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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:02 PM Dec 2019

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Dec 2019 OP
Can't declare executive priviledge here, I suspect. Crazy. Especially at a bail hearing. NT SWBTATTReg Dec 2019 #1
Hope this leads to another article of impeachment. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2019 #2
Wait, WHAT?? EP for Parnas..seriously..the orange one already said he doesn't asiliveandbreathe Dec 2019 #3
Okay. So the dude that the MF says he doesn't know MontanaMama Dec 2019 #4
Does 'executive privilege' work on speeding tickets? iscooterliberally Dec 2019 #5
Isn't this from two months ago? ramblin_dave Dec 2019 #6
Yeah, it was a tangential discussion during the arraignment jberryhill Dec 2019 #17
Sure looks like it, dave - thanks for catching - he just had his second bail hearing on uhhh Leghorn21 Dec 2019 #19
Are there transcripts? Wonder why Maddow didn't report this? triron Dec 2019 #7
Maddow didn't report "this" because it isn't true jberryhill Dec 2019 #24
Only trump can assert executive privilege Gothmog Dec 2019 #8
Trump doesn't assert executive privilege, he asserts divine right of kings. Thomas Hurt Dec 2019 #9
The OP relies on the "Everything posted on Twitter is true" fallacy jberryhill Dec 2019 #13
YES. So glad you made this point. The Wielding Truth Dec 2019 #20
He can't assert the privilege. HOWEVER DonaldsRump Dec 2019 #10
Oh, FFS. That's now how it works. Aquaria Dec 2019 #11
Well, yeah, if you are going to believe everything posted to Twitter, sure jberryhill Dec 2019 #12
I hope the judge laughed so hard she spit coffee out her nose Hekate Dec 2019 #14
It's not true jberryhill Dec 2019 #18
Gotcha Hekate Dec 2019 #21
Thank you nt backtoblue Dec 2019 #27
Well....isn't that special! kentuck Dec 2019 #15
His claim will fail badly duforsure Dec 2019 #16
Trump-Giuliani-Parnas-Putin dewsgirl Dec 2019 #22
Trump-Giuliani-Parnas-Firtash-(Gazprom/Yanukovych)-Putin jberryhill Dec 2019 #23
Yes Firtash. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #26
OMFG...LMAO! TruckFump Dec 2019 #25
I expect courts and judges to hear more than a little of this bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #28
If what many suspect of Parnas - that he is a bagman for Russia - is Enoki33 Dec 2019 #29
Well, hell, the next time I get pulled over for a traffic stop, I'm claiming executive privilege. tclambert Dec 2019 #30
This Parnas stooge may turn out to be the "smocking gun" B Stieg Dec 2019 #31
trump said he doesn't know the guy, so where's the executive privilege. George II Dec 2019 #32
Hey Lev - just because you're an executive in your own company, that does NOT mean you can claim ET Awful Dec 2019 #33
every criminal in the country will be claiming executive privilege when they go to court nt yaesu Dec 2019 #34

SWBTATTReg

(26,252 posts)
1. Can't declare executive priviledge here, I suspect. Crazy. Especially at a bail hearing. NT
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:04 PM
Dec 2019

OAITW r.2.0

(32,103 posts)
2. Hope this leads to another article of impeachment.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:05 PM
Dec 2019

Can't wait for the WH/GOP response to this one....

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
3. Wait, WHAT?? EP for Parnas..seriously..the orange one already said he doesn't
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:05 PM
Dec 2019

know the guy....

MontanaMama

(24,719 posts)
4. Okay. So the dude that the MF says he doesn't know
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:07 PM
Dec 2019

is claiming executive privilege? WTAF? Paging Rudy to the white courtesy phone...

iscooterliberally

(3,157 posts)
5. Does 'executive privilege' work on speeding tickets?
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:08 PM
Dec 2019

Just asking for a friend.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
17. Yeah, it was a tangential discussion during the arraignment
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:22 PM
Dec 2019

No one asserted any such privilege.

