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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:28 PM Dec 2019

Trump "shellshocked" after impeachment, because advisers were telling him it wasn't going to happen

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/19/us/politics/trump-reacts-to-impeachment.html

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trumps-advisers-repeatedly-assured-him-for-weeks-nancy-pelosi-wouldnt-have-the-votes-for-impeachment-report/



On Thursday, The New York Times published an analysis of President Donald Trump’s political position in the wake of being impeached for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.

One of the key takeaways, according to reporters Peter Baker, Maggie Haberman, Jeremy Peters, and Elaina Plott, is that until the final hours, Trump didn’t really believe he was going to be impeached — because his advisers had been telling him as much.

“For Mr. Trump, the day after found him still a little shellshocked, according to people close to him,” stated the report. “Despite the clear momentum behind impeachment among Democrats in recent weeks, some of Mr. Trump’s advisers tried to convince him — and themselves — that Speaker Nancy Pelosi did not have the votes and might not even bring the articles of impeachment to the floor, despite warnings from the White House director of legislative affairs, Eric Ueland, that the votes were there.”

Per the Times, Trump’s campaign is doing its utmost to capitalize off of the impeachment, with his campaign manager Brad Parscale branding Democrats “traitors” in a fundraising blast and proclaiming, “Let’s make sure they know that we will NEVER FORGET.” But some Republicans are doubtful Trump can politically benefit.

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Trump "shellshocked" after impeachment, because advisers were telling him it wasn't going to happen (Original Post) Miles Archer Dec 2019 OP
"Let's make sure they know that we will never forget" gratuitous Dec 2019 #1
The truth hurts, huh? Even though DT only wants to hear the good stuff! n/t napi21 Dec 2019 #2
Oh please, Corgigal Dec 2019 #3
Or watch any other TV News source other than Fox. Golden Raisin Dec 2019 #18
Someone was really telling him that impeachment was unlikely? FBaggins Dec 2019 #4
Yes but... 2naSalit Dec 2019 #12
Poor baby. oasis Dec 2019 #5
This is what happens when you weed out everyone but the yes-men/sycophants. But will he learn? RockRaven Dec 2019 #6
He is that stupid . . . Iliyah Dec 2019 #7
THIS !!!! I talked to a mega nationalist today and they were shocked also Fox news was all quiet uponit7771 Dec 2019 #8
Nancy knew she had the votes when she gave the OK to begin the process. tanyev Dec 2019 #9
Nobody counts votes like Madame Speaker... Wounded Bear Dec 2019 #45
I'll bet the same people are telling him he won't be removed and will be Liberal In Texas Dec 2019 #10
these people have no remote idea of what reality is. they live in such a completely fucked up bubble NRaleighLiberal Dec 2019 #11
But according to a woman who worked for him for years, he's going to get revenge. Kablooie Dec 2019 #13
i saw that. mopinko Dec 2019 #21
My fear is that Trump will win again, and the government will eat itself. Sophia_Of_PlanetX Dec 2019 #28
If he loses he will have almost 3 months before the new president is sworn in. Kablooie Dec 2019 #34
He really is an idiot. C_U_L8R Dec 2019 #14
More PR baloney from Maggie Haberman. dalton99a Dec 2019 #15
Maggie is a NITWIT ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #17
Cue the only logical response..... Generic Brad Dec 2019 #16
They were probably trying to mollify him so they wouldn't have to deal with his tantrums. n/t Crunchy Frog Dec 2019 #19
You're probably right, but the pathetic part of their logic was not anticipating the aftermath Miles Archer Dec 2019 #22
He's ridiculous looking. 🙄 SammyWinstonJack Dec 2019 #20
His hair looks like what my Golden Retriever maxrandb Dec 2019 #25
HA! Nature Man Dec 2019 #31
Was he stunned like a deer in headlights stunned? Well then, ok--bc RestoreAmerica2020 Dec 2019 #23
his advisors tell him what he wants to hear Skittles Dec 2019 #24
Apparently Baghdad Bob works in the WH Hassler Dec 2019 #26
I really want to see him suffer. smirkymonkey Dec 2019 #27
This is what happens ... NanceGreggs Dec 2019 #29
THB, his advisors probably did what they had to do. Talitha Dec 2019 #30
I'm guessing they told him the big lie just to hold things together a little longer Grammy23 Dec 2019 #32
That's what he gets for surrounding himself with spineless sycophants. backscatter712 Dec 2019 #33
That's what happens when you only surround yourself with yes men. Poiuyt Dec 2019 #35
I don't know that I believe it BlueIdaho Dec 2019 #36
I even knew the votes were there JonLP24 Dec 2019 #37
Expect Trump to seek revenge moondust Dec 2019 #38
+1, agree. The average American will suffer. KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2019 #43
"And we've just won another magnificent victory on the Eastern Front, Mein Herr!" NBachers Dec 2019 #39
Most of the 'moderates' here said the same. nt RandiFan1290 Dec 2019 #40
His advisors Dorian Gray Dec 2019 #41
Staff knows how Trump is, they told him what he DeminPennswoods Dec 2019 #42
Is he crying in that photo? Catherine Vincent Dec 2019 #44

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. "Let's make sure they know that we will never forget"
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:30 PM
Dec 2019

Yeah, the day Trump was called out at long last for the damage he's done to the United States. I'll make it my personal mission to see that you don't forget, Parscale.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
3. Oh please,
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:32 PM
Dec 2019

that’s what he wanted to hear, so that’s what they told him. It’s his fault that he doesn’t read, nor understand how the congress works.

I’m good, I don’t need a tissue. thanks.

