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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Democrats are giving the Republicans the chance to save their Party and maybe, their country.
In their hearts, they know it to be true. They knew from the beginning that he was bad news.
But, every time he got away with his lies and exaggerations, they surrendered just a little more. Until they were totally committed.
They knew from the time General Flynn lied to the FBI about Russia. They knew when he fired James Comey. They knew when their own Party named Robert Mueller as the Special Counsel. They had seen it all, just like everyone else. They saw all the transgressions.
However, they chose to ignore them.
This is their last chance. They can save their Party for the Conservatives, or they can try to keep the Trump Party? The added bonus is that they might save our country, also?
If they choose to now forget everything they have been shown, it is to the detriment of us all. They cannot escape the complicity.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)RDANGELO
(3,433 posts)wiggs
(7,812 posts)not to give up extreme, corrupt power for something as uncertain and unprofitable as democracy.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)...the reality that the Republican Party was rotten to the core long, long before Trump, which is why the rise of Trump was even possible. This reality is what Never Trumpers refuse to admit. And to them I say this:
Blood On Their Hands
Never Trumpers may like you to consume
The notion that Trump happened in a vacuum
But the groundwork had been laid going back to Nixon
The Southern Strategy and a racist depiction
Then came the Powell Memo and Moral Majority
Code words, a drug war, cultural uniformity
Welfare queens and the Willie Horton ad
Reagan, Bush and the anti-government fad
With Dubya, you see, people wanted to have a beer
SCOTUS gave anti-intellectualism the all clear
A terrorist attack then opened the door
To torture, spying and endless war
The nerve to elect and re-elect a Black man
They lost their shit when his suit was tan
He must not be Christian or an American
Well be damned if hes followed by a woman
And poof there was Trump, or so were told
Revisionist history is what were sold
Their party has long been ethically void
But prior to Trump they were happily employed
They continue to worship at the altar of Saint Ronnie
While making no connection to the rise of Saint Donnie
Their denial is strong, but conscience commands
They should acknowledge the blood on their hands
Garrett S
12/14/19
Karadeniz
(22,506 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)CanonRay
(14,101 posts)sandensea
(21,624 posts)They'd rather die, than allow anyone to take away their deity.
cstanleytech
(26,281 posts)cstanleytech
(26,281 posts)that became morally and ethically bankrupt and riff with corruption.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)I think the only reason that CNN and MSNBC come off as being pro Democratic, is simply because its impossible these days to defend anything Trump says or does, and if the Republican party fully supports him, to the point of lying and acting like baffoons, they have no choice.
But as soon as Trump finally leaves, and there is a "moderate" like a Bush or a Romney running. Even if they run another Trump lover like Pence, or Cruz, the MSM will fawn all over them. They will be so relieved to be able to go back to the false equivalency MO in order to keep their access, and get invited to the Washington cocktail party list.
The MSM will make sure that everything is smoothed over. There even could be elements in the Democratic party that also is keen to "move forward", in order to get back to the status quo. May even with the best intentions, in not wanting to create an even further division in both Washington and the country. And there are also corpoate executives in the MSM giants that also do not want market turmoil or uncertainty that is exacerbated by a contentious Washington.
cstanleytech
(26,281 posts)and needs to stop.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,128 posts)Question is, what form that catharsis will take. It won't go away. Retirements are a beginning. But if these intellectual cretins that call themselves GOP U.S. Representatives and Senators expect to dismiss their support of Trump in a sentence or two next election and the one after and the one after that, and expect all will be healed for them, they are stone cold nuts.
scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)everyone should
ffr
(22,669 posts)After today's vote, it's set in stone forever!
In their votes in support of tRump, a man, over the rule of law and against the U.S. Constitution, they will hand all future generations of democrats that hammer. Any time from this day forward, when a rePutican suggests upholding the Constitution, we law abiding Americans can immediately and repeatedly beat them over the head with their own actions. This is the day when rePuticans drew a line in the sand and turned their backs on the Constitution, voting in support of a man over that of our republic.
Remember that.
Destroy them with their own words, their own actions. They chose their path and we gave them every out possible to get on the right side of history. Until they stand up with democrats in support of our republic, they have no ground to stand on from this day forward.
Out of fucks to give.
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)They dont care. Havent you heard? They have God on their side.