The OP is simply not true.

https://apnews.com/4326d1ba6a8f4b70abf560cbe30eaa04


Assistant U.S. Attorney Rebekah Donaleski told a judge Wednesday that a dozen search warrants had produced a “voluminous” amount of evidence, including emails and other electronic communications. A lawyer for Parnas, Ed MacMahon, responded by suggesting that some of the communications could be protected by attorney-client and even executive privilege since his client was doing work for Giuliani while Giuliani was representing the president.

MacMahon didn’t claim to know whether the president planned to evoke the privilege, only that the possibility should be a concern as the government reviews the evidence. Donaleski told the judge that government was “attuned to those concerns.

Leghorn21

(14,085 posts)
19. Sure looks like it, dave - thanks for catching - he just had his second bail hearing on uhhh
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:29 PM
Dec 2019

Monday or Tuesday, there was certainly no mention of this

Meanwhile, fyi, his lawyer has resumed “teasing” about his client testifying...I dunno if this will ever happen, but people like moi would LOVE IT

Hey @HouseDemocrats, @HouseGOP, @SenateDems, &
@SenateGOP, call Lev Parnas to testify at a fair trial
regarding his policy efforts, and twice conveying the
#quidproquo in Ukraine, on behalf of @POTUS and @RudyGiuliani.
#LetLevSpeak





Also, new NYT article links Igor tightly with Roody (and not Lev)
No surprise, of course:

Kenneth P. Vogel
ALSO: IGOR FRUMAN has entered a joint defense agreement with RUDY GIULIANI, suggesting that Fruman has split with LEV PARNAS & appears to be siding with team TRUMP.

It also suggests that @RudyGiuliani believes the SDNY investigation into him is serious

standing by for more info, as usual!!
 

triron

(22,240 posts)
7. Are there transcripts? Wonder why Maddow didn't report this?
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:11 PM
Dec 2019
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
24. Maddow didn't report "this" because it isn't true
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:47 PM
Dec 2019

The actual story, on which the false information in the OP is based, was widely reported months ago at Parnas' arraignment hearing.

Gothmog

(179,553 posts)
8. Only trump can assert executive privilege
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:12 PM
Dec 2019

This idiot has no ability to assert this privilege

Thomas Hurt

(13,982 posts)
9. Trump doesn't assert executive privilege, he asserts divine right of kings.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:14 PM
Dec 2019
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
13. The OP relies on the "Everything posted on Twitter is true" fallacy
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:20 PM
Dec 2019

And everyone just accepts this piece of misinformation as fact.

The Wielding Truth

(11,433 posts)
20. YES. So glad you made this point.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:30 PM
Dec 2019

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
10. He can't assert the privilege. HOWEVER
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:15 PM
Dec 2019

This appears to tie him directly to Trump, who CAN assert executive privilege.

As mentioned in another post, I would love to hear the White House's comment on this. Am waiting for the media to pick this up.

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
11. Oh, FFS. That's now how it works.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:16 PM
Dec 2019

Can't wait for a judge to laugh in his face at that assertion.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
12. Well, yeah, if you are going to believe everything posted to Twitter, sure
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:20 PM
Dec 2019


But that's not what actually happened at that arraignment, back in October (btw).

Parnas did not 'declare', claim or otherwise assert executive privilege.

During a preliminary hearing, the US attorney had mentioned that there was a large volume of electronic evidence on which the government intended to rely. Parnas' lawyer, not having even seen any of the material, suggested that there would need to be some processing of that evidence because Parnas was working for Giuliani, and Giuliani was working for Trump.

It was a brief tangential discussion, but there has been no assertion of privilege of any kind by anyone in the Parnas case thus far.

The person whose Tweet you are posting is either misinformed or a liar.

https://apnews.com/4326d1ba6a8f4b70abf560cbe30eaa04

Assistant U.S. Attorney Rebekah Donaleski told a judge Wednesday that a dozen search warrants had produced a “voluminous” amount of evidence, including emails and other electronic communications. A lawyer for Parnas, Ed MacMahon, responded by suggesting that some of the communications could be protected by attorney-client and even executive privilege since his client was doing work for Giuliani while Giuliani was representing the president.

