ammunition to use in the election.
Red Mountain
(1,733 posts)Not the first time Mitch miscalculated.....
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DENVERPOPS
(8,820 posts)You know that scum that floats to the surface, or the sludge that forms at the bottom of the tank?????
paleotn
(17,912 posts)FM123
(10,053 posts)this is my favorite video to watch to give me a chuckle and a warm fuzzies....
MuseRider
(34,109 posts)certainly seems to always give my little heart a jump, even when really disgusted. The face is blurry but it never changes, his body does not change until he starts to walk away. Dejected, hanging on to his temper until he can get away. We really need to see more of that.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)Wondering what he'll promise them in order to bring them round.
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)Letting Trump manage it. WHAT are they saying? Cippoline legal strategy? Arm-twisting Congress by Trump for his own trial? After these are Senate Rules, laws won't apply.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)at Mar a Lago.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Senate Republicans abandoned/allowed themselves to be stripped of whatever integrity they might have had long ago, no moral fiber left. All that's left is self interest, both electoral and legal protections and glowing futures in the new America, and he can reassure them on those.
RainCaster
(10,872 posts)Nyet! McTurtle says.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)for us to call, write, contact our Reps and Senators voicing our opinion and to be in the streets...
#IMPEACHTRUMP
https://act.moveon.org/event/impeach-and-remove-attend/search/
best meme of the day....
paleotn
(17,912 posts)JudyM
(29,241 posts)Lock him up.
(6,928 posts)In the meantime, if the leader-in-cheat passes it, then tell the orange criminal we can play these childish games too... and use the threat of a vote on impeachment anytime we deem fit by tellin him to:
- fire Stephen Himmler and release the children (and everybody in his concentration camps)
- order Moscow Mitch to bring the 400+ bills we passed to the floor, pass them and sign 'em
- stop cutting food stamps
- tax the rich and stop kissing Putin's a**
- stop attacking healthcare (ACA)
- invite Volodymyr Zelensky to our White House and tell him you're sorry for the sh!t you gave him and the lives lost his country suffered for your ego
et al.
Tell him we can play these baby games too!!
Don wanna be impeached donnie boy? Do all that and more and we'll see...
P.S.: Then impeach him in October anyway (October Surprise)!
2naSalit
(86,604 posts)mopinko
(70,102 posts)sauce for the gander, you motherfuckers.
i think mittens and murkowski wont let them pass funky rules.
Arthur_Frain
(1,849 posts)she has no spine, no soul. She got her position through nepotism herself, so shes down with the don.
wnylib
(21,450 posts)because Hunter's testimony would expose the lies from Trump and his House supporters about the Bidens and Burisma.
He does not want other witnesses, either, who would expose the corruption of Trump and his allies in government.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)That would open a Pandora's Box with Jarvanka in the Dock. As well as anyone and everyone in the White House.
My guess is,Willard Romney had a one on one with his Cousin the Ex Ambassador to Russia over Thanksgiving Brunch.
wnylib
(21,450 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)all about Political Power and control of a segment of the Population for some sponsors Profit in the end.
Having lived in Utah and knowing many of the movers and shakers over that time frame. Romney is carrying water for his Image and Fame. His defeat was blamed on McConnell by the locals. And when he was anointed by Temple Square to replace Hatch,you could see something coming down the Pike.
wnylib
(21,450 posts)Trump, but I know there has to be a political angle and plan in it for Romney. I don't believe Romney has an altruistic cell in his body.
I also don"t believe Romney would be much better for the average American than Trump. He would be more intelligent and have a sense of decorum, but that is the best I can say for him. He is a corporate creature through and through, indifferent to ordinary, daily lives.
Does he plan to push out Trump and run in his place? Or is he planning for 2024? He would have Wall Street on his side. But is he fringe enough for the money people like Mercer and Koch?
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Reason being,Trump has stopped belittling him for about five months.
Romney is a right wing Rethug all the way. But,he knows the value of Self Appeal to save his Political career. He no doubt sees his Party going into Minority status and all of his Tax benefits being taken away.
wnylib
(21,450 posts)about his party going down and his fear for his tax exemptions.
But the religious right will not accept his faith. Dems will not accept him for other reasons. Whom will he appeal to?
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)middle of the road Anglo Saxon Funndies who are not members of the Crazies in his party. All be it a minority.
wnylib
(21,450 posts)oxymoron to me. Maybe he could pick up some independents. But not too msny, I hope. Good to see the R's going after each other.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)the up coming Rethug Food fight.
localroger
(3,626 posts)Madam Speaker would not have made such a promise unless she had the votes lined up. Mitch is obviously drunk on his own record and thinks he can do anything, and it would be quite amusing to see his pants pulled down in public because he took it a step too far. Senators are, by design according to our Founders, a bit more encouraged to think of their place in the history books. It only takes a few to decide that retirement is preferable to humiliation and Mitch's plans go the way of Thanos' victims.