Golden Raisin

(4,608 posts)
18. Or watch any other TV News source other than Fox.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:58 PM
Dec 2019

And I hate to use the word "News" in conjunction with Fox.

FBaggins

(26,731 posts)
4. Someone was really telling him that impeachment was unlikely?
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:34 PM
Dec 2019

That ship clearly sailed weeks (if not months) ago.

2naSalit

(86,579 posts)
12. Yes but...
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:43 PM
Dec 2019

inside his bubble with all those yespeople and pacifiers pampering his ego on order, that's all he would hear until it happened. I hope it's a truly rude and continually worsening awakening for him and all his enablers and cohorts.

tanyev

(42,552 posts)
9. Nancy knew she had the votes when she gave the OK to begin the process.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:37 PM
Dec 2019

They might want to try pulling their heads out of the Fox News/OAN bubble from time to time.

Liberal In Texas

(13,548 posts)
10. I'll bet the same people are telling him he won't be removed and will be
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:37 PM
Dec 2019

exonerated, not just that there won't be enough votes to remove.


Kablooie

(18,632 posts)
13. But according to a woman who worked for him for years, he's going to get revenge.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:45 PM
Dec 2019

She expects him to get through this and then exact revenge on many, many people.

I wouldn't be surprised if that became his primary focus in the coming year.
I sure hope he tries something patently illegal and gets caught.

mopinko

(70,090 posts)
21. i saw that.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:00 AM
Dec 2019

barbara res is a bit of a legend among old timers tradeswomen. seeing her on the news has tickled me.
she knows him well. i believe she is correct.

28. My fear is that Trump will win again, and the government will eat itself.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:40 AM
Dec 2019

If Trump wins in 2020, he will make his second term all about exacting revenge on those he believes slighted him. The GOP seems enthralled by Trump's allure and power. If we think Trump is vindictive now, a second term Trump would grind the government to a halt if it meant sweet revenge and tears.

Imo, Trump will try to leave miles of metaphorical scorched earth in his wake. If he can't have his way, he will make life very miserable for his opponents to the best of his ability. His administration and followers want their pound of flesh. The next year (hopefully not 5) will be a cavalcade of petty, childish antics, further dividing and weakening our nation.

Trump should have never been President. He never had the temperament for it. It was always about his ego, and nothing more. His mental state seems to be deteriorating. The worst part now, in my mind, is the uncertainty.

Kablooie

(18,632 posts)
34. If he loses he will have almost 3 months before the new president is sworn in.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 01:46 AM
Dec 2019

That will be 3 months to destroy everything he can in government before he leaves office.
And being president with a horde of minions willing to do anything he says we could be in big trouble then.

So we're screwed whether he wins or loses.

C_U_L8R

(45,001 posts)
14. He really is an idiot.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:48 PM
Dec 2019

A few more bonehead moves and he'll be out of office for good.

And PS... his own children can't even tell him the truth. That's fucking pathetic.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
22. You're probably right, but the pathetic part of their logic was not anticipating the aftermath
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:07 AM
Dec 2019

They HAD to know that if they coddled him, once reality hit, he'd be unmanageable.

Of course, maybe that was part of the plan. Maybe after the day in and day out abuse, they WANTED to witness that.

maxrandb

(15,324 posts)
25. His hair looks like what my Golden Retriever
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:31 AM
Dec 2019

did with his tongue to try to cover up when his ass was shaved to drain an infected anal duct.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
23. Was he stunned like a deer in headlights stunned? Well then, ok--bc
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:11 AM
Dec 2019

..for three years he's been doing same to all of us with his disgusting hate propganda, name calling; racist bigoted mysogynistic rhetoric and policies that hurt all Americans.

[Note: see link for pics of deer in headlights; sorry unable copy and paste images on DU. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, will keep trying]

https://images.app.goo.gl/uJRXarcpYJ8Fj4r88

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
27. I really want to see him suffer.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:36 AM
Dec 2019

I want to know that he is miserable and in pain. I want to see him crumble in public. He is a very weak person and all we need to do is just keep pushing and pushing and he will eventually go over the edge. I think he is almost at the precipice. Just a few more blows will do him in.

Talitha

(6,584 posts)
30. THB, his advisors probably did what they had to do.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:54 AM
Dec 2019

I sure as hell wouldn't want to be the one to tell cheato he was going to be impeached. Who knows, he might keep a gun hidden somewhere. He already claimed he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and get away with it, so it's logical that he'd do it at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue without a second thought. What a freak!

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
32. I'm guessing they told him the big lie just to hold things together a little longer
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 01:06 AM
Dec 2019

and stop Or delay things from imploding. As for what to do after he was impeached....guess they figured they’d cross that bridge when they came to it. Pretty much the way things have been run in tRump’s White House since day one.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
33. That's what he gets for surrounding himself with spineless sycophants.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 01:10 AM
Dec 2019

Now that his bubble's been popped, it is entertaining to see him going apeshit.

moondust

(19,979 posts)
38. Expect Trump to seek revenge
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 02:37 AM
Dec 2019

for impeachment

Rachel had Barbara Res on Thursday. Former executive vice president at the Trump Organization. She says:

"He will exact revenge on a lot of people. A lot of people."

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/expect-trump-to-seek-revenge-for-impeachment-fmr-trump-employee-75408453975

Maybe Dumpy's reputation for revenge is what some Republican cowards are afraid of if they don't stay on their knees.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
43. +1, agree. The average American will suffer.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 08:05 AM
Dec 2019

I expect a flood of very mean executive orders in the coming months and his rallies will all be tantrums.

Also expect a flood of new mud-throwing at every House Democratic rep on right-wing talk radio and Faux News.

Our Reps will need to be watchful and try to counter this administration's evil moves......

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