MacMahon didn’t claim to know whether the president planned to evoke the privilege, only that the possibility should be a concern as the government reviews the evidence. Donaleski told the judge that government was “attuned to those concerns.”

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
14. I hope the judge laughed so hard she spit coffee out her nose
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:21 PM
Dec 2019

That guy really really really should not be out on bail, or have an ankle monitor, or be under house arrest. He should be behind bars, awaiting trial. "Flight risk" doesn't even begin to describe it.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
18. It's not true
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:24 PM
Dec 2019

Someone posts something on Twitter.

Someone else believes it and posts it on DU.

Everyone falls for it...

From the arraignment, not bail, hearing back in October:

https://apnews.com/4326d1ba6a8f4b70abf560cbe30eaa04


Assistant U.S. Attorney Rebekah Donaleski told a judge Wednesday that a dozen search warrants had produced a “voluminous” amount of evidence, including emails and other electronic communications. A lawyer for Parnas, Ed MacMahon, responded by suggesting that some of the communications could be protected by attorney-client and even executive privilege since his client was doing work for Giuliani while Giuliani was representing the president.

MacMahon didn’t claim to know whether the president planned to evoke the privilege, only that the possibility should be a concern as the government reviews the evidence. Donaleski told the judge that government was “attuned to those concerns.”


It's just bullshit.

No one has claimed privilege of any kind in the evidence in the Parnas case.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
21. Gotcha
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:31 PM
Dec 2019

backtoblue

(13,182 posts)
27. Thank you nt
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:22 PM
Dec 2019

kentuck

(115,400 posts)
15. Well....isn't that special!
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:21 PM
Dec 2019

Old Lev knows a lot more than peope may have thought, it now appears?

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
16. His claim will fail badly
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:22 PM
Dec 2019

And just make it worse .Others have claimed this too and we're laughed at.

dewsgirl

(14,964 posts)
22. Trump-Giuliani-Parnas-Putin
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:33 PM
Dec 2019
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
23. Trump-Giuliani-Parnas-Firtash-(Gazprom/Yanukovych)-Putin
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:44 PM
Dec 2019

Slightly longer chain.

dewsgirl

(14,964 posts)
26. Yes Firtash.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:15 PM
Dec 2019

TruckFump

(5,838 posts)
25. OMFG...LMAO!
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 03:52 PM
Dec 2019

LOL, he's MF45's employee!!!!!!!!!!

That should sit well with Pelosi!!!!

bucolic_frolic

(55,059 posts)
28. I expect courts and judges to hear more than a little of this
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 04:36 PM
Dec 2019

MAGAts will think it's codified into law by precedent or is an extension of faith based consciousness. Trump religious exemption.

Enoki33

(1,605 posts)
29. If what many suspect of Parnas - that he is a bagman for Russia - is
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 05:01 PM
Dec 2019

correct, then he knows way too much for his good health. He seems to be a self important loose cannon, and that could scare the Kremlin into silencing him beyond the million dollars transferred to his wife.

tclambert

(11,191 posts)
30. Well, hell, the next time I get pulled over for a traffic stop, I'm claiming executive privilege.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 05:07 PM
Dec 2019

"Do you know how fast you were going, sir?"

"Executive privilege!"

"License, registration, and proof of insurance, please."

"Executive privilege!"

Skip ahead a little: "So what are you in prison for?"

"Executive privilege!"

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
31. This Parnas stooge may turn out to be the "smocking gun"
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 05:18 PM
Dec 2019

George II

(67,782 posts)
32. trump said he doesn't know the guy, so where's the executive privilege.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 05:26 PM
Dec 2019

ET Awful

(24,788 posts)
33. Hey Lev - just because you're an executive in your own company, that does NOT mean you can claim
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 05:35 PM
Dec 2019

executive privilege. That's not how it works .

yaesu

(9,299 posts)
34. every criminal in the country will be claiming executive privilege when they go to court nt
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 05:38 PM
Dec 2019
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