2naSalit
(86,604 posts)MM is too cagey to just let it all hang out and spill his strategy, but that's what he's putting out in public for the orangeanus and co. to eat up and piss off everyone else.
This just speculation but it appears to me that several Senators don't really want this charade admin to continue, even if they like some of the corruption, and MM would know that. The wannabe dictator has pissed MM off several times now and I suspect that MM may be ready to off him and now's his chance all while leading -45 to think he's helping him. So MM goes on the tubes and makes this outrageous claim as per -45 and everybody goes nuts but lets everyone know what the doltard has planned.
Broadcasting this strategy lets everyone know and gives many the cover to revolt and not allow the acquittal. Let the circus begin, so much will be exposed that it could help us clean house like no other catalyst. Many will be going to court for their own misdeeds if we win this thing but we'll have to force them to make that choice. I wonder what MM really has in mind because I don't think he's really telling the truth. I hope his opposition in his party is larger than we think. Perhaps he's signaling to the Speaker about something.
Acquittal is not an option and we'll need to make that perfectly clear to everyone.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)Yes. Why would McConnell stare at the camera and make a bizarre statement that, if taken literally, could mark another Constitutional crisis, unless he's using the moment to give Senators the chance to challenge the indefensible.
Perhaps McConnell is setting up a reaction to his statements that allows a GOP internal rebellion. It's great movie scripting material that might get past the treatment phase. But OTOH, the entire Trumpy presidency has been stranger than fiction all along.
It's now more likely than ever that GOP Senators will feel less stifled when they are asked to react to McConnell's surrendering of the Senate to Trumpy AND Putin.
Two days ago I was writing about the nation's pending collapse in the aftermath of a Senate acquittal. While that's still possible, there may be other possibilities now emerging.
But another part of me imagines sipping espresso at an open cafe in Paris when in complete denial that German tanks are poised to roll into the City.
Generic Brad
(14,275 posts)That would require them to do the right thing. They do not have a track record of doing the right thing.
zaj
(3,433 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,653 posts)none. Until I see a Repub show an ounce of integrity, I don't believe this.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,785 posts)Has put Senators in an uncomfortable position Democrats will take advantage of and put Moscow Mitch in the spotlight.
Let us hope Amy McGrath is on the campaign trail exposing Moscow Mitch's true loyalties.....to Putin.
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)like violating his oath to defend the Constitution. What can the minority do in that instance? All remedies would be voted down, but they still carry weight with the public. I'm not familiar with the rules - censure? expulsion? Could they float a resolution to impeach Mitch? Or recommend it to the House?
smb
(3,471 posts)...he'd better have a tailor measure him for a lightning rod.
Actually, if pics of the event are released publicly, that would be a good manip idea....
Bayard
(22,069 posts)Expect more of the sickening caterwauling rethugs did at these other hearings. Times 10. There will be no evidence no real witnesses, just lots of bitching about Dems. They will try to subpoena Hunter Biden, possibly even Joe, in an attempt to hurt his campaign, Adam Schiff (which I've never understood that call), and the whistleblower.
And the crowd will go wild.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)They're as dumb as their God-emperor hahahhaa.
Schiff will eat them ALIVE
TeamPooka
(24,225 posts)hedda_foil
(16,374 posts)Both Republicans and Democrats. We need to severely rattle the Repubs, support the Dems, and make sure that every single Democratic Senator knows how serious we are about impeaching Putin's Pustule.
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ChoppinBroccoli
(3,784 posts)Normally the President of the Senate (the Vice President) votes to break the tie. In this case, the Vice President has a conflict of interest, as he has a vested interest in the outcome. So I would think Pence (or ANY Vice President, for that matter) would be required to recuse in an impeachment trial. So what happens if there's a tie?
Also, when doing the math for this proposition that McTurtle doesn't have the votes, did the writer take into account that Manchin will likely vote with the Republicans? Come on, we all know he will.
tritsofme
(17,377 posts)so he cannot vote.
I would say that Manchin is more likely to stick with Democrats on process votes, as opposed to substance.
C Moon
(12,213 posts)UTUSN
(70,691 posts)uponit7771
(90,336 posts)Why doesn't he just swagger has flat Russian paid for ass into the senate and call a vote for no witness's etc overruling CJ Roberts.
He wont ... he can't.