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kentuck

(111,052 posts)
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:44 PM Dec 2019

The Lost Children of Christianity

The Bible warns of false prophets. It teaches that by your works you shall be known. Also, it teaches that a bad tree cannot bring forth good fruit.

Whether a Christian or not, we should look at matters in a rational and factual way. Some may argue that religion is not rational or factual but that cannot excuse believers in not following the teaching of their religion.

There are those that follow Mr Trump because he promises them action on political issues they deeply care about, such as abortion and church vs state issues. Because of their intense political viewpoints, they are willing to overlook the most egregious of trespasses, including the "seven deadly sins". They have shown themselves to be willing to tolerate the most evil and hurtful behaviors as a political trade-off.

They may call themselves Christians, but their words and deeds do not reflect the teachings of their Bible. It is not enough to say that we are all sinners and then turn our eyes the other way.

One good deed does not balance out an evil deed. Christians should strive to be perfect all the time. It is not enough to be good half the time and to tolerate evil the rest of the time.

These so-called Christians are lost children. They have chosen to follow evil people that deceive them away from the teachings of Christ.

Just my opinion.

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The Lost Children of Christianity (Original Post) kentuck Dec 2019 OP
I like Red Letter Christians. safeinOhio Dec 2019 #1
If they aren't Christians, what are they, exactly? Mariana Dec 2019 #2
They are followers of a false prophet kentuck Dec 2019 #3
So, they believe they are Christians, but they're wrong. Mariana Dec 2019 #4
Their actions belie their words. kentuck Dec 2019 #6
Secretly followers of another religion, then. Mariana Dec 2019 #8
Most religions have a Golden Rule. kentuck Dec 2019 #9
Are they atheists? nt. Mariana Dec 2019 #10
No, I do not believe they are atheists. kentuck Dec 2019 #11
They follow a heresy Hekate Dec 2019 #5
I hope President Macron is who I think he is. roamer65 Dec 2019 #7
Christian Definition StarryNite Dec 2019 #12
And so I call them. Iggo Dec 2019 #13
Yup, I can visualise tRump as the Golden Calf. alwaysinasnit Dec 2019 #14
Religion has, for 5,000 years, been used to bind a state together muriel_volestrangler Dec 2019 #15

safeinOhio

(32,641 posts)
1. I like Red Letter Christians.
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:08 PM
Dec 2019

Your Red Letter Bible will have all the words of Jesus in red letters. Pretty interesting to just read those words. Nothing about gay marriage or abortion. A lot about divorce, forgiveness and prayer in public.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
2. If they aren't Christians, what are they, exactly?
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:22 PM
Dec 2019

Are they atheists? Are they secretly followers of some other religion? What are they?

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
4. So, they believe they are Christians, but they're wrong.
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:29 PM
Dec 2019

Do I understand you correctly? Their faith is genuine, but they've been misled?

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
6. Their actions belie their words.
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:33 PM
Dec 2019

We all have free will. They have chosen to be misled. Primarily, it is because of their intense political beliefs.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
8. Secretly followers of another religion, then.
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 02:39 PM
Dec 2019

If they've chosen to be misled, then it follows that they are aware that they are non-Christians, and that they're only pretending to be Christian.

kentuck

(111,052 posts)
11. No, I do not believe they are atheists.
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 03:09 PM
Dec 2019

They are what once was called "backsliders". They don't practice what they believe.

StarryNite

(9,435 posts)
12. Christian Definition
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 03:10 PM
Dec 2019

Definition of Christian (Entry 1 of 2)
1a: one who professes belief in the teachings of Jesus Christ
b(1): DISCIPLE sense 2
(2): a member of one of the Churches of Christ separating from the Disciples of Christ in 1906
(3): a member of the Christian denomination having part in the union of the United Church of Christ concluded in 1961

Profess | Definition of Profess by Merriam-Webster
https://www.merriam-webster.com › dictionary › profess
1 : to receive formally into a religious community following a novitiate by acceptance of the required vows.
2a : to declare or admit openly or freely : affirm.
b : to declare in words or appearances only : pretend, claim.
3 : to confess one's faith in or allegiance to.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,265 posts)
15. Religion has, for 5,000 years, been used to bind a state together
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 03:41 PM
Dec 2019

and people brought up in a state's majority religion should be primarily seen as being expected to support the status quo of that state. It's possible that they may also think about the message in that religion too carefully, and they might then find it doesn't, after all, match the reality of the state. But in practice, they were part of the religion, before they'd studied it - and an awful lot of people never do.

So those American evangelical Christians who support Trump (about 80% of them) are still Christians; but they are supporting one of the established forms of nationalism first, the way that majority religions around the world can end up nationalist. And that means they're enthusiastic bigots. And still Christians. Many other American Christians also support the non-bigoted, but still patriotic version of the status quo. And they vote Democratic, reliably.

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