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[kentuck]

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[rampartc]

1. a "speedy trial" can take years for many alleged criminals

i'd like to know how the federalist society judges can possibly interpret (or whatever they claim to do as "originalists&quot "immediate " to mean "in time for Hannity's next show."

[ramblin_dave]

2. Lawrence Tribe says

Link to tweet

But I would not be surprised if McConnell says otherwise.

[empedocles]

4. Seems like no big problem for the Speaker. 'cons need speed more than Dems.

[empedocles]

3. 'Immediately' ?

[C_U_L8R]

5. Immediately is relative.

Today, this month, this year, sometime before the election, whenever we're ready....

[Ms. Toad]

6. How about editing out the offensive word in the first line.

[kentuck]

9. Then I would have to remove the smiley face?

Because it was lost on you.

[Ms. Toad]

31. So it's OK if I refer to someone as a N***R, as long as I put a smiley face?

The point is that adding smiley faces, and mimicking bigots does not take the sting out of bigotry, merely because it is being uttered by a "friendly" source.

It wasn't lost on me - it's just that adding a smiley face doesn't make it an OK word to use.

[onenote]

7. You have "immediately" in quotes. What are you quoting?

What law directs the Senate to acquire the articles "immediately."

And the Supreme Court doesn't do advisory opinions.

[StarfishSaver]

18. No. It's not in the Constitution

[kentuck]

21. Thanks for the info.

[beachbumbob]

8. holding back AND getting subpeonas enforced needs to Pelosi #1 goal now

America needs to see trump admin officials on TV pleading the 5th amendment, THEN release the article to the Senate

[kentuck]

11. Sheriff Bob...

Sounds like a great idea!

[beachbumbob]

13. Pelosi and democrats have to GO FOR BLOOD ON THIS and the only way is

get the criminals infront of the House committees under oath. They need to enforce the subpoenas to do so.

I would love to see 3 or 4 months of this and then send the articles to the Senate in May, perhaps with additional articles of impeachment.

If we want to prevail in Nov 2020, we gotta take it to them like this

[kentuck]

14. Interesting.

I'm sure if they wait just a little bit, they will probably be able to add another Article to the impeachment charges?

[beachbumbob]

16. I think further investigations could reveal "conspiracy" and that could lead to a 3rd article

Need to extend and dig further. Pelosi has the power to do that, hopefully she has the insight as well

[democrank]

15. Yes. I saw a Rick Wilson video on the MSNBC site a couple of days ago.

He’s part of the new Lincoln Project. Not his exact words, but in essence he talked about how good Republicans have been on messaging in the past....basically how they’re willing to go for the throat but Democrats aren’t. As far as I’m concerned, these current circumstances require us to hit back as hard as we possibly can. Too much at stake to stand by and exercise comity.

[BuffaloJackalope]

12. Merrick Garland

[StarfishSaver]

17. The Constitution does not require the House to "immediately" refer Articles to the Senate

Senate rules require the Senate to take up impeachment immediately upon receiving notice that the House has appointed managers. If Pelosi doesn't notify the Senate that managers have been appointed, there's nothing for the Senate to do.

[kentuck]

20. Thanks for that clarification SS!

That makes sense.

[Sogo]

23. This is exactly the stance she took last night.

She can't appoint managers until she knows how the Senate is going to conduct it's trial.

Game, set, match....

[StarfishSaver]

24. She so clearly had this in her quiver all along and sprung it at just the right time

She's been quietly watching and listening to Mitch and his boys dug themselves in deeper and deeper.

And she didn't make a big deal of it. Just did it as an "Oh, by the way ..."

Badass

[MontanaMama]

26. My goodness...

I must say, I LOVE the visual of Nancy Pelosi’s “quiver”. Katniss Everdeen comes to mind.

[Sogo]

30. The Notorious Madame Speaker!!!

[Mr. Ected]

19. Whatever the constitutional challenge may be, I'm damned glad Nancy Pelosi is behind the wheel

McConnell is a dick and has exercised his dickliness for several years to the Dems' disadvantage, changing the rules and effecting rules that, if applied by Dems, would be roundly criticized as being excessive.

Now it's Nancy's turn to leverage the rules to her advantage.

I believe in Nancy.

[StarfishSaver]

22. She's working it, isn't she?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212799467

[Fullduplexxx]

25. She isn't required by law to do anything there's no timeline povided

She doesn't have to turn in over to the senate at all

[Cattledog]

27. Someone show me where it says "immediately" in the Constitution.

What law?

[Demsrule86]

28. That is not a law but senate rules...the house makes their own rule...and SCOTUS has no say.

[Demsrule86]

29. Also, it is a mistake to appeal to a right wing supreme court...Roberts is but one vote.